does this stuff work? - The Firearms Forum

chris_tessmer · 03-12-2009, 02:05 AM

http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/produ...1227363a.shtml

i have a couple scratches on my gun barrel and i was wondering if this gun blueing kit really restores the blueing. let me know if u've used it or similar products and what u think of it. thanks!

1shot1k · 03-12-2009, 02:21 AM

Hello , and yes Iv'e used this and the "birchwood" product line with OK success for small areas or "complete" bluing.

But cold blue is not as good as heated bluing or commercial techniques.

If you can get the "Birchwood three" bottle kit , use that. Down the road at Cheaper thn dirt , is where I get mine , or Cabellas may still have it.

Main thing that has helped me, use the Cleaner/Degreaser between applications of the Bluing.

Obtain a good grade 000 wool , theres a pad 000 steel wool in Home Depot paint area works good for me.
After cleaning , apply bluing , wait per label- 1-2 minutes , lightly rinse with water , then use 000 to very lightly blend bluing to existing...will or may take several applications..but dont try to do a large area.

Remembered edit -- be sure when you are happy with results ,, you lightly coat area with fine gun oil and leave overnight - this will finalize CURE of the substance and make coloring last longer---

Others may have better advice, or also try other technical forum within TFF. When I have stripped a gun , Ive always wanted to try a "black bluing" product Ive read on , but cant find locally. I have also heard of people having results by heating part in cheap counter oven to specific temps and having good results with home "parkerizing" kits ...if you want gray or black....

Keep checking...you will find other advice.

Regards,

chris_tessmer · 03-12-2009, 02:46 AM

thanks for the detailed reply. i didnt know these products existed til just a few minutes before i posted this thread and i just wanted to see if anyone has had any luck with it before i started researching it more. hmmm, gray seems very interesting...im definetly gonna look into that. thanks again!

armedandsafe · 03-12-2009, 01:58 PM

Blue Wonder works quite well.

http://www.bluewonder.us/

I'm not associated in any way with this company.

Pops

chris_tessmer · 03-12-2009, 11:56 PM

ok, gonna go with the birchwood casey products. i have 3 guns to refinish. im gonna do one brown, one black and one blue. ill post before and after pics and let everyone know how it goes. thanks for the help.

Monkey Hollow · 03-13-2009, 01:07 AM

One thing that I was taught was to always wear white cotton gloves when handling the metal.You don't want any oils from your skin to affect the metal. This will make a big difference in how your finish turns out. Also, it helps greatly if you heat your parts in an oven and apply the bluing or brown to warm metal.

carver · 03-13-2009, 10:51 AM

Do it like 1shot1k says. I use denatured alcohol to clean surface to be reblued, and I use 0000 steel wool. Not that it matters. Apply blue, wait at least one minute, rinse with water, polish with steel wool. Repeated applications will result in a darker blue. Cure with gun oil over night. And like he said, if you want a quality re-blue, take your gun to a gunsmith who is experieced in refinishing guns.

chris_tessmer · 03-13-2009, 03:02 PM

monkey_hollow - i was taught that in metal shop in high school but forgot all about it. thanks for the refresher

carver - yup, sounds like 1shot knows what he's talkin about so im gonna do it like he says. thanks for the tips. and i would take it to a gunshop but i enjoy doing things myself. before i buy something i always check to see if i can build it cheaper lol.

Bill DeShivs · 03-13-2009, 08:25 PM

If you are planning on refinishing a complete gun-don't. Cold blues are for touch-ups only, regardless what the container says. They don't hold up like professional bluing, they stink, and the "bluing" is usually a copper sulphate plating. Cold blued guns can be spotted from across the room.

Mr. Nameless · 03-13-2009, 09:58 PM

it works but its not the best out there for the price

03-12-2009, 02:05 AM	#1
chris_tessmer Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 37	does this stuff work? http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/produ...1227363a.shtml i have a couple scratches on my gun barrel and i was wondering if this gun blueing kit really restores the blueing. let me know if u've used it or similar products and what u think of it. thanks! -->

03-12-2009, 02:21 AM	#2
1shot1k Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 904	Re: does this stuff work? Hello , and yes Iv'e used this and the "birchwood" product line with OK success for small areas or "complete" bluing. But cold blue is not as good as heated bluing or commercial techniques. If you can get the "Birchwood three" bottle kit , use that. Down the road at Cheaper thn dirt , is where I get mine , or Cabellas may still have it. Main thing that has helped me, use the Cleaner/Degreaser between applications of the Bluing. Obtain a good grade 000 wool , theres a pad 000 steel wool in Home Depot paint area works good for me. After cleaning , apply bluing , wait per label- 1-2 minutes , lightly rinse with water , then use 000 to very lightly blend bluing to existing...will or may take several applications..but dont try to do a large area. Remembered edit -- be sure when you are happy with results ,, you lightly coat area with fine gun oil and leave overnight - this will finalize CURE of the substance and make coloring last longer--- Others may have better advice, or also try other technical forum within TFF. When I have stripped a gun , Ive always wanted to try a "black bluing" product Ive read on , but cant find locally. I have also heard of people having results by heating part in cheap counter oven to specific temps and having good results with home "parkerizing" kits ...if you want gray or black.... Keep checking...you will find other advice. Regards, Last edited by 1shot1k; 03-12-2009 at 02:24 AM..

03-12-2009, 02:46 AM	#3
chris_tessmer Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 37	Re: does this stuff work? thanks for the detailed reply. i didnt know these products existed til just a few minutes before i posted this thread and i just wanted to see if anyone has had any luck with it before i started researching it more. hmmm, gray seems very interesting...im definetly gonna look into that. thanks again!

03-12-2009, 01:58 PM	#4
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: does this stuff work? Blue Wonder works quite well. http://www.bluewonder.us/ I'm not associated in any way with this company. Pops

03-12-2009, 11:56 PM	#5
chris_tessmer Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 37	Re: does this stuff work? ok, gonna go with the birchwood casey products. i have 3 guns to refinish. im gonna do one brown, one black and one blue. ill post before and after pics and let everyone know how it goes. thanks for the help.

03-13-2009, 01:07 AM	#6
Monkey Hollow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 65	Re: does this stuff work? One thing that I was taught was to always wear white cotton gloves when handling the metal.You don't want any oils from your skin to affect the metal. This will make a big difference in how your finish turns out. Also, it helps greatly if you heat your parts in an oven and apply the bluing or brown to warm metal.

03-13-2009, 10:51 AM	#7
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,542	Re: does this stuff work? Do it like 1shot1k says. I use denatured alcohol to clean surface to be reblued, and I use 0000 steel wool. Not that it matters. Apply blue, wait at least one minute, rinse with water, polish with steel wool. Repeated applications will result in a darker blue. Cure with gun oil over night. And like he said, if you want a quality re-blue, take your gun to a gunsmith who is experieced in refinishing guns. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-13-2009, 03:02 PM	#8
chris_tessmer Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 37	Re: does this stuff work? monkey_hollow - i was taught that in metal shop in high school but forgot all about it. thanks for the refresher carver - yup, sounds like 1shot knows what he's talkin about so im gonna do it like he says. thanks for the tips. and i would take it to a gunshop but i enjoy doing things myself. before i buy something i always check to see if i can build it cheaper lol.

03-13-2009, 08:25 PM	#9
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,478	Re: does this stuff work? If you are planning on refinishing a complete gun-don't. Cold blues are for touch-ups only, regardless what the container says. They don't hold up like professional bluing, they stink, and the "bluing" is usually a copper sulphate plating. Cold blued guns can be spotted from across the room. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

03-13-2009, 09:58 PM	#10
Mr. Nameless Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coast of N.C. Posts: 1,264	Re: does this stuff work? it works but its not the best out there for the price __________________ Signed ~BMP Two classifications of terrorist dead and not dead enough