Mosin-Nagant - The Firearms Forum

Bioman · 08-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Purchased my first recently. Appeared to be unfired. I am at work and can’t recall where it was made or model, but I think it said Connecticut on it (as in USA), does that make any sense? Took out to range, started at 100 yards and could not place a single shot on target. Had someone spot and they noticed it was shooting around 2 foot high and around 8” to the left with the elevation at its lowest setting. This was on a calm day. Front site pin looks to be a bit bent. Tried it at 50 yards just to be sure it was not operator error and I had to aim around a foot and a half low to hit the target. Are there any adjustments I can do or is this one just a dog?

pinecone70 · 08-17-2009, 01:46 PM

My M-44 is like that, I had to put a low-relief scope on it. It's a really great gun now that it's sighted in, and it was dirt cheap. I also have a 91/30, but it's much more accurate and has no front sight problem like the other one.

Maineman · 08-17-2009, 08:51 PM

Bioman don't give up on your MN both remington and westinghouse made them in the USA for the czar before he was overthrown. also they were sighted in for 300 meters. check out this site www,7.62x54.net you could have a real collectable rifle there. good luck maineman

momo · 08-18-2009, 09:06 AM

Sound like you have a MN 91 that was made by Remington or Westinghouse. If it was sighted in for 300 meters, as Maineman said, that would probably explain the height discrepency. You might not want to do anything to it because these are highly collectable rifles, especially if it was unfired when you got it. How do the bore and stock look? Could you post some pictures?

Bioman · 08-18-2009, 11:58 AM

Bore is clean and sharp. I'll try and post pcitures tonight. Thanks for all of the insights.

Popgunner · 09-16-2009, 03:16 PM

Remember that if it has a bayonet like the M-44 that originally sighting in was done with the bayonet extended. This affects point of impact.

petesusn · 09-21-2009, 11:33 AM

My M-44 shoots much more accurately with the bayonet extended. I think that it may have been produced with this in mind.

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TRAP55 · 09-25-2009, 07:41 PM

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but I think it said Connecticut on it

Probably the importers stamp.
Windage is adjusted drifting the front sight.
To lower the point of impact, you have to raise the front sight. Auto parts store, get some automotive wiring heat shrink tubing, (your choice of colors). Slip a piece over the pin post, apply enough heat to make it hang on and trim to length. If you cut too much off, it's cheap.

Post some pics of the markings!

budman46 · 11-05-2009, 05:32 AM

i like trap55's solution...i belong to these forums because you guys are a wealth of info.

my 44's shoot 5-6"patterns at 50 yds with the bayonet folded, but 1 1/2" groups with it deployed or removed and the point of impact shifted to the right quite a bit as i recall.

budman

budman

zkovach · 12-03-2009, 12:56 PM

The Connecticut print is the importers "electropencil" stamp.

phx gun owner · 12-05-2009, 11:45 AM

I bought my M-44 dated 1945 . Was never fired before i got it . All i did was clean it once and shot it . It works flawless every shot . Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you dont .

The good thing about those old russian rifles is you can do some work to them and make them work great if you need to . Plus they are so cheap . Cant beat the price .

08-17-2009, 12:49 PM	#1
Bioman Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31	Mosin-Nagant Purchased my first recently. Appeared to be unfired. I am at work and can’t recall where it was made or model, but I think it said Connecticut on it (as in USA), does that make any sense? Took out to range, started at 100 yards and could not place a single shot on target. Had someone spot and they noticed it was shooting around 2 foot high and around 8” to the left with the elevation at its lowest setting. This was on a calm day. Front site pin looks to be a bit bent. Tried it at 50 yards just to be sure it was not operator error and I had to aim around a foot and a half low to hit the target. Are there any adjustments I can do or is this one just a dog? -->

08-17-2009, 01:46 PM	#2
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Mosin-Nagant My M-44 is like that, I had to put a low-relief scope on it. It's a really great gun now that it's sighted in, and it was dirt cheap. I also have a 91/30, but it's much more accurate and has no front sight problem like the other one. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

08-17-2009, 08:51 PM	#3
Maineman Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Monticello Maine 04760 Posts: 3	Re: Mosin-Nagant Bioman don't give up on your MN both remington and westinghouse made them in the USA for the czar before he was overthrown. also they were sighted in for 300 meters. check out this site www,7.62x54.net you could have a real collectable rifle there. good luck maineman

08-18-2009, 09:06 AM	#4
momo Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 300	Re: Mosin-Nagant Sound like you have a MN 91 that was made by Remington or Westinghouse. If it was sighted in for 300 meters, as Maineman said, that would probably explain the height discrepency. You might not want to do anything to it because these are highly collectable rifles, especially if it was unfired when you got it. How do the bore and stock look? Could you post some pictures?

08-18-2009, 11:58 AM	#5
Bioman Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31	Re: Mosin-Nagant Bore is clean and sharp. I'll try and post pcitures tonight. Thanks for all of the insights.

09-16-2009, 03:16 PM	#6
Popgunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: Mosin-Nagant Remember that if it has a bayonet like the M-44 that originally sighting in was done with the bayonet extended. This affects point of impact.

09-21-2009, 11:33 AM	#7
petesusn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Ca. Posts: 614	Re: Mosin-Nagant My M-44 shoots much more accurately with the bayonet extended. I think that it may have been produced with this in mind. “You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.” Al Capone

11-05-2009, 05:32 AM	#9
budman46 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 29	Re: Mosin-Nagant i like trap55's solution...i belong to these forums because you guys are a wealth of info. my 44's shoot 5-6"patterns at 50 yds with the bayonet folded, but 1 1/2" groups with it deployed or removed and the point of impact shifted to the right quite a bit as i recall. budman budman

12-03-2009, 12:56 PM	#10
zkovach Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,005	Re: Mosin-Nagant The Connecticut print is the importers "electropencil" stamp.

12-05-2009, 11:45 AM	#11
phx gun owner Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix , Arizona Posts: 29	Re: Mosin-Nagant I bought my M-44 dated 1945 . Was never fired before i got it . All i did was clean it once and shot it . It works flawless every shot . Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you dont . The good thing about those old russian rifles is you can do some work to them and make them work great if you need to . Plus they are so cheap . Cant beat the price . __________________ Those who fight monsters must be careful not to become a monster , And when you look into an abyss the abyss also looks into you .