Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine - The Firearms Forum

savage170 · 06-22-2011, 02:02 PM

http://www.ruger.com/index.html I like it it would make a good truck gun

JLA · 06-22-2011, 02:50 PM

I agree. As would the gunsite scout rifle.. Excellent brush guns..

permafrost · 06-22-2011, 04:28 PM

Just saw it today. Looks like a really nice addition! (Bigtime 357 fan, however they come).

Wonder what the velocity and energy increase would be in that 18.5" barrel over, say, a 6-8" barrel revolver?

savage170 · 06-22-2011, 04:59 PM

Hornady say's they're leverevolution ones go up to 1850 from 18" barrell

JLA · 06-22-2011, 05:12 PM

Sounds about right. A 158 gr XTP runs about 1400 from a 6 inch barrel. the same load should be good for about 1750 from an 18 inch barrel..

Alpo · 06-22-2011, 05:27 PM

Don't really see a reason for it, myself. 357 is great in a rifle-length barrel, but anything you can do in a five-round bolt gun, you can do twice as good in a 10-round lever gun.

Now, that same rifle, in 7.62 x 39 would probably be pretty neat.

Did you notice the auction, at the bottom of the page. Gonna auction off some "rare items". That means they found some stuff in the back room, and decided to make some money off it.

Brand New Speed Six. Well, that'd be kinda cool to have. Rather have a stainless one than a blue one, but it would be cool. "No Reserve". Starting price of 300 sounds like it has a reserve of 300. Then the neat little comment, at the end. "Buyer is responsible for excise tax". So if you get it for 350 bucks, it's actually $388.50.

Oh well. Woulda been cool.

Artemus · 06-22-2011, 05:51 PM

I totally agree with Alpo.If Ruger made it in a lever action or a pump I would def. want one.

Jim Hauff · 06-22-2011, 08:44 PM

IMI already made it in a pump.
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JLA · 06-22-2011, 08:55 PM

That reciever is very Remingtonish..

Alpo · 06-22-2011, 10:07 PM

Well, yeah they did. But, #1, I've heard they are not that reliable - they can be kinda finicky. And, #2, they don't make 'em anymore.

flintlock · 06-23-2011, 07:14 AM

I'd like one in .41 magnum, but I guess they won't make just one!

Jim Hauff · 06-23-2011, 11:32 AM

Alpo,
Haven't shot mine all that much - maybe around 500 rounds of .38Spl and .357mag - never had a problem and the accuracy at 50 yards with the heavy .38s is excellent. No, they don't make them anymore - must have been a low sales thing. However, the .357mag and the .44 mag versions are now selling for big bucks on the used market.
Yep, the receiver is very Remingtonish - right down to the action release lever and cross bolt safety.
A nice feature (?) if you want to haul it around in a bag - it takes down like a Winchester Model 62.

Albtraum · 06-23-2011, 12:35 PM

A bolt? ehh... I'd prefer an old lever action in .38spl/.357mag

Alpo · 06-23-2011, 02:33 PM

Just relating rumors I've heard. Be a shame, if it's true. I'd like to have one. I'm a pump-gun fan, and medium-powered centerfire pump, that actually worked every time, would be just so neat to have.

Jim Hauff · 06-23-2011, 04:17 PM

Rumors are rumors, facts are facts.
My original point, which I didn't make very well - the pump .357 Mag has been tried, at least once with the Action Arms/IMI Timberwolf - didn't seem to catch on very well. If I'm not mistaken there are a couple recent iterations of the Colt "LIGHTNING" pump rifle out there in that chambering also - those being very expensive - don't seem to be hot sellers. There's a ton of different lever actions in .357 Mag.
Bolt action is a NEW idea - kind of like the Spanish Destroyer concept. I, personally (but then what the hell do I know?), can't see a real purpose for it - other than for fairly close small game or small deer hunting.

Boris · 06-23-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by savage170

Hornady say's they're leverevolution ones go up to 1850 from 18" barrell

I used to have a NEF singleshot 357 magnum. The leade in the chamber was sooooo long I could load Hornady 200 grain .358" round nose softpoints in the crimping groove. The round looked odd but it was a deer thumper out to 100 yards.

Nosler had a 115 grain .357" hollowpoint back in them days and I flung them things so fast they would exlode woodchucks like they got smoked by a 220 swift. The 357 magnum is a screamer from a rifle. Only thing I do not like about that is I would prefer a wood stock and a satin or matte blue finish.

Mecanik · 06-27-2011, 12:57 PM

WOW!! I can see a .30-357 in the future!

Little Rooster · 10-24-2011, 09:22 AM

I think it's a little over priced at $749 msrp

I'll stick to my Marlin lever gun

gdmoody · 10-24-2011, 12:12 PM

I had one of the Model 77's in .44 Mag a while back. It was an excellent rifle and it is one of those that I wonder why I traded it.

06-22-2011, 04:28 PM	#3
permafrost Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma, USA Contributor Posts: 1,771	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Just saw it today. Looks like a really nice addition! (Bigtime 357 fan, however they come). Wonder what the velocity and energy increase would be in that 18.5" barrel over, say, a 6-8" barrel revolver? __________________ Stand and Fight Last edited by permafrost; 06-22-2011 at 04:31 PM..

06-22-2011, 04:59 PM	#4
savage170 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: FL Posts: 385	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Hornady say's they're leverevolution ones go up to 1850 from 18" barrell

06-22-2011, 05:12 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Sounds about right. A 158 gr XTP runs about 1400 from a 6 inch barrel. the same load should be good for about 1750 from an 18 inch barrel.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

06-22-2011, 05:27 PM	#6
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,660	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Don't really see a reason for it, myself. 357 is great in a rifle-length barrel, but anything you can do in a five-round bolt gun, you can do twice as good in a 10-round lever gun. Now, that same rifle, in 7.62 x 39 would probably be pretty neat. Did you notice the auction, at the bottom of the page. Gonna auction off some "rare items". That means they found some stuff in the back room, and decided to make some money off it. Brand New Speed Six. Well, that'd be kinda cool to have. Rather have a stainless one than a blue one, but it would be cool. "No Reserve". Starting price of 300 sounds like it has a reserve of 300. Then the neat little comment, at the end. "Buyer is responsible for excise tax". So if you get it for 350 bucks, it's actually $388.50. Oh well. Woulda been cool. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

06-22-2011, 05:51 PM	#7
Artemus V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mass. Posts: 358	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine I totally agree with Alpo.If Ruger made it in a lever action or a pump I would def. want one.

06-22-2011, 02:02 PM	#1
savage170 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: FL Posts: 385	Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine http://www.ruger.com/index.html I like it it would make a good truck gun --> Last edited by savage170; 06-22-2011 at 02:13 PM.. Reason: spelling error

06-22-2011, 02:50 PM	#2
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine I agree. As would the gunsite scout rifle.. Excellent brush guns.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

06-22-2011, 08:44 PM	#8
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine IMI already made it in a pump. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

06-22-2011, 08:55 PM	#9
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine That reciever is very Remingtonish.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

06-22-2011, 10:07 PM	#10
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,660	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Well, yeah they did. But, #1, I've heard they are not that reliable - they can be kinda finicky. And, #2, they don't make 'em anymore. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

06-23-2011, 07:14 AM	#11
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine I'd like one in .41 magnum, but I guess they won't make just one!

06-23-2011, 11:32 AM	#12
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Alpo, Haven't shot mine all that much - maybe around 500 rounds of .38Spl and .357mag - never had a problem and the accuracy at 50 yards with the heavy .38s is excellent. No, they don't make them anymore - must have been a low sales thing. However, the .357mag and the .44 mag versions are now selling for big bucks on the used market. Yep, the receiver is very Remingtonish - right down to the action release lever and cross bolt safety. A nice feature (?) if you want to haul it around in a bag - it takes down like a Winchester Model 62. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

06-23-2011, 12:35 PM	#13
Albtraum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 635	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine A bolt? ehh... I'd prefer an old lever action in .38spl/.357mag

06-23-2011, 02:33 PM	#14
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,660	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Just relating rumors I've heard. Be a shame, if it's true. I'd like to have one. I'm a pump-gun fan, and medium-powered centerfire pump, that actually worked every time, would be just so neat to have. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

06-23-2011, 04:17 PM	#15
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine Rumors are rumors, facts are facts. My original point, which I didn't make very well - the pump .357 Mag has been tried, at least once with the Action Arms/IMI Timberwolf - didn't seem to catch on very well. If I'm not mistaken there are a couple recent iterations of the Colt "LIGHTNING" pump rifle out there in that chambering also - those being very expensive - don't seem to be hot sellers. There's a ton of different lever actions in .357 Mag. Bolt action is a NEW idea - kind of like the Spanish Destroyer concept. I, personally (but then what the hell do I know?), can't see a real purpose for it - other than for fairly close small game or small deer hunting. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie Last edited by Jim Hauff; 06-23-2011 at 04:19 PM..

06-27-2011, 12:57 PM	#17
Mecanik Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine WOW!! I can see a .30-357 in the future! __________________ "It is through the fire of oppression that the thirst for freedom is forged into the minds of citizens. "

10-24-2011, 09:22 AM	#18
Little Rooster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Old Dominion Posts: 564	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine I think it's a little over priced at $749 msrp I'll stick to my Marlin lever gun __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know Victory Nor Defeat" Teddy Roosevelt

10-24-2011, 12:12 PM	#19
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,325	Re: Rugers new 357 Bolt action Carbine I had one of the Model 77's in .44 Mag a while back. It was an excellent rifle and it is one of those that I wonder why I traded it. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)