HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle - The Firearms Forum

muscledcactus · 07-06-2011, 12:40 AM

I have a Hopkins and Allen cap and ball rifle.The only info on it, is on the barrel.It reads MOD.29
HOPKINS AND ALLEN
00512 CAL.50
BLACK POWDER ONLY
Can anyone give me any info on when this gun was made? I've checked out some pretty informative sites.I found out that the co. started out as Hopkins and Allen in 1868,then later changed to Hopkins and Allen mfg co. then later to Hopkins and Allen Arms co. I can't seem to get any info on the earlier Hopkins and Allen.I have a friend that is an antique gun collector, he said he thinks the serial#00512 is the 512th rifle made of this model.

Bill DeShivs · 07-06-2011, 06:57 AM

The fact that it is marked "Black Powder Only" means it is a modern gun-not an antique.
Numrich Arms owned the H&A name, and made guns so marked in the 1970s.

hrf · 07-06-2011, 07:40 AM

I think Numrich started making H&A muzzleloaders in 1950s and they still list parts for some models, but you can call them and probably date your gun more accurately:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ContactUs.aspx

Jim Hauff · 07-06-2011, 08:51 AM

Definitely a NUMRICH/Gun Parts Corp. made firearm - a modern reproduction made from older parts.
Numrich also "made" a number of other firearms from parts kits they purchased over the years - Thompson Auto Ornance comes to mind.

muscledcactus · 07-06-2011, 02:52 PM

Thank you guys! you've been very helpful.

07-06-2011, 12:40 AM	#1
muscledcactus Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2	HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle I have a Hopkins and Allen cap and ball rifle.The only info on it, is on the barrel.It reads MOD.29 HOPKINS AND ALLEN 00512 CAL.50 BLACK POWDER ONLY Can anyone give me any info on when this gun was made? I've checked out some pretty informative sites.I found out that the co. started out as Hopkins and Allen in 1868,then later changed to Hopkins and Allen mfg co. then later to Hopkins and Allen Arms co. I can't seem to get any info on the earlier Hopkins and Allen.I have a friend that is an antique gun collector, he said he thinks the serial#00512 is the 512th rifle made of this model. --> Last edited by muscledcactus; 07-06-2011 at 12:44 AM..

07-06-2011, 06:57 AM	#2
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle The fact that it is marked "Black Powder Only" means it is a modern gun-not an antique. Numrich Arms owned the H&A name, and made guns so marked in the 1970s. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

07-06-2011, 07:40 AM	#3
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,277	Re: HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle I think Numrich started making H&A muzzleloaders in 1950s and they still list parts for some models, but you can call them and probably date your gun more accurately: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ContactUs.aspx

07-06-2011, 08:51 AM	#4
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle Definitely a NUMRICH/Gun Parts Corp. made firearm - a modern reproduction made from older parts. Numrich also "made" a number of other firearms from parts kits they purchased over the years - Thompson Auto Ornance comes to mind. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie Last edited by Jim Hauff; 07-06-2011 at 08:53 AM..

07-06-2011, 02:52 PM	#5
muscledcactus Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2	Re: HOPKINS AND ALLEN MOD.29 rifle Thank you guys! you've been very helpful.