Greek Philosophy ...... - The Firearms Forum

JohnHenry · 09-20-2011, 05:23 PM

Greek Philosophy --- As pertinent today as 399 BC !!

Keep this in mind the next time you are about to repeat a rumor or spread
gossip!

In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom.

One day an acquaintance ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you
know what I just heard about Diogenes?"

"Wait a moment," Socrates replied, "Before you tell me I'd like you to pass
a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test."
'Triple filter?" asked the acquaintance.

"That's right," Socrates continued, "Before you talk to me about Diogenes
let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say. The first filter is
Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is
true?"

"No," the man said, "Actually I just heard about it."

"All right," said Socrates, "So you don't really know if it's true or not.
Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are
about to tell me about Diogenes something good?"

"No, on the contrary..."

"So," Socrates continued, "You want to tell me something about Diogenes that may be bad, even though you're not certain it's true?"

The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, "You may still
pass the third test though, because there is a third filter, the filter of
Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about Diogenes going to be useful to
me?"

"No, I'm not sure really."

"Well," concluded Socrates, "If what you want to tell me is neither True nor
Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me or anyone at all?"
The man was bewildered and ashamed. This is an example of why Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem.

It also explains why Socrates never found out that Diogenes was banging his
wife.

woolleyworm · 09-20-2011, 05:28 PM

there's some food for thought!

Old Grump · 09-21-2011, 10:54 AM

Good gosh, we were married to the same woman.

rooter · 09-21-2011, 11:15 AM

I have a question about the Greeks, particularily the women...Why always the joking comments about Greek love making...I realize every Greek woman I've ever seen was built like one of the 'brick' ones, but what's the magic? French women I can kinda relate to having been stationed in the Old French Morocco area for a couple of years...They just 'ooze' of it like those Vermont maple trees do the sap for syrup! You didn't know that, Pilgrim...But back to the Greek Gals....enlighten this old Iowa farm hand!!!! Chief

JohnHenry · 09-21-2011, 03:37 PM

Chief .....
Females only come in three grades, GOOD, BETTER, and BEST .... and,
the worst one I ever had was MARVELOUS !

09-20-2011, 05:23 PM	#1
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,215	Greek Philosophy ...... Greek Philosophy --- As pertinent today as 399 BC !! Keep this in mind the next time you are about to repeat a rumor or spread gossip! In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom. One day an acquaintance ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about Diogenes?" "Wait a moment," Socrates replied, "Before you tell me I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test." 'Triple filter?" asked the acquaintance. "That's right," Socrates continued, "Before you talk to me about Diogenes let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say. The first filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?" "No," the man said, "Actually I just heard about it." "All right," said Socrates, "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about Diogenes something good?" "No, on the contrary..." "So," Socrates continued, "You want to tell me something about Diogenes that may be bad, even though you're not certain it's true?" The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, "You may still pass the third test though, because there is a third filter, the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about Diogenes going to be useful to me?" "No, I'm not sure really." "Well," concluded Socrates, "If what you want to tell me is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me or anyone at all?" The man was bewildered and ashamed. This is an example of why Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem. It also explains why Socrates never found out that Diogenes was banging his wife. __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home . -->

09-20-2011, 05:28 PM	#2
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: Greek Philosophy ...... there's some food for thought! __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

09-21-2011, 10:54 AM	#3
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,286	Re: Greek Philosophy ...... Good gosh, we were married to the same woman. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

09-21-2011, 11:15 AM	#4
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,269	Re: Greek Philosophy ...... I have a question about the Greeks, particularily the women...Why always the joking comments about Greek love making...I realize every Greek woman I've ever seen was built like one of the 'brick' ones, but what's the magic? French women I can kinda relate to having been stationed in the Old French Morocco area for a couple of years...They just 'ooze' of it like those Vermont maple trees do the sap for syrup! You didn't know that, Pilgrim...But back to the Greek Gals....enlighten this old Iowa farm hand!!!! Chief __________________

09-21-2011, 03:37 PM	#5
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,215	Re: Greek Philosophy ...... Chief ..... Females only come in three grades, GOOD, BETTER, and BEST .... and, the worst one I ever had was MARVELOUS ! __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home .