would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps - The Firearms Forum

accident · 10-29-2011, 10:34 AM

out of the 13 .22 bolt rifles i own, only 2 will consistently shoot ragged hole 1" groups consistently.One is an old Romanian military target rifle with aguila target ammo,the other is a CZ452 varmint in .17Mach2.My other rifles shoot accurately once I've found the ammoo it likes but not the really tight groups I'd like.I realize an Anschutz or some other expensive target rifle would do the job but my resources limit me to the $200-$400 price range.Is there another rifle anyone would recommend either new or used that I might like? I have lots of different brands/types of .22 ammo target and otherwise to experiment with.I'd love to have an old Win.75 or Rem.37 but price and availability probably will prevent this.With my limited budget am i just dreaming or does anyone have suggestions? THANKS, JOE

raydcarter · 10-29-2011, 10:44 AM

I got a nice Savage MK II BTVS for about $330 a couple of years ago. It does that well.

accident · 10-29-2011, 11:17 AM

raydcarter, does the Savage come with the Accutrigger?

Chinook · 10-29-2011, 01:50 PM

Yes. If he bought it new a couple years back... It should.

Im assuming you are shooting @ 100yds? and would like another Bolt rifle...If so, I cant argue with the value, and performance of a Savage Mk II series! I also like the 64's in the Semi auto variety.

mr.t7024 · 10-29-2011, 06:55 PM

Savage Mark 11 ,the one with the bull barrel, you will be pleased!

Josh Smith · 10-29-2011, 07:39 PM

Hello,

Another vote for the Savage MkII bull barrel. I've heard, but not confirmed, that the bull barrels are by Anschutz .

You can also do this by modifying a Ruger 10/22 with a target barrel and a bunch of other goodies, but unless you get some deals you'll come in over your target price.

I personally, however, am considering a 10/22 build after having done the bolt action thing.

I have shot Appleseed with both a Ruger 10/22 and Savage MkII BTVS and qualified for the patch with both.

Because of this, I never really considered the bolt action to be a handicap. Your experience may of course vary.

Regards,

Josh

bamajoey · 10-29-2011, 09:07 PM

Are you shooting 50 yds or 100 yds?

Big Shrek · 10-30-2011, 03:03 PM

Grab an old Marlin

raydcarter · 10-30-2011, 04:55 PM

Yes, it does come with accutrigger.

accident · 10-30-2011, 05:07 PM

Thanks guys.Lots of praise for the savage mkII BTVS.Is this a thumbhole stock only option?I tried to view it on Able's but sometimes the picture isn't correct.I would like a regular stock and preferrably a varmint barrel like my CZ but I don't know what model# it would be.By the way my range is 65yds give or take. THANKS Joe

accident · 10-30-2011, 05:14 PM

I forgot to ask,I've heard rumors of the Savage MKII having magazine feeding troubles. Have ya'll experienced this or maybe theres no truth to it. Thanks again Joe

Josh Smith · 10-30-2011, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accident

I forgot to ask,I've heard rumors of the Savage MKII having magazine feeding troubles. Have ya'll experienced this or maybe theres no truth to it. Thanks again Joe

Hello,

I definitely had trouble with mine. Here is the fix I came up with:

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=96359

Regards,

Josh

accident · 10-30-2011, 07:36 PM

thanks for the thread Josh. Joe

Old Grump · 10-31-2011, 02:01 PM

Unlikely all your guns are shot out unless you have done something nasty to them. You may be shooting ammo that only your sharp shooting guns like any you will have to switch. What are you shooting, brand, bullet weight, plated/unplated, brand, sub sonic, standard or high velocity? A change in ammo might put your other guns back in the winners circle.

1 Eyed Jack · 10-31-2011, 03:24 PM

If you don't like the thumbhole model (I dont because I shoot left handed) go with the "BV" model, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBV

You can see them all at the Savage website, If you dont want wood, there are plenty of plastic models to choose from, the Mk II BV is MY next pruchase,

Here is a package for example, Savage price is $327, so can no doubt be gotten even cheaper, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFVXP

See all of them here http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/allfirearms

Big ugly · 10-31-2011, 08:25 PM

Hit your gun shows up and do some hard looking. I love the the Remington 513T. I have been known to shoot the thumbtacks that hold my target on the board off at 50 yards.

whirley · 10-31-2011, 08:49 PM

I lucked onto a pre WW2 Mossberg 22 with heavy barrel. Mossberg, the founder was a match shooter and many of his pre WW2 rifles had adjustable triggers, even some of the cheaper models.

bamajoey · 10-31-2011, 09:24 PM

You mentioned a CZ Varmint in .17 Mach2, this is what my CZ 22lr is capable of at 50 yds. Most CZ's will do this with the right ammo.

[IMG]

[/IMG]

Josh Smith · 11-01-2011, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 Eyed Jack

If you don't like the thumbhole model (I dont because I shoot left handed) go with the "BV" model, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBV

You can see them all at the Savage website, If you dont want wood, there are plenty of plastic models to choose from, the Mk II BV is MY next pruchase,

Here is a package for example, Savage price is $327, so can no doubt be gotten even cheaper, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFVXP

See all of them here http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/allfirearms

Hello,

I have a lefty's MkII BTVS. Are they no longer available???

Regards,

Josh

Josh Smith · 11-01-2011, 01:03 AM

Random pics:

Calm day, Savage MkII

MkII, 100 yards, kept hitting danged limbs! Springtime on my shooting range leads to this...

I have this fetish where I like to precision target shoot with supersonic bulk ammo. It makes MOA shooting a challenge.

This is the level I expect from all my rimfires. The Ruger 10/22 I had, I bought for Appleseed then sold it when I found out how inaccurate they are stock (I did have Tech-Sights on mine).

Regards,

Josh

10-29-2011, 10:34 AM	#1
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps out of the 13 .22 bolt rifles i own, only 2 will consistently shoot ragged hole 1" groups consistently.One is an old Romanian military target rifle with aguila target ammo,the other is a CZ452 varmint in .17Mach2.My other rifles shoot accurately once I've found the ammoo it likes but not the really tight groups I'd like.I realize an Anschutz or some other expensive target rifle would do the job but my resources limit me to the $200-$400 price range.Is there another rifle anyone would recommend either new or used that I might like? I have lots of different brands/types of .22 ammo target and otherwise to experiment with.I'd love to have an old Win.75 or Rem.37 but price and availability probably will prevent this.With my limited budget am i just dreaming or does anyone have suggestions? THANKS, JOE __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson -->

10-29-2011, 10:44 AM	#2
raydcarter V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps I got a nice Savage MK II BTVS for about $330 a couple of years ago. It does that well.

10-29-2011, 11:17 AM	#3
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps raydcarter, does the Savage come with the Accutrigger? __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

10-29-2011, 01:50 PM	#4
Chinook V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: 17 pulls, into the propwash... Contributor Posts: 423	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Yes. If he bought it new a couple years back... It should. Im assuming you are shooting @ 100yds? and would like another Bolt rifle...If so, I cant argue with the value, and performance of a Savage Mk II series! I also like the 64's in the Semi auto variety.

10-29-2011, 06:55 PM	#5
mr.t7024 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Near a brook & pond in Ma Posts: 734	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Savage Mark 11 ,the one with the bull barrel, you will be pleased!

10-29-2011, 07:39 PM	#6
Josh Smith V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wabash IN Contributor Posts: 66	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Hello, Another vote for the Savage MkII bull barrel. I've heard, but not confirmed, that the bull barrels are by Anschutz . You can also do this by modifying a Ruger 10/22 with a target barrel and a bunch of other goodies, but unless you get some deals you'll come in over your target price. I personally, however, am considering a 10/22 build after having done the bolt action thing. I have shot Appleseed with both a Ruger 10/22 and Savage MkII BTVS and qualified for the patch with both. Because of this, I never really considered the bolt action to be a handicap. Your experience may of course vary. Regards, Josh __________________ - Smith-Sights Adjustable Sights for the Mosin-Nagant -

10-29-2011, 09:07 PM	#7
bamajoey Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pensacola Contributor Posts: 1,258	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Are you shooting 50 yds or 100 yds?

10-30-2011, 03:03 PM	#8
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 923	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Grab an old Marlin __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

10-30-2011, 04:55 PM	#9
raydcarter V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Yes, it does come with accutrigger.

10-30-2011, 05:07 PM	#10
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Thanks guys.Lots of praise for the savage mkII BTVS.Is this a thumbhole stock only option?I tried to view it on Able's but sometimes the picture isn't correct.I would like a regular stock and preferrably a varmint barrel like my CZ but I don't know what model# it would be.By the way my range is 65yds give or take. THANKS Joe __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

10-30-2011, 05:14 PM	#11
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps I forgot to ask,I've heard rumors of the Savage MKII having magazine feeding troubles. Have ya'll experienced this or maybe theres no truth to it. Thanks again Joe __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

10-30-2011, 07:36 PM	#13
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps thanks for the thread Josh. Joe __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

10-31-2011, 02:01 PM	#14
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,289	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Unlikely all your guns are shot out unless you have done something nasty to them. You may be shooting ammo that only your sharp shooting guns like any you will have to switch. What are you shooting, brand, bullet weight, plated/unplated, brand, sub sonic, standard or high velocity? A change in ammo might put your other guns back in the winners circle. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

10-31-2011, 03:24 PM	#15
1 Eyed Jack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 673	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps If you don't like the thumbhole model (I dont because I shoot left handed) go with the "BV" model, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBV You can see them all at the Savage website, If you dont want wood, there are plenty of plastic models to choose from, the Mk II BV is MY next pruchase, Here is a package for example, Savage price is $327, so can no doubt be gotten even cheaper, http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIFVXP See all of them here http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/allfirearms

10-31-2011, 08:25 PM	#16
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Hit your gun shows up and do some hard looking. I love the the Remington 513T. I have been known to shoot the thumbtacks that hold my target on the board off at 50 yards. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

10-31-2011, 08:49 PM	#17
whirley V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Contributor Posts: 457	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps I lucked onto a pre WW2 Mossberg 22 with heavy barrel. Mossberg, the founder was a match shooter and many of his pre WW2 rifles had adjustable triggers, even some of the cheaper models.

10-31-2011, 09:24 PM	#18
bamajoey Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pensacola Contributor Posts: 1,258	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps You mentioned a CZ Varmint in .17 Mach2, this is what my CZ 22lr is capable of at 50 yds. Most CZ's will do this with the right ammo. [IMG][/IMG]

11-01-2011, 01:03 AM	#20
Josh Smith V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wabash IN Contributor Posts: 66	Re: would like another .22 that shoots 1" grps Random pics: Calm day, Savage MkII MkII, 100 yards, kept hitting danged limbs! Springtime on my shooting range leads to this... I have this fetish where I like to precision target shoot with supersonic bulk ammo. It makes MOA shooting a challenge. This is the level I expect from all my rimfires. The Ruger 10/22 I had, I bought for Appleseed then sold it when I found out how inaccurate they are stock (I did have Tech-Sights on mine). Regards, Josh __________________ - Smith-Sights Adjustable Sights for the Mosin-Nagant - Last edited by Josh Smith; 11-01-2011 at 01:16 AM..