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10-02-2012, 05:26 AM
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30-06
My 30-06 is loaded with 165 gr Nosler ballistic tips,IMR 4350, and a CCI Mag primer. I have no complaints about this load. [accurate and deadly] I chrono this long time ago at 2750 fps. Now we have some [advertised as improved powders] My question is ,,,,,,,has anyone used anything like Superformance or Hybrid 100 to improve on velocities and still get the same accuracy expected from their rifle? I see 2900 fps achieved in the new reloading data, is this a realistic velocity? Also, has anyone experimented with the Barnes 130 gr TTSX with good results?
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10-02-2012, 07:26 AM
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Re: 30-06
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2750fps seems slow, Hodgdon list that for a Minimum charge, what is your load and barrel length? |
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10-02-2012, 07:28 AM
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Re: 30-06
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Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 168, Nosler BalTip 30168
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Somchem S365 108.4 59.4 3.85 2954 100.0 60000 9246 1.119 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 110.0 63.3 4.10 2936 97.2 55760 10607 1.146 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 105.6 60.1 3.89 2930 98.7 60000 9811 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 105.1 57.6 3.74 2929 99.0 60000 9680 1.114 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 97.0 56.1 3.64 2926 100.0 60000 9357 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 99.7 58.1 3.77 2922 98.1 60000 9774 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 105.1 57.3 3.72 2917 99.7 60000 9490 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.2 57.4 3.72 2917 99.7 60000 9487 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 60.7 3.93 2916 96.4 59957 9915 1.119 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 109.3 57.7 3.74 2915 99.7 60000 9478 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 102.0 57.5 3.72 2915 99.6 60000 9601 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 107.8 56.9 3.69 2913 98.4 60000 9592 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 109.0 59.8 3.87 2907 96.1 60000 9808 1.114 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 98.0 55.8 3.62 2900 100.0 60000 9163 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11 98.1 55.9 3.62 2898 100.0 60000 9150 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 97.0 56.9 3.69 2896 98.0 60000 9610 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 62.3 4.04 2895 93.7 57205 10170 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 110.0 58.1 3.76 2890 99.7 59291 9274 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 107.6 59.3 3.84 2889 96.1 60000 9618 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 107.6 59.3 3.84 2889 96.1 60000 9618 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 104.2 59.3 3.84 2889 96.1 60000 9618 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 60.7 3.93 2887 96.0 58553 9775 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 95.3 52.6 3.41 2876 99.9 60000 9025 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11 95.3 52.6 3.41 2876 99.9 60000 9025 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 95.3 52.6 3.41 2876 99.9 60000 9025 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 95.8 52.8 3.42 2875 100.0 60000 8959 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 110.0 61.3 3.97 2874 97.2 59120 9515 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 90.1 54.2 3.51 2871 100.0 60000 8829 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 97.3 54.3 3.52 2870 100.0 60000 8826 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 96.6 54.4 3.53 2865 99.4 60000 9105 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748 87.7 52.0 3.37 2865 100.0 60000 8512 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 106.1 62.3 4.04 2865 97.4 60000 9303 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 99.5 54.3 3.52 2863 100.0 60000 8752 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 62.0 4.02 2861 92.4 53209 10348 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 108.0 62.8 4.07 2861 96.0 60000 9345 1.123 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-S0701 104.2 56.8 3.68 2860 98.1 60000 9252 1.144 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 97.3 52.8 3.42 2859 100.0 60000 8693 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 110.0 61.3 3.97 2856 93.2 55864 9975 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 93.1 54.7 3.54 2856 99.4 60000 8986 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 99.4 53.6 3.48 2856 100.0 60000 8753 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 108.1 58.8 3.81 2851 94.9 60000 9286 1.127 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 9 92.9 52.9 3.43 2850 100.0 60000 8723 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 61.3 3.97 2849 93.3 58609 9502 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031
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10-02-2012, 07:44 PM
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Re: 30-06
The new powders do bear alot of performance merit over older powders. I worked with 2000MR in the .308 when it first came out. I was pushing a 175 gr sierra matchking at 2985 fps before I started getting pressure signs. And the pressure signs was only loosened primer pockets after 2-3 reloads. I could have easily gone higher and pushed the cases to extractor marks and probably got another 100-150 more fps.
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10-09-2012, 05:07 AM
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Re: 30-06
I am using 57gr of IMR 4350 and a CCI mag primer. Actually my barrel measures 21 1/2". It is an old Win 670.
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10-09-2012, 09:27 AM
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Location: Lompoc California
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Re: 30-06
I've used the 130 TTSX in the .300 win mag with velocities in the 3,600 fps range. IMR4350 is a popular powder in the -06 but I've had better results with H4831. Your shorter barrel might put you into a slightly faster powder like 4350 and some of the newer powders may give you some gain in the shorter tube. IMO I would never trade velocity for accuracy. You also might try the Federal 215M primer.
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