What this election is about.

[NRA_guy]

Originally Posted by firefighter1635

If bozo wins this election there will never be another conservitave President of the United States. We will live in a socialists society from November 6th onward untill the end day.

If Obama is re-elected, we will never have another free election.

It would not surprise me at all to see him declare (or create) a national emergency that "requires" him to suspend the Constitution.

It likely will be hyperinflation.

And the 55% majority of Americans on welfare and his Communist Supreme Court will support him 100%.

Read this opinion piece by Matt Bracken to get a glimpse of the future:

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpres...e-in-violence/

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by Double D

I cant wait till this is all over.....

LOL

Me either.

Because then those that voted for the socialist [light] Romney will see him for what he really is. And I can say, "I told ya so."




And, on a note for the OP, we haven't had true capitalism in the US for many decades. True capitalism ONLY exists under small government. Period. We don't have small government now, and won't have it under Romney either.

[Double D]

Originally Posted by graehaven

LOL

Me either.

Because then those that voted for the socialist [light] Romney will see him for what he really is. And I can say, "I told ya so."




And, on a note for the OP, we haven't had true capitalism in the US for many decades. True capitalism ONLY exists under small government. Period. We don't have small government now, and won't have it under Romney either.

You can check every post I have ever made and see if I have ever said romney is the answer to the problem. You wont find it. I would rather let charles manson take the country off a cliff than allow this criminal one more hour in the white house. How sad is that. I do believe that we can possibly prevent the supreme court appointments that will void the second amendment by getting him out. Just to strip this anti american illegal terrorist muslim of his address is all I want for christmas. If he wins, I may be looking for a real tall cliff to jump from, I dont know if I can take it.

[carver]

Dan, just find a real tall cliff to throw him off of! If ya need any help just holler!

[Clipper]

I can vote for Romney with a great deal more enthusiasm than when I pulled the handle for John McCain. I knew John in the Navy when we were both based at NAS Oceana. He was in a sister AD squadron, and on a different deployment schedule, but I knew him, and thought he was a major ###hole. Romney is not my first choice either, but he is a much safer candidate than Crazy Ron. I WOULD NEVER vote for the Great Pretender, NEVER in a million years, just hope and pray he is defeated this next month, and we NEVER have to endure any of this extreme policies.

[Zhurh]

It's about our Nation's future for sure. Whether we will have an economic collapse or eventually have a stable economy. Whether we will maintain our Nation's status as a world leader or become an England or Argentina. Whether we will see an ending of our constitution which will lead to revolution or still have freedom.

I listened to Romney's foreign policy speech, right on the money. I just hope and pray all the takers don't value their govt check over their kid's future.

My nephew is coming home from Afghan this week, hope to do some hunting with him. He was only there for 5 months, but seems to get sent over there every year. His partner has been to Afghan 8 times since 2001, unreal what they expect our military to go through with their families and kids. I guess he was attached to a Marine Recon Unit last few months; all kinds of "People & Culture" exposure; lots of fire fights & flight time. Anyway, good for him to be back.

[steve4102]

Tell him thanks from all of us .

[Old Grump]

Originally Posted by steve4102

Thanks for the history lesson, but none of that matters now. RP is out, RINO Romney is in and this is what we have to work with.

Romney may be nothing more than a finger in the Dike, but at least its a finger. Obama is ready with a bulldozer to destroy the Dike.

Sit on your hands, refuse to hold your nose and vote for Romney or waste your vote with a write in R Paul,it's all the same, a vote for Obama. This may make you feel better, but it sure as hell will not help this country.

Romney is a temporary fix to be sure, but with Obama at the helm any fix is better than none.

Sit on my hands? I'm not the morally challenged one here who waits till its to late then votes for a soft candidate. I'm the one who has been warning people about Obama a year before he was elected and have been preaching about getting a good constitutionally based government. You wait till it's a done deal and then you say I am sitting on my hands. Where in the hell have you been and what have you been doing? Have you put in the effort to learn the issues and supported your candidate with your time and money or are you the late bloomer? The man who finally realizes there is an election coming up and says to himself, "I better go see who they are going to let me vote for". Are you part of the problem or the solution, Romney is not the solution.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by Double D

You can check every post I have ever made and see if I have ever said romney is the answer to the problem. You wont find it. I would rather let charles manson take the country off a cliff than allow this criminal one more hour in the white house. How sad is that. I do believe that we can possibly prevent the supreme court appointments that will void the second amendment by getting him out. Just to strip this anti american illegal terrorist muslim of his address is all I want for christmas. If he wins, I may be looking for a real tall cliff to jump from, I dont know if I can take it.

No, Dan, I know that YOU don't go for R either. And please, don't jump off a cliff if O wins again, we need you on the side of right, for, God forbid, the crap hittin' the fan. Your family, church, and neighbors will need you too. Those folks'll need all of us.

--Andrew

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by Old Grump

Sit on my hands? I'm not the morally challenged one here who waits till its to late then votes for a soft candidate. I'm the one who has been warning people about Obama a year before he was elected and have been preaching about getting a good constitutionally based government. You wait till it's a done deal and then you say I am sitting on my hands. Where in the hell have you been and what have you been doing? Have you put in the effort to learn the issues and supported your candidate with your time and money or are you the late bloomer? The man who finally realizes there is an election coming up and says to himself, "I better go see who they are going to let me vote for". Are you part of the problem or the solution, Romney is not the solution.

Thanks for your stand Grump.

You know what is truly sad, Steve? Here in NY state, the state will go to Obama. Romney doesn't have a chance. So, all the people here that vote for Romney.... are THROWING AWAY THEIR VOTE. Instead of either not voting, or voting for a different person entirely - and telling the Republican party that their machine stinks and is broken, they'll follow blindly along again.

[steve4102]

Originally Posted by graehaven

LOL

Me either.

Because then those that voted for the socialist [light] Romney will see him for what he really is. And I can say, "I told ya so."

.

I rest my case.

[markfh]

Originally Posted by graehaven

Thanks for your stand Grump.

You know what is truly sad, Steve? Here in NY state, the state will go to Obama. Romney doesn't have a chance. So, all the people here that vote for Romney.... are THROWING AWAY THEIR VOTE. Instead of either not voting, or voting for a different person entirely - and telling the Republican party that their machine stinks and is broken, they'll follow blindly along again.

They'll also piss in the wind with the same effect but hey, that'll teach those corrupt republicans won't it.

[45silverback]

Originally Posted by jack404

A= Communism
B = a stepping stone along the way

C= Freedom so create your own party that will do what the nation needs not what some group of theorists want to happen

Absolutely agree Jack...
But not this election. This one is just to damned important. We got 1 shot to get the Commie out of the whitehouse.

The rest we have to handle later.

What do you do first? Put out the fire, or start painting the other side of the house?

[45silverback]

Originally Posted by graehaven

LOL

Me either.

Because then those that voted for the socialist [light] Romney will see him for what he really is. And I can say, "I told ya so."




And, on a note for the OP, we haven't had true capitalism in the US for many decades. True capitalism ONLY exists under small government. Period. We don't have small government now, and won't have it under Romney either.

I assure you I know a bunch more about the history and evolution of totalitarian governments than you do. This is just a cycle repeated. I wnat to slow it down long enought to die a comfortable death...

[johnnyehlers]

Make Mine Freedom (1948)
So many good messages from history, why didn't we pay attention sooner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75...ayer_embedded#!

[steve4102]

Originally Posted by graehaven

Thanks for your stand Grump.

You know what is truly sad, Steve? Here in NY state, the state will go to Obama. Romney doesn't have a chance. So, all the people here that vote for Romney.... are THROWING AWAY THEIR VOTE. Instead of either not voting, or voting for a different person entirely - and telling the Republican party that their machine stinks and is broken, they'll follow blindly along again.

Not with people like you sitting back waiting for a self-gratifying "I told you so".

Unlike you I will do whatever I can to oust Obama. Even if that means holding my nose at the voting booth.

Good luck, be safe and enjoy the New Socialist America you helped create. Thanks.

[Double D]

Oh the time cant come fast enough.........

[Old Grump]

Originally Posted by steve4102

Not with people like you sitting back waiting for a self-gratifying "I told you so".

Unlike you I will do whatever I can to oust Obama. Even if that means holding my nose at the voting booth.

Good luck, be safe and enjoy the New Socialist America you helped create. Thanks.

When have you ever seen me post a "I told you so"? Unlike you I will keep on working to educate ostriches till enough of them get the courage to take a stand for what is right instead of just blindly voting for another party hack.

There is another election in 2 years, will you be ready to make good choices or will you wait till the last 30 days and then look around to see who the party bosses want you to vote for?

[steve4102]

Originally Posted by Old Grump

When have you ever seen me post a "I told you so"? Unlike you I will keep on working to educate ostriches till enough of them get the courage to take a stand for what is right instead of just blindly voting for another party hack.

There is another election in 2 years, will you be ready to make good choices or will you wait till the last 30 days and then look around to see who the party bosses want you to vote for?

Might want to look at who I quoted there bud. As in post #27 and 36.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by steve4102

Not with people like you sitting back waiting for a self-gratifying "I told you so".

Unlike you I will do whatever I can to oust Obama. Even if that means holding my nose at the voting booth.

Good luck, be safe and enjoy the New Socialist America you helped create. Thanks.

No Republican presidential candidate since Reagan has won NY state Steve. How is that my fault? How is it my fault if Romney doesn't win NY state, even if I voted for him? It's a numeric impossibility for him to win NY state, so, how is that my fault, whether I vote for him or not? Your case isn't a case at all. Making things personal does nothing to help your argument either.

[steve4102]

Originally Posted by graehaven

No Republican presidential candidate since Reagan has won NY state Steve. How is that my fault? How is it my fault if Romney doesn't win NY state, even if I voted for him? It's a numeric impossibility for him to win NY state, so, how is that my fault, whether I vote for him or not? Your case isn't a case at all. Making things personal does nothing to help your argument either.

Big difference between giving up because you live in a State full of Liberals as opposed to preaching the Obama Light, Romney the Socialist, "I told you so" , Romney sucks crap.

You have given up on your State and your Country, fine I get it. But why the continued effort to derail a Romney Victory?

Just because he has little or no chance in your State you are hell bent on convincing the rest of America how he is Obama Light and will continue implementing Obama's Socialist programs.

BTW here in the land of the true Left wing nut jobs, MN. Obama is behind in the recent polls. Romney has no campaign headquarters and is not spending a dime in this State as he has written it off as you have written off NY. Grass roots and hard work by individuals have put Romney Neck and neck with a slight lead. I'm not saying Romney will take MN, but it's close enough to keep pushing, educating and trying. Unlike you I will not give up and I will certainly not preach the Romney Light crap just because my State may be a lost cause.

[markfh]

Originally Posted by steve4102

Unlike you I will not give up and I will certainly not preach the Romney Light crap just because my State may be a lost cause.

+1


Here in Texas we're working at flushing the RHINOs and pretenders out of office. It's hard work and takes time. I'll fight this battle now so we don't have to do something else later.

[CampingJosh]

Originally Posted by 45silverback

I assure you I know a bunch more about the history and evolution of totalitarian governments than you do.

I love reading claims like this online.

You don't have any idea if you're talking to a 8th grade kid who spends all day on World of Warcraft or a PhD who teaches graduate-level history classes.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by steve4102

Big difference between giving up because you live in a State full of Liberals as opposed to preaching the Obama Light, Romney the Socialist, "I told you so" , Romney sucks crap.

You have given up on your State and your Country, fine I get it. But why the continued effort to derail a Romney Victory?

Just because he has little or no chance in your State you are hell bent on convincing the rest of America how he is Obama Light and will continue implementing Obama's Socialist programs.

BTW here in the land of the true Left wing nut jobs, MN. Obama is behind in the recent polls. Romney has no campaign headquarters and is not spending a dime in this State as he has written it off as you have written off NY. Grass roots and hard work by individuals have put Romney Neck and neck with a slight lead. I'm not saying Romney will take MN, but it's close enough to keep pushing, educating and trying. Unlike you I will not give up and I will certainly not preach the Romney Light crap just because my State may be a lost cause.

The "I told you so" comment was some dark humor Steve. I'm sorry you didn't get it. Your vitriolic response is a bit over the top.

Just because I'm telling the truth about Romney, doesn't mean I've given up on my state or my country. That's ridiculous. His record speaks for itself, as does what he's currently saying (NO CHANGE). What continued effort to derail Romney? I haven't said anything about this for 2 months. LOL Exaggerate much? I can't derail Romney, in this state or any other.

I'm not hell bent on convincing anyone on anything, other than the truth. Romney's record speaks for itself. The warning is clear. He has little difference from our current dictator, and it's doubtful he will change the direction of the country - based on his OWN record and current comments.

You want "Anyone but Obama," I get that. I find it interesting that so many gun owners, yourself included, want an avid GUN-HATER in the WH so badly over the current liberal in the WH. I'm just afraid you'll be unpleasantly surprised. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.

Please understand, if Romney wins, I really do hope he does the right thing and turn things around. But, I don't really believe he will.

[Old Grump]

All I know for sure is the only poll that counts is the one being taken in 27 days. Interesting to see Obamas over all lead in the country dwindle to a tie and his 14 point lead in Wisconsin a Democrat state if there ever was one dwindle down to 4 points.

I'm spitting in the wind trying to get people put of their rut but I have to try. I know Romney is a good moral man but so was Carter and so was Bush. Takes more than going to Sunday school and swearing off the use of drugs and alcohol to make a good leader. I will admit when it comes to Executive Experience Romney is heads and shoulders above the light weight now occupying the oval office but the fact remains he is a soft Republican and we haven't had a good hard core solid values Republican get taken seriously by the party leadership in decades. That is why I finally left the Republican party. They gave up on their core values.