How will you handle a TSA check point?

dbcooper · 10-09-2012, 07:13 AM

well?

the TSA have been popping up just about everywhere it seems on the highways running some sort of check points

there is an encouraging video of a guy that just said "no thanks"
I don't want to participate and they held him a few minutes, scratched their heads and let him go

what is your plan of action if you drive up on one of these?

soundguy · 10-09-2012, 07:18 AM

i don't know the accuracy of these reports.. but a guy at work told me that the tsa has purchased 'mobile
barricade equipment. IE.. so they literally could drive p to a road and setup a stop.

anyone heard about this?

carver · 10-09-2012, 07:23 AM

Untill you made this post, and I goggled TSA Checkpoints, I didn't know they existed! Just what we need! Another Government Police Force that isn't legal constitutionally! I don't know what I'ld do at this point. Got to do some more research!

carver · 10-09-2012, 07:30 AM

http://www.infowars.com/tsa-invades-...r-checkpoints/

The TSA has announced its intention to expand the VIPR program to include roadside inspections of commercial vehicles, setting up a network of internal checkpoints and rolling out security procedures already active in airports, bus terminals and subway stations to roads and highways across the United States.

RYANINMICHIGAN · 10-09-2012, 07:40 AM

Not happening

carver · 10-09-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RYANINMICHIGAN

Not happening

Oh yes it is! Right under your nose!

howlnmad · 10-09-2012, 07:48 AM

That's what I need, more idiots with no clue holding me up from doing my job.

carver · 10-09-2012, 07:58 AM

It appears that TSA has more power than your State authorized Troopers. TX State Troopers only have power within the State of TX. TSA can set up checkpoints where ever they want to within the borders of the U.S.

jedwil · 10-09-2012, 08:00 AM

Shoeless truckdrivers....Never thought I'd see it........

Shooter45 · 10-09-2012, 08:08 AM

The article is almost two years old and so far, no check points.

howlnmad · 10-09-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooter45

The article is almost two years old and so far, no check points.

The only thing I have seen mentioned in the link Carver provided is the radiation detectors. They're set up at scales and have thermal sensors as well. Funny thing though, I was enduring an inspection in Ky and a truck rolled through and set off the radiation alarm. The truck was loaded with red facing bricks (the ones with holes in them). The inspector told me it happens every time a load of bricks goes through.

RYANINMICHIGAN · 10-09-2012, 08:27 AM

None here. Border patrol tried this **** and it did not go over well.

soundguy · 10-09-2012, 08:28 AM

red brick has a higher background radiation output than cinder block or wood.. etc...

dbcooper · 10-09-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carver

Untill you made this post, and I goggled TSA Checkpoints, I didn't know they existed! Just what we need! Another Government Police Force that isn't legal constitutionally! I don't know what I'ld do at this point. Got to do some more research!

if you remember obama, during the 08 campaign, he touted having a civilian force equal to the army.

well, he has one in DHS and they just ordered 1.6 BILLION rounds of ammo to "practice" with

soundguy · 10-09-2012, 08:39 AM

and trained or civil unrest..

Blackhawk Dave · 10-09-2012, 08:41 AM

I've been stopped down towards the border by the state troopers. Quick "you y'all doin" and a glance in the van and we were gone. Minor annoyance. I did get ticked off by the state doing a stop on a highway for a friggin' survey about how we used the highway. Dimwits!

The answer is, no, you can't look in my car, no, no, no. You got a warrant?

hogger129 · 10-09-2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbcooper

well?

the TSA have been popping up just about everywhere it seems on the highways running some sort of check points

there is an encouraging video of a guy that just said "no thanks"
I don't want to participate and they held him a few minutes, scratched their heads and let him go

what is your plan of action if you drive up on one of these?

Roll the window down, hand him my license/registration/proof of insurance if asked. I won't submit to any searches unless I'm under arrest or they have a warrant saying they may search my vehicle.

FlashBang · 10-09-2012, 11:59 AM

The TSA does not now, nor have they ever had, any law enforcement powers. They are nothing more then security guards for airports. I will not stop for a TSA checkpoint and if they were to force me off the road, attempt to open my vehicle door or remove me from my vehicle, I will treat them the same as any other car jacker in full accordance and justification under Texas Law.

aa1911 · 10-09-2012, 12:07 PM

They cause enough problems in the airport, don't need them cluttering up the roads too.

On my trip a couple weeks ago, I never wanted to punch a TSA guy so badly before; there were two lines waiting to go thru the scanners, one was less obvious as it was further away and was a shorter line.

This one TSA dude motioned for some folks to go to the other shorter line and said "Come on folks, head over there, it's OK. I'm not as intimidating as I look."

I stared at him in disbelief, what a clown. And no guy, you're not intimidating at all. You rank up there with mall security as far as I'm concerned. What a D-bag.

OH, and did you guys hear about the cancer patient who got raped over by TSA the other day? heard it on the radio this morning, this is the first article that popped up about it in Google I could find:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/c...rport-17434042

they contaminated the IV she had, freakin' idiots.

carver · 10-09-2012, 12:09 PM

http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-bus...etting-up.html
As part of an ongoing terrorism prevention and response program, the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security hosted a statewide exercise on October 18-20, 2011. TSA participated through its Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response program. The exercise focused on improving the communications and operating relationships of state, local, and federal agencies when responding to any type of homeland security situation.

TSA VIPR personnel participated at multiple locations in the Tennessee exercise, supporting state and local personnel as they inspected vehicles to identify potential security threats.

In addition, Transportation Security Officers were in attendance to provide information including a leaflet to truck drivers at weigh stations about TSA’s First Observer program that encourages drivers to report potentially suspicious activity or items they see on the road.

TSA officers did not physically screen drivers during this exercise as erroneously reported. The actual vehicle inspections were conducted by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol just the same as they are done every day.

targetacqmgt · 10-09-2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howlnmad

The only thing I have seen mentioned in the link Carver provided is the radiation detectors. They're set up at scales and have thermal sensors as well. Funny thing though, I was enduring an inspection in Ky and a truck rolled through and set off the radiation alarm. The truck was loaded with red facing bricks (the ones with holes in them). The inspector told me it happens every time a load of bricks goes through.

Where were the bricks made Los Alamos???

Or from red clay take from near a Nuke power plant?? Pu 238 amd 239 are used in the SE part of SOuth Carolina near Ga border. Lots of red brick clay in Ga, Lets see anyone know half life of plutonium??

marlin795 · 10-09-2012, 01:01 PM

I would tell them to get lost. Last time I dealt with TSA I almost punched the guy and I was heading home from the Army. I was discharged without any civi's so I went home in PT shirt and Shorts and running shoes with that cheap backpack they gave me when I enlisted. I had my DD214 on me and they flat out pulled me aside and radioed me in seeing if I was deserting!!! I had my DD214 and my ID's on me!

soundguy · 10-09-2012, 01:02 PM

depends on the isotope.. 244 80mys.. 238..88ys big difference..

jack404 · 10-09-2012, 04:27 PM

i have a T shirt

9 convictions for improper touching

will you be number 10 ?

got it when this TSA BS first started

looking forward to wearing it through your customs with my air travel notices ( should be doozies by now)

firefighter1635 · 10-09-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogger129

Roll the window down, hand him my license/registration/proof of insurance if asked. I won't submit to any searches unless I'm under arrest or they have a warrant saying they may search my vehicle.

Why would you do that?? I'd do exactly what I do when the local PD here want's to set up a Nazi checkpoint err sobriety checkpoint. Roll down my window, ask if i'm being detained followed by am I free to go? It's Illegal, aka aginst the law, to be stopped without probable cause, at leist in Ohio.

I've been threatened with all sorts of unjustified charges for not answering their "Have you been drinking tonight" questions only to drive off in the end without a single charge. They know the 'ole "sobriety checkpoint" BS is unconstitutional, they just bank on catching the sheep.

10-09-2012, 07:13 AM	#1
dbcooper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Contributor Posts: 658	How will you handle a TSA check point? well? the TSA have been popping up just about everywhere it seems on the highways running some sort of check points there is an encouraging video of a guy that just said "no thanks" I don't want to participate and they held him a few minutes, scratched their heads and let him go what is your plan of action if you drive up on one of these? -->

10-09-2012, 07:18 AM	#2
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,406	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? i don't know the accuracy of these reports.. but a guy at work told me that the tsa has purchased 'mobile barricade equipment. IE.. so they literally could drive p to a road and setup a stop. anyone heard about this?

10-09-2012, 07:23 AM	#3
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? Untill you made this post, and I goggled TSA Checkpoints, I didn't know they existed! Just what we need! Another Government Police Force that isn't legal constitutionally! I don't know what I'ld do at this point. Got to do some more research! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-09-2012, 07:30 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? http://www.infowars.com/tsa-invades-...r-checkpoints/ The TSA has announced its intention to expand the VIPR program to include roadside inspections of commercial vehicles, setting up a network of internal checkpoints and rolling out security procedures already active in airports, bus terminals and subway stations to roads and highways across the United States. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-09-2012, 07:40 AM	#5
RYANINMICHIGAN V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 223	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? Not happening

10-09-2012, 07:48 AM	#7
howlnmad Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harriman, Tn Contributor Posts: 2,562	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? That's what I need, more idiots with no clue holding me up from doing my job. __________________

10-09-2012, 07:58 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? It appears that TSA has more power than your State authorized Troopers. TX State Troopers only have power within the State of TX. TSA can set up checkpoints where ever they want to within the borders of the U.S. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-09-2012, 08:00 AM	#9
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,917	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? Shoeless truckdrivers....Never thought I'd see it........ __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

10-09-2012, 08:08 AM	#10
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,747	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? The article is almost two years old and so far, no check points.

10-09-2012, 08:27 AM	#12
RYANINMICHIGAN V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 223	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? None here. Border patrol tried this **** and it did not go over well.

10-09-2012, 08:28 AM	#13
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,406	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? red brick has a higher background radiation output than cinder block or wood.. etc...

10-09-2012, 08:39 AM	#15
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,406	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? and trained or civil unrest..

10-09-2012, 08:41 AM	#16
Blackhawk Dave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 593	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? I've been stopped down towards the border by the state troopers. Quick "you y'all doin" and a glance in the van and we were gone. Minor annoyance. I did get ticked off by the state doing a stop on a highway for a friggin' survey about how we used the highway. Dimwits! The answer is, no, you can't look in my car, no, no, no. You got a warrant?

10-09-2012, 11:59 AM	#18
FlashBang V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 200	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? The TSA does not now, nor have they ever had, any law enforcement powers. They are nothing more then security guards for airports. I will not stop for a TSA checkpoint and if they were to force me off the road, attempt to open my vehicle door or remove me from my vehicle, I will treat them the same as any other car jacker in full accordance and justification under Texas Law.

10-09-2012, 12:07 PM	#19
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,110	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? They cause enough problems in the airport, don't need them cluttering up the roads too. On my trip a couple weeks ago, I never wanted to punch a TSA guy so badly before; there were two lines waiting to go thru the scanners, one was less obvious as it was further away and was a shorter line. This one TSA dude motioned for some folks to go to the other shorter line and said "Come on folks, head over there, it's OK. I'm not as intimidating as I look." I stared at him in disbelief, what a clown. And no guy, you're not intimidating at all. You rank up there with mall security as far as I'm concerned. What a D-bag. OH, and did you guys hear about the cancer patient who got raped over by TSA the other day? heard it on the radio this morning, this is the first article that popped up about it in Google I could find: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/c...rport-17434042 they contaminated the IV she had, freakin' idiots. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-09-2012, 12:09 PM	#20
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-bus...etting-up.html As part of an ongoing terrorism prevention and response program, the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security hosted a statewide exercise on October 18-20, 2011. TSA participated through its Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response program. The exercise focused on improving the communications and operating relationships of state, local, and federal agencies when responding to any type of homeland security situation. TSA VIPR personnel participated at multiple locations in the Tennessee exercise, supporting state and local personnel as they inspected vehicles to identify potential security threats. In addition, Transportation Security Officers were in attendance to provide information including a leaflet to truck drivers at weigh stations about TSA’s First Observer program that encourages drivers to report potentially suspicious activity or items they see on the road. TSA officers did not physically screen drivers during this exercise as erroneously reported. The actual vehicle inspections were conducted by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol just the same as they are done every day. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-09-2012, 01:01 PM	#22
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? I would tell them to get lost. Last time I dealt with TSA I almost punched the guy and I was heading home from the Army. I was discharged without any civi's so I went home in PT shirt and Shorts and running shoes with that cheap backpack they gave me when I enlisted. I had my DD214 on me and they flat out pulled me aside and radioed me in seeing if I was deserting!!! I had my DD214 and my ID's on me! __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

10-09-2012, 01:02 PM	#23
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,406	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? depends on the isotope.. 244 80mys.. 238..88ys big difference..

10-09-2012, 04:27 PM	#24
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: How will you handle a TSA check point? i have a T shirt 9 convictions for improper touching will you be number 10 ? got it when this TSA BS first started looking forward to wearing it through your customs with my air travel notices ( should be doozies by now)