BOB or GHB

[soundguy]

Originally Posted by carver

If you are walking, something has happed! Did you just run out of gas? Not if you are taking the route of the crow! 29 miles as the crow flies, might turn into 60 miles as the man walks, unless you can fly! If your car is no longer running, and you didn't run out of gas, (EMT) then probably nobody's car is running. So they are out walking to! Now the woods are crowded, and you need to seek cover, and move quitely so you won't be found by others. 29 miles as the crow flies has just become an ordeal that could last up to a week! Opps, I forgot, you didn't prepare for water, so you never made it home!

EXACTLY!

simple emergency? yeah right.. when is an emergency simple..

being prepaired is the best defense.

being minimally prepaired means you live just a little bit longer than the guy that wasn't prepaired at all. Hopefully leaving a good fire starter or other usefull items on your corpseso that those of us that are prepaired, when we find you.. can scavange it.. if the others didn't pick it clean already..

[carver]

Originally Posted by soundguy

Simple emergency? Yeah right.. when is an emergency ever simple.

being prepaired is the best defense.

I like it, but I did take liberties with some of what you had to say!

If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of my wife, and children. Since my responsibility is to them, then I have to make very sure that I am around to provide, and protect, them! I can't do that if I haven't given thought to, and prepared for, just about anything I can think of!

[soundguy]

no, i agree with you entirely. that 29 mile walk home might turn into 60 miles and a week.. if at all.

I completely agree.

my simple emergency comment was to the OP. ( hard to communicate well typing.. )

[carver]

I understood! When I said that I took liberty with some of what you posted, I meant that I made some small changes. Capitalized a couple of words, and added one. You, and I, are on the same page.

[gun runner]

Its always a good idea to keep a gun in the vehicle especially if you get broken down in the middle of nowhere. Also a cb radio is another thing I would have too

[aa1911]

CB's are pretty handy, need to get one back in the truck.

I wouldn't leave a long gun (or any gun) in the vehicle all the time, cars get jacked or busted into way too often for me to take a risk like that. But I'd for certain have one anytime I'm out of the house, I just take it in the house when I get home. I always have at least my two handguns and usually I'm running around with either a shotgun or rifle, sometimes all the above.

Firepower! it's a wonderful thing

[aa1911]

Originally Posted by soundguy

hey.. isn't ghb the acronym for some kind of drug? bet some drug agency is pickin gup on keywords here and wondering WTF!?

or Great Highland Bagpipes....

every time I see GHB that's what I think of first... then, oh yeah, Get Home Bag, duh.

or the old punk band GBH...

[RYANINMICHIGAN]

So when is enough, enough? Everyone says I will be dead in my truck cause I don't have any water. There is water everywhere around here. You have no idea what my experience or training is how can you say that is my out come? It is just as easy to say you guys carry to much stuff as it is for you to tell me I don't have enough.

[carver]

Water water everywhere, but not a dop to drink!

[RYANINMICHIGAN]

Plenty of clean water in Michigan. Ever been here?

[aa1911]

too much is better than not enough, I'm just overly prepared and the few times I've needed to call on my backup plan, I was more than thankful for everything I had.

I frequently am 30+ miles from any cell reception by myself out in the cascades, so I keep my rigs stocked with enough stuff to survive a breakdown, a bad unexpected storm, an injury, whatever.

I also push myself too far most days when I'm hunting especially, there's plenty of times where my body is completely crushed, dehydrated, and a little extra water/food can be a game changer. Heck, even after a good hard workout in the summer, driving home and being stuck for a couple hours, I easily could go through a half gallon of fluid or more.

everyone has a different level or sense of what they 'need', some have nothing and most of the time that's fine. But I was a good boy scout, so I keep some basics on hand in my vehicles. I don't have a GHB really, but just some 'just in case' stuff.

[RYANINMICHIGAN]

What I carry varys based on the condition I am traveling in. I do not have a need for 200 rounds of .223, 10 gallons of water, 12 MREs, and a flask of holy water to make it home from work everyday. When I am deer hunting up north the list gets longer as there are more variables. But to say I will die in my truck is nothing short of stupid.

[marlin795]

Over prepared or not? The water and rest of the food is in the truck.

[marlin795]

Originally Posted by aa1911

too much is better than not enough, I'm just overly prepared and the few times I've needed to call on my backup plan, I was more than thankful for everything I had.

I frequently am 30+ miles from any cell reception by myself out in the cascades, so I keep my rigs stocked with enough stuff to survive a breakdown, a bad unexpected storm, an injury, whatever.

I also push myself too far most days when I'm hunting especially, there's plenty of times where my body is completely crushed, dehydrated, and a little extra water/food can be a game changer. Heck, even after a good hard workout in the summer, driving home and being stuck for a couple hours, I easily could go through a half gallon of fluid or more.

everyone has a different level or sense of what they 'need', some have nothing and most of the time that's fine. But I was a good boy scout, so I keep some basics on hand in my vehicles. I don't have a GHB really, but just some 'just in case' stuff.

I'm a Eagle Scout myself. I live by "Be prepared."

[soundguy]

Originally Posted by aa1911

too much is better than not enough, .

yep.

ask a carpenter.

is it beter to cut a board an inch too long or an inch too short! easy to trim an inch off.. hard to trim an inch back on.


if I'm carrying too much survival gear and have to ditch some along the way.. so be it.

if I don't have enough and hit a snag... that's a problem!

[aa1911]

and doubtful you're gonna die if you don't carry a ton of stuff, but it sure makes life a lot easier when caught in a pinch. And like said, although I carry a minimum all the time, if I'm going far or for long or way back, I plus up quite a bit. Camping gear, vehicle recovery stuff, lots more food/water, more guns/ammo, etc...

My pistol bag which lives in my truck, has about 300-500 rounds in it at any time, about 150 of those are sitting loaded in magazines plus the 3 mags on my person. Got a camelbak, a couple quart water bottles and a gallon of dH2O, medical bag, lots of tools... fleece jacket, rain gear.... extra socks/shoes...

flares, orange vest, headlamp, flashlight, chemlights, jumper cables, torque wrench/breaker bar, tow strap and clevis's, MRE's... compass, lighters, electrical tape, duct tape, 550 cord, trash bags... dang, my truck is a mobile AAA/repair shop!

I guess my advantage to just having all that junk on the seatback pockets and on the floor in the rear of my cab makes it harder to steal than having all that stuff in a GHB! hahaa...

you'd need a shopping cart to get away with all that crap. probably could get like 1 or 2mpg's better without that stuff too, oh well...

[soundguy]

agreed.

and to the poster who mentioned that we don't know your skills.. that's correct. we are making assumptions based upon an average of the population. my comments were not specifically targeting YOU as being dead on the side of the road.. but as a general population that is unprepaired. None of 'them' are here to put in a comment.. so i used your comment as a proxy

But yeah. if 'you' are some special forces, BB, seal, ranger.. etc.. etc.. then yeah.. I expect you can run off into the woods naked when the SHTF and then find one of us prepaired guys and .. um.. misappropriate our stuff as needed..