New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle - The Firearms Forum

JohnnyFlake · 10-11-2012, 05:40 PM

This morning I happened to watch a program that my son records, because he cannot watch it in real time. I believe it's called "Guns & Gear".

Anyway, one of the featured items was a new, Ruger SS .357 Bolt Action Rifle. Overall the rifle is really short. I am not sure of the barrel length but I am thinking 16". It has the Ruger Round Magazine.

It looks interesting and they fired it for the visual experience. They were touting it as a 100yd gun for Hogs, Pigs, wolves and Deer.

Has anyone seen this or have any knowledge about this gun?

aa1911 · 10-11-2012, 05:49 PM

pretty cool new gun they got, had not heard of it until you mentioned this.

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html

bluesea112 · 10-11-2012, 05:56 PM

If it were semi-auto I could see how it might be practical since it is short. However, a .357 is way too light for hogs/pigs or wolves. A short range scenario usually means the animal will be running or will be in brush. A bolt action is not well suited for either of those situations because you only have one shot.
If the animal is standing still, then a bolt action 30-06 would be a better choice.

time2shoot · 10-11-2012, 06:00 PM

I know of a .357 maximum. that was developed at one time.
But i think TC is the only one that makes one now.

gdmoody · 10-11-2012, 09:02 PM

I had one of them (just like the picture above) except mine was a .44 magnum, that I bought used about 5 or 6 years ago. That is one of those guns that I kick myself for getting rid of. It was a sweet shooting little rifle, I had a problem with the bolt acting up, it did not want to close right. That is the only reason I sold / traded it off. I haven't looked at the link yet, but the one I had used a 4 round rotary magazine, kinda like the 10/22.

Albtraum · 10-11-2012, 10:13 PM

Ruger M77.

http://youtu.be/cso2AXHdCOg

Description of the M77/357 @ 1:05 and a demonstration by a shooter starts at 2:52 Interesting to see how the left hand shooter shoots the right hand bolt action. Almost seems like the proper way.

Bindernut · 10-11-2012, 10:33 PM

I've got a 77/22 in 22lr, and have fired the 77/22Hornet and the 77/44. They're sweet handling little carbines.

A .357 carbine would suit my purposes better than the .44 and yes, it's plenty good enough for deer too if you use common sense with range & shot placement.
Load it up with Sierra 170gr JHPs or your favorite 180gr cast lead bullet and take it after deer.
I do like the little Marlin lever guns in the revolver calibers though...those are super little carbines too.

As for being able to work the bolt fast enough for follow up shots...it can be done easily with most bolts. My favorite for fast bolt work are the cock-on-closing Mausers but a good SMLE is just as slick. Cock on open actions might slow ya down a bit compared to cock on close but enough to prevent a quick follow up shot.

I've tried running the bolt with my off-hand but it just isn't as natural for me as the guy in the vid makes it look. It works with short actions, but with a long-action you will punch yourself in the snout.

I still prefer the old reach across trick. With iron sights, there's no scope to get in the way and the bolt handle is right there without dropping the rifle off my shoulder. With a scoped rifle, I do cant the rifle away from me when I'm reaching for the bolt handle but the butt never leaves my shoulder. I grew up a lefty that learned to shoot with righty actions. Have only had one left-hand action in my entire life and it wasn't worth the extra cash I spent on it.

Albtraum · 10-11-2012, 10:56 PM

never tried a different way than taking my trigger hand off and going straight to the bolt handle. I can't stop watching that guy shoot, it's pretty awesome. Seemslike that should be the proper way a bolt action should work. I dunno...

Appliancedude · 10-12-2012, 12:39 AM

I want one

45nut · 10-12-2012, 09:03 AM

I prefer a lever action .357 carbine instead of a bolt. If Ruger truly wants to present us with a quick handling fast carbine, why not bring back the 44 magnum semi auto carbine and also make it in .357?

Because they fear it would be used in a murder and since Ruger supported Clinton's gun ban.

Sandman · 10-12-2012, 09:57 AM

Many people kill deer with a .357 at 100 yards with a barrel much shorter than 16 inches, so I think it would be fine. I would also be perfectly comfortable using it on hogs.

Snakedriver · 10-12-2012, 10:03 AM

Sweet little rifle, but my Rossi '92 lever action in .357 mag caliber holds 10 rounds and is dead-on accurate out at 100 yards. Oh, by the way, I paid a little under $200 back when I got it. This new Ruger seems high at just over $800, even for stainless steel.

JLA · 10-12-2012, 08:35 PM

They got em in .44 mag too. They are easy 200 yd guns. Aimed at a stronger more reliable replacement for leverguns as brush guns.

Who doesnt love a pistol caliber carbine.

JohnnyFlake · 10-13-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA

They got em in .44 mag too. They are easy 200 yd guns. Aimed at a stronger more reliable replacement for leverguns as brush guns.

Who doesnt love a pistol caliber carbine.

Wouldn't one of theses in .454 Casull/.45 Colt be really exciting?

JLA · 10-13-2012, 08:00 PM

Indeed it would but IF I was gonna go that far id go all the way with a .500 mag Bolt gun.

10-11-2012, 05:40 PM	#1
JohnnyFlake V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Henderson, Nevada Contributor Posts: 152	New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle This morning I happened to watch a program that my son records, because he cannot watch it in real time. I believe it's called "Guns & Gear". Anyway, one of the featured items was a new, Ruger SS .357 Bolt Action Rifle. Overall the rifle is really short. I am not sure of the barrel length but I am thinking 16". It has the Ruger Round Magazine. It looks interesting and they fired it for the visual experience. They were touting it as a 100yd gun for Hogs, Pigs, wolves and Deer. Has anyone seen this or have any knowledge about this gun? __________________ Of All The Things I have Lost During My Life, I Miss My Mind The Most! -->

10-11-2012, 05:49 PM	#2
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle pretty cool new gun they got, had not heard of it until you mentioned this. http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-11-2012, 05:56 PM	#3
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle If it were semi-auto I could see how it might be practical since it is short. However, a .357 is way too light for hogs/pigs or wolves. A short range scenario usually means the animal will be running or will be in brush. A bolt action is not well suited for either of those situations because you only have one shot. If the animal is standing still, then a bolt action 30-06 would be a better choice. Last edited by bluesea112; 10-11-2012 at 05:57 PM..

10-11-2012, 06:00 PM	#4
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,601	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle I know of a .357 maximum. that was developed at one time. But i think TC is the only one that makes one now. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

10-11-2012, 09:02 PM	#5
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,354	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle I had one of them (just like the picture above) except mine was a .44 magnum, that I bought used about 5 or 6 years ago. That is one of those guns that I kick myself for getting rid of. It was a sweet shooting little rifle, I had a problem with the bolt acting up, it did not want to close right. That is the only reason I sold / traded it off. I haven't looked at the link yet, but the one I had used a 4 round rotary magazine, kinda like the 10/22. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

10-11-2012, 10:13 PM	#6
Albtraum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 635	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle Ruger M77. http://youtu.be/cso2AXHdCOg Description of the M77/357 @ 1:05 and a demonstration by a shooter starts at 2:52 Interesting to see how the left hand shooter shoots the right hand bolt action. Almost seems like the proper way.

10-11-2012, 10:33 PM	#7
Bindernut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ND, USA Posts: 2,453	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle I've got a 77/22 in 22lr, and have fired the 77/22Hornet and the 77/44. They're sweet handling little carbines. A .357 carbine would suit my purposes better than the .44 and yes, it's plenty good enough for deer too if you use common sense with range & shot placement. Load it up with Sierra 170gr JHPs or your favorite 180gr cast lead bullet and take it after deer. I do like the little Marlin lever guns in the revolver calibers though...those are super little carbines too. As for being able to work the bolt fast enough for follow up shots...it can be done easily with most bolts. My favorite for fast bolt work are the cock-on-closing Mausers but a good SMLE is just as slick. Cock on open actions might slow ya down a bit compared to cock on close but enough to prevent a quick follow up shot. I've tried running the bolt with my off-hand but it just isn't as natural for me as the guy in the vid makes it look. It works with short actions, but with a long-action you will punch yourself in the snout. I still prefer the old reach across trick. With iron sights, there's no scope to get in the way and the bolt handle is right there without dropping the rifle off my shoulder. With a scoped rifle, I do cant the rifle away from me when I'm reaching for the bolt handle but the butt never leaves my shoulder. I grew up a lefty that learned to shoot with righty actions. Have only had one left-hand action in my entire life and it wasn't worth the extra cash I spent on it. Last edited by Bindernut; 10-11-2012 at 10:36 PM..

10-11-2012, 10:56 PM	#8
Albtraum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 635	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle never tried a different way than taking my trigger hand off and going straight to the bolt handle. I can't stop watching that guy shoot, it's pretty awesome. Seemslike that should be the proper way a bolt action should work. I dunno...

10-12-2012, 12:39 AM	#9
Appliancedude Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The true northern Cal Posts: 1,562	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle I want one __________________ It ain't broke it just lacks duct tape. The nice thing about opinions is everybody has one.

10-12-2012, 09:03 AM	#10
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle I prefer a lever action .357 carbine instead of a bolt. If Ruger truly wants to present us with a quick handling fast carbine, why not bring back the 44 magnum semi auto carbine and also make it in .357? Because they fear it would be used in a murder and since Ruger supported Clinton's gun ban. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

10-12-2012, 09:57 AM	#11
Sandman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 552	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle Many people kill deer with a .357 at 100 yards with a barrel much shorter than 16 inches, so I think it would be fine. I would also be perfectly comfortable using it on hogs.

10-12-2012, 10:03 AM	#12
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle Sweet little rifle, but my Rossi '92 lever action in .357 mag caliber holds 10 rounds and is dead-on accurate out at 100 yards. Oh, by the way, I paid a little under $200 back when I got it. This new Ruger seems high at just over $800, even for stainless steel. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision Last edited by Snakedriver; 10-12-2012 at 10:07 AM..

10-12-2012, 08:35 PM	#13
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle They got em in .44 mag too. They are easy 200 yd guns. Aimed at a stronger more reliable replacement for leverguns as brush guns. Who doesnt love a pistol caliber carbine. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

10-13-2012, 08:00 PM	#15
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: New Ruger .357 Bolt Action Rifle Indeed it would but IF I was gonna go that far id go all the way with a .500 mag Bolt gun. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!