Driving with loaded gun in vehicle

gun runner · 10-10-2012, 08:48 AM

I dont know if this is the right section of the forum, Im sorry if it isnt but is it legal in Texas? When Im driving around the farm, I always carry me my loaded rifle with me either in the vehicle or atv. Never did on the highways though. Does anybody know?

Im talking about a rifle. Not a handgun.

Oh yeah, I know the mods dont like having to move threads but I figured this was the right section of the forum since I figured The right to keep and bear arms.

carver · 10-10-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gun runner

I dont know if this is the right section of the forum, Im sorry if it isnt but is it legal in Texas? When Im driving around the farm, I always carry me my loaded rifle with me either in the vehicle or atv. Never did on the highways though. Does anybody know?

Im talking about a rifle. Not a handgun.

Oh yeah, I know the mods dont like having to move threads but I figured this was the right section of the forum since I figured The right to keep and bear arms.

Yep! It's legal now, didn't used to be, but the laws have changed.

gun runner · 10-10-2012, 09:00 AM

Thanks for that info.

al45lc · 10-10-2012, 09:11 AM

The Texas law states and restricts "handgun"(s) specifically, and seems to be silent on restrictions of rifles and shotguns in Motor vehicles, without reference to condition. (loaded or unloaded, or cased for that matter)
It is NOT uncommon in the west for this to be so, particularly in rural areas, however some municipalities do restrict loaded rifles and shotguns, so you must look at local restrictions as well.
Here on Colorado, we don't restrict rifles and shotguns in MOST areas EXCEPT when in engaged in Big game hunting, a nannyist restriction for those hunters of less than good sense.

carver · 10-10-2012, 09:11 AM

You are welcome! Rifle, shotgun, or pistol, are all OK, so long as they meat federal requirements. Just don't get caught with an illegal knife in the vehicle! A is the key.
A. any knife with a blade over five and one half inches
B. hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown
C. dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard
D. bowie knife
E. sword
F. spear
G. machete

We have to work on this, and it is being done right now. My survival knife is a Bowie, and I use it when camping. What farmer, or rancher, doesn't carry a machete in the truck? These laws are draconian, and must be changed. Just like the laws about not having a fire arm in the vehicle. We got that changed about a dozen years ago. One word of caution though, here in TX the law that allows you to carry a rifle, shotgun, or pistol in your car, are not worded clearly, and controversy has arisen because of that. It seams that there are those that would like to keep guns away from everyone, and they argue that if the gun can be seen, it is illegal, and is tantamount to disorderly conduct. So keep it out of sight!

gun runner · 10-10-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

You are welcome! Rifle, shotgun, or pistol, are all OK, so long as they meat federal requirements. Just don't get caught with an illegal knife in the vehicle! A is the key.
A. any knife with a blade over five and one half inches
B. hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown
C. dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard
D. bowie knife
E. sword
F. spear
G. machete

What if you bought a new set of butcher and steak knifes for the kitchen?

carver · 10-10-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gun runner

What if you bought a new set of butcher and steak knifes for the kitchen?

Just show the cop the receipt, and tell him you are on your way home.

45nut · 10-10-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

A. any knife with a blade over five and one half inches
B. hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown
C. dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard
D. bowie knife
E. sword
F. spear
G. machete
These laws are draconian, and must be changed. Just like the laws about not having a fire arm in the vehicle. We got that changed about a dozen years ago.

It's always been legal to have a loaded longarm in your vehicle in Texas. When Charles Whitman started shooting from the tower, Texans pulled their 30-30's, .243's and 30-06's out of their trucks and returned fire. Really!

Gotta love Texas!

What changed was having a loaded handgun in your vehicle. Now, as long as the handgun is concealed, it is legal. Before you had to worry about the "travel" exemption and that the LEO wouldn't haul you in. Because of the change, now people can be safe without a CHL.

I have a machete, hatchet, USMC Camillus fighting knife in my truck. My machete and hatchet is in a box behind my truck seat that locks down and I can't open it while driving. So, I feel safe there. My Camillus knife is in my door pocket and might get me into trouble, but too bad. I'm not going to knuckle under to every stoopid law.

aa1911 · 10-10-2012, 11:39 AM

long guns are illegal to have loaded in a vehicle here in WA, even handguns cannot be loaded in the vehicle (on your person in the vehicle anyway) without a CCW. kinda sucks but sounds like TX is good in that dept.

Deputy Dawg · 10-10-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

long guns are illegal to have loaded in a vehicle here in WA, even handguns cannot be loaded in the vehicle (on your person in the vehicle anyway) without a CCW. kinda sucks but sounds like TX is good in that dept.

That is one of the many thing that I like about Texas.

aa1911 · 10-10-2012, 02:24 PM

I might be moving there next year for a bit (if I get picked for the job, fingers crossed), I've no doubt it will be a good experience!

My only gripe is that TX doesn't allow open carry, is that right?

carver · 10-10-2012, 03:12 PM

No open carry in TX, but it's (supposed to be) legal in LA. LA law states that your car is an extention of your home. Therefore you may carry a gun, loaded, anywhere in the car you want to. Stick that rifle in a truck gun rack in the rear window, it's OK by the law. If you leave it there, well, you probably won't own it long!

gvw3 · 10-10-2012, 05:11 PM

In Illinois we are lucky they let US in our cars. They only allow this so we can pay our taxes...

Sig Willy · 10-10-2012, 05:54 PM

You said driving around the farm so that's your property? I don't know what laws dictates what you can carry on your own property.

Insulation Tim · 10-10-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

In Illinois we are lucky they let US in our cars. They only allow this so we can pay our taxes...

Interesting. I drive from SW Ohio to visit my son, DIL and Grandson in Fayetteville, AR. I have an Ohio CCL but am very sqeemish when a portion of the trip takes us through Southern IL. I assume that I always needed to unload my Ruger LCP and lock the ammo in the back. Is that not so?

jedwil · 10-10-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Insulation Tim

Interesting. I drive from SW Ohio to visit my son, DIL and Grandson in Fayetteville, AR. I have an Ohio CCL but am very sqeemish when a portion of the trip takes us through Southern IL. I assume that I always needed to unload my Ruger LCP and lock the ammo in the back. Is that not so?

This thread started about Texas laws. Not sure there are any relevant/trustworthy posts about IL law. I'm just glad I can avoid that state.

carver · 10-11-2012, 01:21 AM

IL, one of the few states I've never been in. There are several that I have no intentions of ever going to.

ampaterry · 10-11-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

IL, one of the few states I've never been in. There are several that I have no intentions of ever going to.

The wife and I were both born in central IL, and lived there until we married and moved to Alaska. Returned there five years later and stayed for about ten years before moving to TN.

Selling your home in IL and re-investing in a home in another state does NOT exempt you from IL Capital Gains Tax.
We had to pay on the ENTIRE appreciation of our home in IL during the huge land-boom they had back in the 70's. A nice going away present from the Land of Lincoln.

IL is a great place to be from.
Far from.

hogger129 · 10-11-2012, 10:13 AM

It's legal here in Wisconsin now to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle, but it's gotta be out of plain sight and you have to have a conceal carry permit to do it.

lilmule · 10-11-2012, 02:09 PM

Regardless of legality,its wise to let them know,and keep hands where clearly can be seen.
How would you like to proceed officer,and if he desires to be the only one armed dont take offense.Most are polite,some cautious,some nervous,those are the ones that worry me.Avoid the word gun,newbie pard will only hear that.

gun runner · 10-12-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sig Willy

You said driving around the farm so that's your property? I don't know what laws dictates what you can carry on your own property.

I meant other places. What about a loaded revolver?

gun runner · 10-12-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lilmule

Regardless of legality,its wise to let them know,and keep hands where clearly can be seen.
How would you like to proceed officer,and if he desires to be the only one armed dont take offense.Most are polite,some cautious,some nervous,those are the ones that worry me.Avoid the word gun,newbie pard will only hear that.

Probaly more trigger happy.

oldfartrr · 10-12-2012, 01:33 PM

be glad u dont live calif !!!! i have had my CCW since 1970
i live in northern calif and when i go to visit the kids in the bay area i get to drive thru 5 counties,, three of them i am illegal in because they dont recognize my CCW because it is from a different county then the one i am driving thru !!! driving thru diff states is easier then driving in the state i currently live in.
ya should see the shxx i stir when i go to the range on my motorcycle with a couple rifles strapped on the back

will be moving soon

armedandsafe · 10-12-2012, 06:29 PM

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ya should see the shxx i stir when i go to the range on my motorcycle with a couple rifles strapped on the back

When i lived in San Diego, I would take off about once a month to go up to Anza to shoot with friends. I would ALWAYS get stopped by Deputies along the way. After the first couple of times the first question became "What have you got along this time?"

I'd end up spending 15 to 30 minutes talking guns and ammo.

Pops

gvw3 · 10-12-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Insulation Tim

Interesting. I drive from SW Ohio to visit my son, DIL and Grandson in Fayetteville, AR. I have an Ohio CCL but am very sqeemish when a portion of the trip takes us through Southern IL. I assume that I always needed to unload my Ruger LCP and lock the ammo in the back. Is that not so?

You are correct. Case it and have ammo out. Place ammo in other case or box in trunk of car. Its a big deal in this state to have a loaded gun in your car....gvw

10-10-2012, 08:48 AM	#1
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Driving with loaded gun in vehicle I dont know if this is the right section of the forum, Im sorry if it isnt but is it legal in Texas? When Im driving around the farm, I always carry me my loaded rifle with me either in the vehicle or atv. Never did on the highways though. Does anybody know? Im talking about a rifle. Not a handgun. Oh yeah, I know the mods dont like having to move threads but I figured this was the right section of the forum since I figured The right to keep and bear arms. --> Last edited by gun runner; 10-10-2012 at 08:53 AM..

10-10-2012, 09:00 AM	#3
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle Thanks for that info.

10-10-2012, 09:11 AM	#4
al45lc Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: colorful colorado Posts: 1,016	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle The Texas law states and restricts "handgun"(s) specifically, and seems to be silent on restrictions of rifles and shotguns in Motor vehicles, without reference to condition. (loaded or unloaded, or cased for that matter) It is NOT uncommon in the west for this to be so, particularly in rural areas, however some municipalities do restrict loaded rifles and shotguns, so you must look at local restrictions as well. Here on Colorado, we don't restrict rifles and shotguns in MOST areas EXCEPT when in engaged in Big game hunting, a nannyist restriction for those hunters of less than good sense. __________________ You are what you do, when it counts.

10-10-2012, 09:11 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle You are welcome! Rifle, shotgun, or pistol, are all OK, so long as they meat federal requirements. Just don't get caught with an illegal knife in the vehicle! A is the key. A. any knife with a blade over five and one half inches B. hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown C. dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard D. bowie knife E. sword F. spear G. machete We have to work on this, and it is being done right now. My survival knife is a Bowie, and I use it when camping. What farmer, or rancher, doesn't carry a machete in the truck? These laws are draconian, and must be changed. Just like the laws about not having a fire arm in the vehicle. We got that changed about a dozen years ago. One word of caution though, here in TX the law that allows you to carry a rifle, shotgun, or pistol in your car, are not worded clearly, and controversy has arisen because of that. It seams that there are those that would like to keep guns away from everyone, and they argue that if the gun can be seen, it is illegal, and is tantamount to disorderly conduct. So keep it out of sight! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 10-10-2012 at 09:24 AM..

10-10-2012, 11:39 AM	#9
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,110	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle long guns are illegal to have loaded in a vehicle here in WA, even handguns cannot be loaded in the vehicle (on your person in the vehicle anyway) without a CCW. kinda sucks but sounds like TX is good in that dept. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-10-2012, 02:24 PM	#11
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,110	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle I might be moving there next year for a bit (if I get picked for the job, fingers crossed), I've no doubt it will be a good experience! My only gripe is that TX doesn't allow open carry, is that right? __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-10-2012, 03:12 PM	#12
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle No open carry in TX, but it's (supposed to be) legal in LA. LA law states that your car is an extention of your home. Therefore you may carry a gun, loaded, anywhere in the car you want to. Stick that rifle in a truck gun rack in the rear window, it's OK by the law. If you leave it there, well, you probably won't own it long! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-10-2012, 05:11 PM	#13
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,241	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle In Illinois we are lucky they let US in our cars. They only allow this so we can pay our taxes... __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

10-10-2012, 05:54 PM	#14
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle You said driving around the farm so that's your property? I don't know what laws dictates what you can carry on your own property. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

10-11-2012, 01:21 AM	#17
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle IL, one of the few states I've never been in. There are several that I have no intentions of ever going to. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-11-2012, 10:13 AM	#19
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle It's legal here in Wisconsin now to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle, but it's gotta be out of plain sight and you have to have a conceal carry permit to do it. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

10-11-2012, 02:09 PM	#20
lilmule V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Buchanan,Tn Posts: 50	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle Regardless of legality,its wise to let them know,and keep hands where clearly can be seen. How would you like to proceed officer,and if he desires to be the only one armed dont take offense.Most are polite,some cautious,some nervous,those are the ones that worry me.Avoid the word gun,newbie pard will only hear that.

10-12-2012, 01:33 PM	#23
oldfartrr V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: northern calif Posts: 292	Re: Driving with loaded gun in vehicle be glad u dont live calif !!!! i have had my CCW since 1970 i live in northern calif and when i go to visit the kids in the bay area i get to drive thru 5 counties,, three of them i am illegal in because they dont recognize my CCW because it is from a different county then the one i am driving thru !!! driving thru diff states is easier then driving in the state i currently live in. ya should see the shxx i stir when i go to the range on my motorcycle with a couple rifles strapped on the back will be moving soon