Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! - The Firearms Forum

ShawnDow · 10-13-2012, 07:50 AM

So.. I just got some Mil-Surp.. Stripper clips for my SKS...

I cleaned the the "blood"

cosmoline off of them, now... what's the best maintenance practice for theses things so they won't rot as they sit around with rounds stacked on them?
Thanks in advance,
Shawn Dow

carver · 10-13-2012, 08:26 AM

A light oiling should do the trick. Be sure not to soak them, just a light coating.

GunHugger · 10-13-2012, 08:47 AM

As carver said but be sure to NOT use a penetrating oil. It can ruin primers.

Brisk44 · 10-13-2012, 11:12 AM

Stripper Clips ???? Don't they use those to hold on their pasties ?

ShawnDow · 10-13-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisk44

Stripper Clips ???? Don't they use those to hold on their pasties ?

I think you might have something there! I said this could get X rated!

ShawnDow · 10-13-2012, 12:32 PM

I was thinking spraying it down with rem oil and wiping it off?

GunHugger · 10-13-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnDow

I was thinking spraying it down with rem oil and wiping it off?

That'll work.

ShawnDow · 10-13-2012, 07:03 PM

That was simple!

Jim K · 10-13-2012, 07:23 PM

I get a kick out of the way those things clang when they pop out; darned near like the M1 clip.

Jim

targetacqmgt · 10-13-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisk44

Stripper Clips ???? Don't they use those to hold on their pasties ?

Having been in the Navy I have NO idea what you are talkin about

I get erked when someone calls a magazine a "clip" I just see some DI making the offender do a LOT of pushups for that error

25yretcoastie · 10-13-2012, 07:32 PM

But the clip is used to load the magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!

targetacqmgt · 10-13-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 25yretcoastie

But the clip is used to load the magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly-what he said.

ShawnDow · 10-13-2012, 08:07 PM

Correct.. its a stamped spring steel strap that holds.. in this case 10 rounds,.. when placed above the opened breach (which exposes the "box magazine" ) it fits into a groove cut in the bolt carrier.. allowing you to rapidly push (10) rounds down into the box magazine... Ill post a pic tomorrow afternoon... after work.

GunHugger · 10-13-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by targetacqmgt

Having been in the Navy I have NO idea what you are talkin about

I get erked when someone calls a magazine a "clip" I just see some DI making the offender do a LOT of pushups for that error

Marlin used to call them both...just to be safe.

Hawg · 10-13-2012, 09:45 PM

I still call magazines clips more often than not. Sometimes I do it just to irk people that I know it irks.

ShawnDow · 10-16-2012, 10:29 AM

OK.. time for pics! Note, empty stripper "CLIP". Stacked stripper "CLIP" and the stripper "CLIP" in place in the bolt carrier. There is a set of notches milled in the carrier to receive the "CLIP" once in place... push the stack down into the "MAGAZINE"
So... Did we get the terms straight?

Just a side note here.. My Type 56 SKS does not hold on to the stripper clip in the magazine like an M-1 Garand will with the EnBloc "CLIPS"... so I don't get the cool "Piong!" sound when final round empties.

targetacqmgt · 10-16-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GunHugger

Marlin used to call them both...just to be safe.

Well I reckon that covers BOTH market segments ie military and civilian

targetacqmgt · 10-16-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ShawnDow

OK.. time for pics! Note, empty stripper "CLIP". Stacked stripper "CLIP" and the stripper "CLIP" in place in the bolt carrier. There is a set of notches milled in the carrier to receive the "CLIP" once in place... push the stack down into the "MAGAZINE"
So... Did we get the terms straight?

Just a side note here.. My Type 56 SKS does not hold on to the stripper clip in the magazine like an M-1 Garand will with the EnBloc "CLIPS"... so I don't get the cool "Piong!" sound when final round empties.

Yup got in one. Talk to or read some old WWII vets accounts of that "pong"- it means you are reloading in the middle of a firefight sooo the enemy pours on the fire and may even "rush" your position to overrun it while you are reloading. The WWII and Korean vets figured that one out quick. They kept and extra "empty clip and Ponged in to the ground while STILL having ammo left and when the enemy tried to rush them while They thought the GI were out of ammo- well they never made the mistake again because they were dead.

ShawnDow · 10-16-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by targetacqmgt

Yup got in one. Talk to or read some old WWII vets accounts of that "pong"- it means you are reloading in the middle of a firefight sooo the enemy pours on the fire and may even "rush" your position to overrun it while you are reloading. The WWII and Korean vets figured that one out quick. They kept and extra "empty clip and Ponged in to the ground while STILL having ammo left and when the enemy tried to rush them while They thought the GI were out of ammo- well they never made the mistake again because they were dead.

I've heard that.. carrying an empty one to make the "point" sound, it when they in fact have full magazines... kinda sneaky!

targetacqmgt · 10-16-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnDow

I've heard that.. carrying an empty one to make the "point" sound, it when they in fact have full magazines... kinda sneaky!

In combat your are either sneaky AND quick or you are DEAD. There is only one rule IMO the survial of your squad (the men and women you serve with) and maintaining SOME modicum of humanity after the fighting is over. The last is the hardest to do afterall you have taken human life. Some may have actually got to liken that concept. That is were sanity leaves you and you become an animal not human. OR you feel so bad about butchering the people you kill when you come "home" you do not want to be around people any more. Lot of fellas and lady combat veterans are homeless in part for that feeling.

terryu1 · 10-17-2012, 08:46 AM

I also have heard that from some who were fortunate enough to return from Europe. I bet who ever figured that out saved thousands of lives (and costing and untold amount of German casualities)

Jim K · 10-17-2012, 07:24 PM

Sorry, guys, that business about the "ping" of the M1 clip is nonsense, apparently concocted by some armchair general. The idea that a clip noise could be heard over the sound of battle, that the enemy soldier would then charge the American whose rifle is empty, etc. is ridiculous! Are they alone on a silent battlefield?

FWIW, even I (1950's draftee) can reload an M1 long before an enemy soldier could take his first steps, and those WWII vets were really fast. I watched one load a fresh clip almost before the empty one hit the ground.

So, please don't spread that silly old story any further.

And on an SKS, you don't wait until the ten rounds are fired for the "ping". Just strip the rounds into the magazine and the slingshot the bolt carrier handle and you will hear a very satisfactory ping. (No, you don't pull the clip out after stripping the rounds, any more than you do with a Mauser or an M1903 Springfield; the bolt moving forward kicks the clip out and away.)

Jim

ShawnDow · 10-17-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim K

Sorry, guys, that business about the "ping" of the M1 clip is nonsense, apparently concocted by some armchair general. The idea that a clip noise could be heard over the sound of battle, that the enemy soldier would then charge the American whose rifle is empty, etc. is ridiculous! Are they alone on a silent battlefield?

FWIW, even I (1950's draftee) can reload an M1 long before an enemy soldier could take his first steps, and those WWII vets were really fast. I watched one load a fresh clip almost before the empty one hit the ground.

So, please don't spread that silly old story any further.

And on an SKS, you don't wait until the ten rounds are fired for the "ping". Just strip the rounds into the magazine and the slingshot the bolt carrier handle and you will hear a very satisfactory ping. (No, you don't pull the clip out after stripping the rounds, any more than you do with a Mauser or an M1903 Springfield; the bolt moving forward kicks the clip out and away.)

Jim

Jim K, you just made me stop and think

... And I rarely stop to think too long... Darn ADD...

So if I understand you correctly, when the bolt / carrier locks back after last round ejection (talking about the type 56 SKS) ... I understand, one puts said full stripper clip in the cool notches of the carrier... and push the stack of bullets down into the box mag...
But your not suppose to pull the silly clip out?

(that would have been my assumption) so just pull back the charging handle and the closing of the bolt will expel the stripper clip?
Now.. won't this damage the stripper clip? Or will the stripper clip be reusable?
Thanks for the clarification.
Shawn

Jim K · 10-17-2012, 07:46 PM

Those SKS clips are pretty tough and will last for many cycles. If you, an American civilian, in peacetime, on a range, choose to remove a stripper clip manually, you can certainly do so. But in combat, clips (of all kinds) are expendable and no one would take the time to carefully remove and preserve them.

Jim

ShawnDow · 10-17-2012, 07:52 PM

Wow.. See what happens to "permanently disqualified from all branches of services" simpletons like me.. we loose out on some interesting experiences and education! I would have never thought of leaving the silly thing in place and just re-racking the bolt after charging the mag well.
Thanks for the info.

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10-13-2012, 08:47 AM	#3
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Brisk44 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,747	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! Stripper Clips ???? Don't they use those to hold on their pasties ?

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ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! I was thinking spraying it down with rem oil and wiping it off? __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

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ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! That was simple! __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

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Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! I get a kick out of the way those things clang when they pop out; darned near like the M1 clip. Jim

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25yretcoastie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fort Pierce Fl Posts: 557	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! But the clip is used to load the magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-13-2012, 08:07 PM	#13
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! Correct.. its a stamped spring steel strap that holds.. in this case 10 rounds,.. when placed above the opened breach (which exposes the "box magazine" ) it fits into a groove cut in the bolt carrier.. allowing you to rapidly push (10) rounds down into the box magazine... Ill post a pic tomorrow afternoon... after work. __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

10-13-2012, 09:45 PM	#15
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,584	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! I still call magazines clips more often than not. Sometimes I do it just to irk people that I know it irks.

10-16-2012, 10:29 AM	#16
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! OK.. time for pics! Note, empty stripper "CLIP". Stacked stripper "CLIP" and the stripper "CLIP" in place in the bolt carrier. There is a set of notches milled in the carrier to receive the "CLIP" once in place... push the stack down into the "MAGAZINE" So... Did we get the terms straight? Just a side note here.. My Type 56 SKS does not hold on to the stripper clip in the magazine like an M-1 Garand will with the EnBloc "CLIPS"... so I don't get the cool "Piong!" sound when final round empties. Attached Images __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

10-17-2012, 08:46 AM	#21
terryu1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NE Pennsylvania Contributor Posts: 1,265	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! I also have heard that from some who were fortunate enough to return from Europe. I bet who ever figured that out saved thousands of lives (and costing and untold amount of German casualities) __________________ ARMED INFIDEL

10-17-2012, 07:24 PM	#22
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! Sorry, guys, that business about the "ping" of the M1 clip is nonsense, apparently concocted by some armchair general. The idea that a clip noise could be heard over the sound of battle, that the enemy soldier would then charge the American whose rifle is empty, etc. is ridiculous! Are they alone on a silent battlefield? FWIW, even I (1950's draftee) can reload an M1 long before an enemy soldier could take his first steps, and those WWII vets were really fast. I watched one load a fresh clip almost before the empty one hit the ground. So, please don't spread that silly old story any further. And on an SKS, you don't wait until the ten rounds are fired for the "ping". Just strip the rounds into the magazine and the slingshot the bolt carrier handle and you will hear a very satisfactory ping. (No, you don't pull the clip out after stripping the rounds, any more than you do with a Mauser or an M1903 Springfield; the bolt moving forward kicks the clip out and away.) Jim

10-17-2012, 07:46 PM	#24
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! Those SKS clips are pretty tough and will last for many cycles. If you, an American civilian, in peacetime, on a range, choose to remove a stripper clip manually, you can certainly do so. But in combat, clips (of all kinds) are expendable and no one would take the time to carefully remove and preserve them. Jim

10-17-2012, 07:52 PM	#25
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Stripper clips... I hope this isn't X rated! Wow.. See what happens to "permanently disqualified from all branches of services" simpletons like me.. we loose out on some interesting experiences and education! I would have never thought of leaving the silly thing in place and just re-racking the bolt after charging the mag well. Thanks for the info. __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!