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robman2629 · 10-17-2012, 11:17 AM

Im looking to get some walkie talkies and a set of binos or a range finder. Anyone use these products and have suggestions? I was looking at midland walkie talkies that come with headsets and car chargers. Also, I'm looking at a Nikon laser range finder. Ive never used one before but am looking for anything to make my first deer hunting experience easier.

carver · 10-17-2012, 11:23 AM

I don't use the FRS radios, or the walkie talkies. Some one will key up just as you have spotted a trophy deer, and are waiting for that perfect shot. The head phones will limit your ability to hear game movemnet. I do use binoculars, and the range finder isn't a bad idea if you don't have much experience in judging range. What will be hunting with?

robman2629 · 10-17-2012, 11:42 AM

The biggest thing is I'll be hunting with a group of people and we will all be in different locations. Ill be using a 30-06.

Double D · 10-17-2012, 03:05 PM

I wonder how the walkies get their range ratings. I had a few sets in the shop that I sold that had a 18 mile range or more on them but I swear if you had a tree in between you and the other guy, you had interference. I couldnt get a mile or two out of them unless you were completely unobstructed.

gdmoody · 10-17-2012, 03:10 PM

I agree with carver, just about the time you get a bead on the biggest deer you have ever seen, you buddy will break and say "You seen anything yet?" and your deer will be gone, never to be seen again!

aa1911 · 10-17-2012, 04:27 PM

many places it's illegal to use radios to 'locate' game anyway. They would be nice to have for some cases but I don't want it squawking as I'm taking a trophy kill shot. I'm generally on my own during hunting season anyway. If you do go with a radio, find one that can use an earbud; a full headset is annoying and you won't wear it but an earbud is silent outside of your ear and fairly comfortable for all day use.

Binos with a built in range finder would be ideal instead of having two separate devices but if I had to pick one it would be the binos. 10x or higher for me.

carver · 10-17-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I wonder how the walkies get their range ratings. I had a few sets in the shop that I sold that had a 18 mile range or more on them but I swear if you had a tree in between you and the other guy, you had interference. I couldnt get a mile or two out of them unless you were completely unobstructed.

They are tested under ideal conditions. Get up high with a long distance to the horizon, and key that FRS radio! It will talk 18 miles! Put that same radio on the ground, with buildings, and trees between the two radios, and you'll be lucky to talk a mile! I once had a CB radio, 3 watt output, and I talked 80 miles to a guy in Fresno, CA. I was on a mountain over looking the whole valley! Hand held CB's won't do any better, the short antena won't let you get out more than a mile, and much less than that if you are in your car. An outside antena hooked up to that 3 watt hand held will work the same as any other 3 watt CB radio.

carver · 10-17-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by robman2629

The biggest thing is I'll be hunting with a group of people and we will all be in different locations. Ill be using a 30-06.

Have everyone agree to meet at a specific place, and at a specific time. That's the way we did it at the hunting camp. Walk out to the road to get a ride back to camp. If you missed your ride, there would be another one at sundown.

gvw3 · 10-17-2012, 06:18 PM

Don't forget a compass. A $5 compass has kept me out of trouble for many years.

wv hillbilly · 10-17-2012, 06:39 PM

i have a set of 5 channel midland that dad bought in the 70s. we used them when he and i would turkey hunt. never for deer huntting.
the had a listing of a 5 mile range. that may have been over open water, but not in the forest. they each used 8 aa batteries
i could take one in a car and drive ALMOST 1 mile from the house and we could communicate. any farther, no

robman2629 · 10-18-2012, 08:07 AM

Ive been looking at binos with a rangefinder and compass in it, but the area my gf is taking me is brand new to me. I have never really read a compass before, I just walk until I find something I recognize. I know they bring radios out there for communication, I am able to survive outdoors overnight as I have done in the past. I have a couple extra layers on me to keep me going.

carver · 10-18-2012, 08:19 AM

If you decide to get the compass, and I highly recomend one, then you must turst it. No matter that you think the compass isn't working right, trust it. Another form of navigation that you might want to look into is a GPS device. The one I own is the eTrex: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=87768

howlnmad · 10-18-2012, 12:39 PM

We use a good commercial brand radio system (can't remember the brand, they belong to a friend). There are 4 of us and two use one channel and two use another. No one talks first, you key the mike and wait for a reply. If you don't get one, your partner is watch something and you keep waiting. If it's clear he'll answer.

carver · 10-18-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by howlnmad

We use a good commercial brand radio system (can't remember the brand, they belong to a friend). There are 4 of us and two use one channel and two use another. No one talks first, you key the mike and wait for a reply. If you don't get one, your partner is watch something and you keep waiting. If it's clear he'll answer.

How do you know when your buddy keys up the mike?

aa1911 · 10-18-2012, 03:46 PM

breaks squelch, makes an audible sound.

a compass is a necessity I think, for sure should have (and use) one. And like said, TRUST your compass, it never lies (unless ya break it or hold it too close to metal)

My GPS has a bum switch on it so it doesn't work anymore, I just use map/compass. Mountains are so steep here, you can terrain associate easily most places also.

Sandman · 10-18-2012, 03:49 PM

For binos, buy good ones. Don't go cheap.

Country101 · 10-18-2012, 07:52 PM

My dad has a set of midland radios. For what they are, they are fine. Dont let the ratings fool you though. You might get 2 miles out of them. One set has a 36 mile range or whatever, but that's only if you have repeaters and all that stuff along with an FCC license to be legal. So basically, you will get 1-2 miles out of the radio in decent cover. Dont expect more. I think the set I will eventually get is about 80-90 bucks.

myfriendis410 · 10-18-2012, 09:13 PM

Get GOOD binos. You spend most of your time behind them. If you get a rangefinder get one with an inclinometer in it and use it. Radios are fine but so is a cell phone if you have reception. We use both and they are a help to cover more country.

10-17-2012, 11:17 AM	#1
robman2629 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 123	Hunting extras Im looking to get some walkie talkies and a set of binos or a range finder. Anyone use these products and have suggestions? I was looking at midland walkie talkies that come with headsets and car chargers. Also, I'm looking at a Nikon laser range finder. Ive never used one before but am looking for anything to make my first deer hunting experience easier. -->

10-17-2012, 11:23 AM	#2
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,547	Re: Hunting extras I don't use the FRS radios, or the walkie talkies. Some one will key up just as you have spotted a trophy deer, and are waiting for that perfect shot. The head phones will limit your ability to hear game movemnet. I do use binoculars, and the range finder isn't a bad idea if you don't have much experience in judging range. What will be hunting with? __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-17-2012, 11:42 AM	#3
robman2629 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 123	Re: Hunting extras The biggest thing is I'll be hunting with a group of people and we will all be in different locations. Ill be using a 30-06.

10-17-2012, 03:05 PM	#4
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,253	Re: Hunting extras I wonder how the walkies get their range ratings. I had a few sets in the shop that I sold that had a 18 mile range or more on them but I swear if you had a tree in between you and the other guy, you had interference. I couldnt get a mile or two out of them unless you were completely unobstructed. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

10-17-2012, 03:10 PM	#5
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,407	Re: Hunting extras I agree with carver, just about the time you get a bead on the biggest deer you have ever seen, you buddy will break and say "You seen anything yet?" and your deer will be gone, never to be seen again! __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

10-17-2012, 04:27 PM	#6
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,120	Re: Hunting extras many places it's illegal to use radios to 'locate' game anyway. They would be nice to have for some cases but I don't want it squawking as I'm taking a trophy kill shot. I'm generally on my own during hunting season anyway. If you do go with a radio, find one that can use an earbud; a full headset is annoying and you won't wear it but an earbud is silent outside of your ear and fairly comfortable for all day use. Binos with a built in range finder would be ideal instead of having two separate devices but if I had to pick one it would be the binos. 10x or higher for me. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-17-2012, 06:18 PM	#9
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,463	Re: Hunting extras Don't forget a compass. A $5 compass has kept me out of trouble for many years. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

10-17-2012, 06:39 PM	#10
wv hillbilly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: mountains of wv. Posts: 2,026	Re: Hunting extras i have a set of 5 channel midland that dad bought in the 70s. we used them when he and i would turkey hunt. never for deer huntting. the had a listing of a 5 mile range. that may have been over open water, but not in the forest. they each used 8 aa batteries i could take one in a car and drive ALMOST 1 mile from the house and we could communicate. any farther, no

10-18-2012, 08:07 AM	#11
robman2629 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 123	Re: Hunting extras Ive been looking at binos with a rangefinder and compass in it, but the area my gf is taking me is brand new to me. I have never really read a compass before, I just walk until I find something I recognize. I know they bring radios out there for communication, I am able to survive outdoors overnight as I have done in the past. I have a couple extra layers on me to keep me going.

10-18-2012, 08:19 AM	#12
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,547	Re: Hunting extras If you decide to get the compass, and I highly recomend one, then you must turst it. No matter that you think the compass isn't working right, trust it. Another form of navigation that you might want to look into is a GPS device. The one I own is the eTrex: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=87768 __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 10-18-2012 at 12:47 PM..

10-18-2012, 12:39 PM	#13
howlnmad Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harriman, Tn Contributor Posts: 2,637	Re: Hunting extras We use a good commercial brand radio system (can't remember the brand, they belong to a friend). There are 4 of us and two use one channel and two use another. No one talks first, you key the mike and wait for a reply. If you don't get one, your partner is watch something and you keep waiting. If it's clear he'll answer. __________________

10-18-2012, 03:46 PM	#15
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,120	Re: Hunting extras breaks squelch, makes an audible sound. a compass is a necessity I think, for sure should have (and use) one. And like said, TRUST your compass, it never lies (unless ya break it or hold it too close to metal) My GPS has a bum switch on it so it doesn't work anymore, I just use map/compass. Mountains are so steep here, you can terrain associate easily most places also. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-18-2012, 03:49 PM	#16
Sandman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 556	Re: Hunting extras For binos, buy good ones. Don't go cheap.

10-18-2012, 07:52 PM	#17
Country101 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dardanelle, AR Contributor Posts: 2,045	Re: Hunting extras My dad has a set of midland radios. For what they are, they are fine. Dont let the ratings fool you though. You might get 2 miles out of them. One set has a 36 mile range or whatever, but that's only if you have repeaters and all that stuff along with an FCC license to be legal. So basically, you will get 1-2 miles out of the radio in decent cover. Dont expect more. I think the set I will eventually get is about 80-90 bucks. __________________ Gainfully employed= shooting somebody elses bullets and getting paid for it Country101

10-18-2012, 09:13 PM	#18
myfriendis410 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lompoc California Posts: 552	Re: Hunting extras Get GOOD binos. You spend most of your time behind them. If you get a rangefinder get one with an inclinometer in it and use it. Radios are fine but so is a cell phone if you have reception. We use both and they are a help to cover more country. __________________ Life's too short to shoot an ugly gun.....