8mm Mauser question - The Firearms Forum

RunningOnMT · 10-17-2012, 09:57 PM

Have been considering the purchase of a Yugo M24/47. They call it an 8mm but then in parenthesis add 7.92. So I go to CTD and look for ammo. They have 8MM and 7.92 Kurz ammo. So does anyone know which of the two it would be?

Helix_FR · 10-17-2012, 10:16 PM

its a 8mm mauser so buy the ammo marked as 8mm mauser. the bullet diameter of the 8mm mauser is 7.92. 8mm kurz was a short round made for the automatic assault rifles.

Alpo · 10-17-2012, 10:35 PM

In this country it is usually called 8mm Mauser, or 8x57 Mauser. In other countries it is known as 7.92x57JS.

Helix is right. 7.92 Kurz (7.92 short) is NOT what you want.

RunningOnMT · 10-18-2012, 02:06 AM

Thank you gentlemen. Can you tell me anything about these rifles? I know they aren't K91's but are these generally good shooters?

Fast Forward · 10-18-2012, 08:09 PM

I have a Yugo Mauser,,,I found the Surplus Ammo out there will never let you be accurate ,,the Bullet weight and Powder are all over the Board,,,I started re-loading my own a short time ago and while i haven,t settled on a final round yet the rifle shoots great,,and i find they are built very solid

rice paddy daddy · 10-19-2012, 08:35 PM

Yugo M24/7 is a good rifle. If I didn't already have a K98k that's just the rifle I would buy.
My K98k is a Yugo capture/rework and really likes the Federal Power Shock. For accurate, full power hunting ammo, Norma can not be beat. Pricey, but worth it.

gdmoody · 10-19-2012, 10:12 PM

I have a Yugo M-48 and a Czech VZ-24, both of which are 8mm rifles. As Fast Forward mentioned, the accuracy with surplus ammo is acceptable, but definitely not 'tack drivers". I do not reload 8mm (yet) since there is still plenty of surplus ammo out there. Besides, I have enough surplus ammo to last me a few years, anyway!

The M24/47, the M48, and the VZ-24 rifle are all Mauser designed K98 type rifles and any one of them would serve you well. About the only difference in them is that the M48 has the "cupped" butt plate more like the K98 where the other two have a straight butt plate.

Don357 · 10-27-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gdmoody

About the only difference in them is that the M48 has the "cupped" butt plate more like the K98 where the other two have a straight butt plate.

Actually, the M48's bolt and reciever are approxamately 1/8 in shorter than the K98 and Vz rifles. It still uses the same ammo, but is just different enough to not allow substantial parts interchangability.

Fast Forward · 10-28-2012, 12:37 PM

I just added a Bold trigger to my M48 about 40.00 thru Boyds allmost a straight drop in,,a 1/2 hour with a Dremel to open up the inside of the stock and your ready to go,,,,as far as a good load for my Yugo
175Gr Sierra Spitzer
42Gr Winchester 748
3.01 overall length

jim brady · 10-29-2012, 12:17 PM

As everyone else has said, your rifle is 8X57 caliber. Most of the milsurp ammo that I've seen has been stored under less than optimum conditions, and those old primers never seem to be quite up-to-standard for consistency.

I managed to buy serveral sealed cases of 1935 and 1936 German 8X57 ball ammo very cheap from J&G Sales, and also some Turkisk suprlus ball ammo. The Turk stuff was sure-fire but really dirty shooting, and the German ammo primers were mostly hang-fire or misfires. Bought a couple hundred new Winchester 8X57 cases and primed them with modern Remington primers. Pulled the bullets and used the powder charges as-is and reloaded into the new cases. Pretty darned accurate results thru a K98K. Got rid of the corrosive primers - guys at the local Gun Show were eager to snap the old unfied cases up, even when I told them about the hang-fires and mis-fires. Go figure.

I've seen "Match" surplus 8mm ammo advertised, but I think that is mostly hype for ammo that had been stored properly.

soundguy · 10-29-2012, 01:01 PM

the german 7.92 you see at shows commonly in the slanted boxes.. 8mm mauser?

there's a guy that comes tothe local shows that has a huge wood crate full.. comes like 8-10 rnds each on 2 strillers in the slanted looking box.. and he's pracitcally giving them away for like 2$.. if it's 8mm mauser.. i need to buy a bunch..

Alpo · 10-29-2012, 01:38 PM

I don't know about "slanted boxes", but there are three German 7.92s (actually more, if you want to count the 7.92x57J, but let's skip it for now).

You got your 7.92x33, which was made for the MP44. Little short thingy. Kinda like 7.62x39.

You got yor 7.92x57, which was the standard military rifle and machine gun round. That's the one you want.

You also got the 7.92 x 56. This is for the 1895 Steyr. It was a "substitute standard" for the 3rd Reich. So there is a lot of Nazi-marked ammo for it around.

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/repeating...her-m95-e.html

Alpo · 10-29-2012, 01:40 PM

If you click on the third picture on that site, it blows up to show you a nice pic of a rifle next to a loaded clip. Clip is slanted. That might be why the box you mention is slanted. Two loaded clips in the box, maybe.

soundguy · 10-29-2012, 01:46 PM

yep.. looks like that.. which would be 8x56rimmed

I have a steyr in 8x56r.. I also have the harder to find 8x50r that was an odd one.. had to chambercast that one to figure out what i had many, many years ago.

10-17-2012, 09:57 PM	#1
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	8mm Mauser question Have been considering the purchase of a Yugo M24/47. They call it an 8mm but then in parenthesis add 7.92. So I go to CTD and look for ammo. They have 8MM and 7.92 Kurz ammo. So does anyone know which of the two it would be? __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" -->

10-17-2012, 10:16 PM	#2
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,622	Re: 8mm Mauser question its a 8mm mauser so buy the ammo marked as 8mm mauser. the bullet diameter of the 8mm mauser is 7.92. 8mm kurz was a short round made for the automatic assault rifles. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

10-17-2012, 10:35 PM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,658	Re: 8mm Mauser question In this country it is usually called 8mm Mauser, or 8x57 Mauser. In other countries it is known as 7.92x57JS. Helix is right. 7.92 Kurz (7.92 short) is NOT what you want. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

10-18-2012, 02:06 AM	#4
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: 8mm Mauser question Thank you gentlemen. Can you tell me anything about these rifles? I know they aren't K91's but are these generally good shooters? __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

10-18-2012, 08:09 PM	#5
Fast Forward Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chaska Minn Posts: 529	Re: 8mm Mauser question I have a Yugo Mauser,,,I found the Surplus Ammo out there will never let you be accurate ,,the Bullet weight and Powder are all over the Board,,,I started re-loading my own a short time ago and while i haven,t settled on a final round yet the rifle shoots great,,and i find they are built very solid

10-19-2012, 08:35 PM	#6
rice paddy daddy Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: on a dirt road in NE Florida Posts: 43	Re: 8mm Mauser question Yugo M24/7 is a good rifle. If I didn't already have a K98k that's just the rifle I would buy. My K98k is a Yugo capture/rework and really likes the Federal Power Shock. For accurate, full power hunting ammo, Norma can not be beat. Pricey, but worth it. __________________ "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill Member: VFW, American Legion, Vietnam Veterans of America, Society of the 5th Infantry Division

10-19-2012, 10:12 PM	#7
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,324	Re: 8mm Mauser question I have a Yugo M-48 and a Czech VZ-24, both of which are 8mm rifles. As Fast Forward mentioned, the accuracy with surplus ammo is acceptable, but definitely not 'tack drivers". I do not reload 8mm (yet) since there is still plenty of surplus ammo out there. Besides, I have enough surplus ammo to last me a few years, anyway! The M24/47, the M48, and the VZ-24 rifle are all Mauser designed K98 type rifles and any one of them would serve you well. About the only difference in them is that the M48 has the "cupped" butt plate more like the K98 where the other two have a straight butt plate. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

10-28-2012, 12:37 PM	#9
Fast Forward Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chaska Minn Posts: 529	Re: 8mm Mauser question I just added a Bold trigger to my M48 about 40.00 thru Boyds allmost a straight drop in,,a 1/2 hour with a Dremel to open up the inside of the stock and your ready to go,,,,as far as a good load for my Yugo 175Gr Sierra Spitzer 42Gr Winchester 748 3.01 overall length Attached Images

10-29-2012, 12:17 PM	#10
jim brady Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,072	Re: 8mm Mauser question As everyone else has said, your rifle is 8X57 caliber. Most of the milsurp ammo that I've seen has been stored under less than optimum conditions, and those old primers never seem to be quite up-to-standard for consistency. I managed to buy serveral sealed cases of 1935 and 1936 German 8X57 ball ammo very cheap from J&G Sales, and also some Turkisk suprlus ball ammo. The Turk stuff was sure-fire but really dirty shooting, and the German ammo primers were mostly hang-fire or misfires. Bought a couple hundred new Winchester 8X57 cases and primed them with modern Remington primers. Pulled the bullets and used the powder charges as-is and reloaded into the new cases. Pretty darned accurate results thru a K98K. Got rid of the corrosive primers - guys at the local Gun Show were eager to snap the old unfied cases up, even when I told them about the hang-fires and mis-fires. Go figure. I've seen "Match" surplus 8mm ammo advertised, but I think that is mostly hype for ammo that had been stored properly. Last edited by jim brady; 10-29-2012 at 12:19 PM..

10-29-2012, 01:01 PM	#11
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,436	Re: 8mm Mauser question the german 7.92 you see at shows commonly in the slanted boxes.. 8mm mauser? there's a guy that comes tothe local shows that has a huge wood crate full.. comes like 8-10 rnds each on 2 strillers in the slanted looking box.. and he's pracitcally giving them away for like 2$.. if it's 8mm mauser.. i need to buy a bunch..

10-29-2012, 01:38 PM	#12
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,658	Re: 8mm Mauser question I don't know about "slanted boxes", but there are three German 7.92s (actually more, if you want to count the 7.92x57J, but let's skip it for now). You got your 7.92x33, which was made for the MP44. Little short thingy. Kinda like 7.62x39. You got yor 7.92x57, which was the standard military rifle and machine gun round. That's the one you want. You also got the 7.92 x 56. This is for the 1895 Steyr. It was a "substitute standard" for the 3rd Reich. So there is a lot of Nazi-marked ammo for it around. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/repeating...her-m95-e.html __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

10-29-2012, 01:40 PM	#13
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,658	Re: 8mm Mauser question If you click on the third picture on that site, it blows up to show you a nice pic of a rifle next to a loaded clip. Clip is slanted. That might be why the box you mention is slanted. Two loaded clips in the box, maybe. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

10-29-2012, 01:46 PM	#14
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,436	Re: 8mm Mauser question yep.. looks like that.. which would be 8x56rimmed I have a steyr in 8x56r.. I also have the harder to find 8x50r that was an odd one.. had to chambercast that one to figure out what i had many, many years ago.