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76Highboy · 10-27-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jedwil

I hope you're joking about a 1000 yard shot on an animal for sport. Stick to paper at that range.

Ya, I agree. Too many animals are wounded because someone wants to try a long shot. It is not worth it.

76Highboy · 10-27-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hstout1143

You don't have bear hunting in Idaho?

Yes we do, but I can't hunt this year because of my weight restriction.

gun runner · 10-27-2012, 11:25 PM

I guess a 1000 yard shot is too far

Thanks for telling me. I guess that is too far. I dont want to wound an animal with a gun and let it run off like a deer or hog

aa1911 · 10-27-2012, 11:37 PM

I've had to chase 3 deer in my life and it ain't fun. I wouldn't even dream of engaging a game target at that distance. Maybe 600 but I would certainly hesitate on anything that far out. They will die eventually but if you can't find 'em, it's a big waste and makes me feel bad personally. Out of the 3 that didn't drop in their tracks, I only ever lost one and it was found by the neighboring hunting camp the following day so I've been lucky.

Another reason why I like my gas gun, I have 20 rounds to send very fast; even if you ruin some meat, 3 quarters is better than no quarters! bolt guns can be pretty quick but nothing beats semi auto for fast follow up shots.

Did a lot of hunting with a single shot growing up so always make that first one count but especially with elk and bear, they frequently need more than one smack. head shooting eliminates a lot of problems, a hit is death, a miss is just a miss, not a wound.

hstout1143 · 10-27-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

head shooting eliminates a lot of problems, a hit is death, a miss is just a miss, not a wound.

I hadn't thought of it like that. The only person I know that takes those shots is a friend that's a sniper on the L.A Sheriffs SWAT team. The first time he went hunting with us he asked where we shoot them, we said right behind the front leg. He said he would rather shoot them in the head and that's what he did. 370 yds off hand, standing. One shot to the head. I wish I had that much confidence in my shooting abilities. But if all you do is shoot all day long it's no big deal.

aa1911 · 10-28-2012, 12:53 AM

nothing more satisfying than watching a deer just simply drop and not move ever again with a good head shot. Boom and done. no chase, no hassle, no ruined meat. (I eat the heart, my favorite part of any animal). I hate watching a kill run away, even if it's only 50-100m. My dad taught me to head shoot from day one.

But have to admit, with iron sights at anything over 75-100m or a moving target, I will likely open fire on the vits to ensure some hits. Ballistic tips are amazing, they will wreck tissue like nothing else. Most of my head shots are at around 50-75m with a scoped rifle. Iron sights or longer distance I will hit behind the shoulder unless I'm afforded the time for a good shot at the nugget.

hstout1143 · 10-28-2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

Ballistic tips are amazing, they will wreck tissue like nothing else.

That's what I've been using for years. The deer I got this year was quartering away and my shot hit further back than I was aiming, cross wind, the ballistic tip hit the liver and destroyed everything. It made it about 120 yards before dying from massive blood loss. That's the furthest anything has ran that I've shot with ballistic tips.

B27 · 10-28-2012, 04:31 AM

I have no business shooting at any whitetail size target more than 200 yards away.
Luckily for me the woods I hunted were so thick that 75 yards was a long shot.

Hawg · 10-28-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

head shooting eliminates a lot of problems, a hit is death, a miss is just a miss, not a wound.

Not really, you could blow a deer's jaw off leaving it to die a very painful and slow death from starvation.

flintlock · 10-28-2012, 07:41 AM

I'm still hunting, just slower now. On the long range shots though I have a story about a friend of mine. He has a really large farm, raises soy beans and corn, so he has a nuisance deer problem. He gets a number of permits from Encon, and takes the problem deer through the year. Anyhow, the wood line is a measured 900 yards from the back of the house. One evening he sees a deer eating out there, gets his .308, and fires. His wife is watching the deer through a pair of binoculars. Next thing she says is "Great shot Hon, that turkey went right down." She meant it. In the time it took to take that shot, a large turkey had stepped between him and the deer. Unintended consequences, but a hell of a shot!

B27 · 10-28-2012, 07:55 AM

Great story.

Zhurh · 10-28-2012, 11:33 AM

Gun Runner, Just to show you how different world views can be, In rural Alaska, hunting is about fresh meat, not sport; comes from the Indian's influence on Nature's Purpose: to provide for man. In fact it's seen as a sacriledge of sorts not to take the questionable shot by the Indians; you shouldn't be playing around/enjoying killing animals; you just do it or maybe Nature might not give you a shot again.

I'm also intrigued by long shots, but rarely take them unless I have the 30-378 with me.
I never shoot at grizzly bear over 3-4 hundred yards, they often get away when at 800 yards. If you ever walked in after a grizz that's been hit in head high brush; you'd do the same too. WE have killed caribou at 550 yards with 6.8 stag and moose at 750 yards with the 7 mag. A few times we have caught bulls across the river and several of us started shooting and somebody made the kill shot, 800-1000 yards. Everybody in the village is happy, and helps bring moose out/cut up/share.

soundguy · 10-29-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by B27

I have no business shooting at any whitetail size target more than 200 yards away.
Luckily for me the woods I hunted were so thick that 75 yards was a long shot.

same here.. I have a hard time finding a clear shooting lane past 50-75 yards mostly.

MSGT-R · 10-29-2012, 09:49 AM

I see this, and I want to break out my skis!!

m77user · 10-29-2012, 05:53 PM

A temporary situation. I usually go to a friends to shoot a whitetail. 80 acres small but has both water and cover. Lots of farm land adjoining so no worries about neighbors, plus some of it belongs to his brother-in-law.

He called me earlier this week and said not to come over. Blue tongue had gotten almost all the whitetail last year and they have not recovered.

Good luck to all of you who go out.

RYANINMICHIGAN · 10-30-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Highboy

Yes we do, but I can't hunt this year because of my weight restriction.

What do you mean?

old semperfi · 10-30-2012, 05:05 PM

for me hunting is like getting an injection of some powerful mind altering drug.i do enjoy the venison but the woods seem to tell me things that i could never learn in the city.i receive a relaxation ill never get anywhere else.i think that god made the beautiful outdoors for us also to enjoy and i will for as long as he lets me. old asemperfi

10-27-2012, 11:25 PM	#28
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... I guess a 1000 yard shot is too far Thanks for telling me. I guess that is too far. I dont want to wound an animal with a gun and let it run off like a deer or hog Last edited by gun runner; 10-27-2012 at 11:28 PM..

10-27-2012, 11:37 PM	#29
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... I've had to chase 3 deer in my life and it ain't fun. I wouldn't even dream of engaging a game target at that distance. Maybe 600 but I would certainly hesitate on anything that far out. They will die eventually but if you can't find 'em, it's a big waste and makes me feel bad personally. Out of the 3 that didn't drop in their tracks, I only ever lost one and it was found by the neighboring hunting camp the following day so I've been lucky. Another reason why I like my gas gun, I have 20 rounds to send very fast; even if you ruin some meat, 3 quarters is better than no quarters! bolt guns can be pretty quick but nothing beats semi auto for fast follow up shots. Did a lot of hunting with a single shot growing up so always make that first one count but especially with elk and bear, they frequently need more than one smack. head shooting eliminates a lot of problems, a hit is death, a miss is just a miss, not a wound. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-28-2012, 12:53 AM	#31
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... nothing more satisfying than watching a deer just simply drop and not move ever again with a good head shot. Boom and done. no chase, no hassle, no ruined meat. (I eat the heart, my favorite part of any animal). I hate watching a kill run away, even if it's only 50-100m. My dad taught me to head shoot from day one. But have to admit, with iron sights at anything over 75-100m or a moving target, I will likely open fire on the vits to ensure some hits. Ballistic tips are amazing, they will wreck tissue like nothing else. Most of my head shots are at around 50-75m with a scoped rifle. Iron sights or longer distance I will hit behind the shoulder unless I'm afforded the time for a good shot at the nugget. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-28-2012, 04:31 AM	#33
B27 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 415	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... I have no business shooting at any whitetail size target more than 200 yards away. Luckily for me the woods I hunted were so thick that 75 yards was a long shot. __________________ "Do not stand beside the road and argue with a fool...lest others in passing take you also for a fool."

10-28-2012, 07:41 AM	#35
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... I'm still hunting, just slower now. On the long range shots though I have a story about a friend of mine. He has a really large farm, raises soy beans and corn, so he has a nuisance deer problem. He gets a number of permits from Encon, and takes the problem deer through the year. Anyhow, the wood line is a measured 900 yards from the back of the house. One evening he sees a deer eating out there, gets his .308, and fires. His wife is watching the deer through a pair of binoculars. Next thing she says is "Great shot Hon, that turkey went right down." She meant it. In the time it took to take that shot, a large turkey had stepped between him and the deer. Unintended consequences, but a hell of a shot!

10-28-2012, 07:55 AM	#36
B27 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 415	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... Great story. __________________ "Do not stand beside the road and argue with a fool...lest others in passing take you also for a fool."

10-28-2012, 11:33 AM	#37
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,819	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... Gun Runner, Just to show you how different world views can be, In rural Alaska, hunting is about fresh meat, not sport; comes from the Indian's influence on Nature's Purpose: to provide for man. In fact it's seen as a sacriledge of sorts not to take the questionable shot by the Indians; you shouldn't be playing around/enjoying killing animals; you just do it or maybe Nature might not give you a shot again. I'm also intrigued by long shots, but rarely take them unless I have the 30-378 with me. I never shoot at grizzly bear over 3-4 hundred yards, they often get away when at 800 yards. If you ever walked in after a grizz that's been hit in head high brush; you'd do the same too. WE have killed caribou at 550 yards with 6.8 stag and moose at 750 yards with the 7 mag. A few times we have caught bulls across the river and several of us started shooting and somebody made the kill shot, 800-1000 yards. Everybody in the village is happy, and helps bring moose out/cut up/share.

10-29-2012, 09:49 AM	#39
MSGT-R Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 900	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... I see this, and I want to break out my skis!! __________________ If you suck, go back to the range.

10-29-2012, 05:53 PM	#40
m77user V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 149	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... A temporary situation. I usually go to a friends to shoot a whitetail. 80 acres small but has both water and cover. Lots of farm land adjoining so no worries about neighbors, plus some of it belongs to his brother-in-law. He called me earlier this week and said not to come over. Blue tongue had gotten almost all the whitetail last year and they have not recovered. Good luck to all of you who go out.

10-30-2012, 05:05 PM	#42
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Anybody else given hunting?.... for me hunting is like getting an injection of some powerful mind altering drug.i do enjoy the venison but the woods seem to tell me things that i could never learn in the city.i receive a relaxation ill never get anywhere else.i think that god made the beautiful outdoors for us also to enjoy and i will for as long as he lets me. old asemperfi