considering a suppressor

[Maine04657]

Originally Posted by jce07a

talked to the guys from gem-tech, they told me their sealed cans for 5.56 were perfectly fine shooting .22lr. the guy i spoke with told me his personal can had over 10,000 rounds of .22lr and 5,000 rounds of 5.56 through it and hasnt had any sort of significant decrease in performance. i was also informed that you can soak a sealed can in cleaner designed for suppressors and it works just as well as cleaning a servicable one.

You where LIED to!!! They also made the outback for many years sealed saying there was no need to ever clean a 22 suppressor.

Will it work to quiet the firearm yes. Will it work as well as a 22 suppressor NO. Will the build up be more in the 5.56 can if you shoot 22lr YES. Can you use "the dip" to clean out lead from shooting 22lr in a sealed can YES. Remember "the dip" can ONLY be used on ALL STEEL cans it will eat aluminum cans. Ever the best cleaner out there will NOT remove all lead and fouling form shooting 22lr through a rifle can. Here are a few pictures of what builds up after a couple thousand round of 22lr this is one of MY suppressors. Please tell me how anything would clean this out of a SEALED can it is lead and carbon and hard as a rock.

Before you vote tomorrow Obama says he believes in the second he lied to.

FYI this is a MY PERSONAL GemTech outback2 I bought several years ago. It has been jailbroke to allow cleaning.





These are what they look like AFTER soda blasting.

[carver]

Originally Posted by Maine04657

What are you going to shoot?
Semi or bolt?
How much are you going to shoot? IE mag dumps out of the ar10 or 10 shots out of the bolt rifle every 3rd weekend?
And the BIG question how much do you wanna spend?

Haven't even begun to shop yet, so I don't really know what they sell for. However, I want quality, not junk! I have both a bolt gun, and a semi-auto, but was thinking about suppressing the bolt gun for hunting.

[ozo]

I just hate it when I see the panties getting knotted up !!!
Rodney King is dead......and our attitudes towards one
another surely sometimes proves it.
And it ain't just here....it is widespread. I still hate it.

[Maine04657]

Originally Posted by carver

Haven't even begun to shop yet, so I don't really know what they sell for. However, I want quality, not junk! I have both a bolt gun, and a semi-auto, but was thinking about suppressing the bolt gun for hunting.

As with any person new to the suppressor arena I recommend a quality 22lr suppressor for you first. This can be moved form any 22 pistol or rifle you have and will get allot of use.

[Liberty Suppressors]

Originally Posted by Maine04657

Ok bad information here. DO NOT use a 5.56/ 223 suppressor especially non serviceable ones in a 22lr! 22lr are VERY dirty if you put those rounds through a sealed 5.56 can your going to gunk it up.

If you want to buy a suppressor the best bang for your buck to start with is a USER SERVICEABLE ( take apart ) 22lr can. Do the research there is a difference between brands you want to get the one that does the best at what it does.

I own a outback ii mine has been jailbroke ( made user serviceable ) but it is a great suppressor though there are better choices. The more you plan on using it the more you need to clean it.

The "oil filter" thing is a bad idea for legal reasons.

A suppressor IS a firearm according to the ATF so you buy one you get the tax stamp and you can put it on any firearm you wish to. The only exception is if you want to avoid a two stamp SBR you can permanently attach the suppressor the the short barrel making it the legal 16" or more and then it woudl not be a SBR however then you woudl be unable to move the suppressor between weapons.

You can use a suppressor on any smaller caliber as long as it is within specks for pressure. Again do NOT use any sealed large caliber suppressor on a 22lr.

As for threads 22lr and 5.56 both use 1/2x28 as the standard. The issue is with LENGTH! Most 22lr threads are .400 the AR threads are .600. If your 22lr is threaded to long you will erode the blast baffle. These a GENERAL sizes the suppressor you buy will tell you what size ( remember thread size includes LENGTH ) you need to make it work best.

Also another note on caliber swapping. Suppressors have there bore cut to the caliber they are designed to work with. Using a suppressor with a larger then needed through hole will decrease the effectiveness of it.

Well said!