1905 Mosin Nagant - The Firearms Forum

lead · 11-06-2012, 12:11 PM

A pawn shop I visit occasionally got a 1905 Mosin Nagant rifle in recently. This one has me kinda confused.
The numbers on the receiver and bolt match, but they look way too good to be from 1905. The bluing on the bolt is almost perfect. The bore is very good, stock is clean, it all looks too good to be so old. The floor plate of the magazine and the butt plate have different numbers, but are also good.
It's also got all the hardware on the fore end it should have, but it seems a little shorter then a 91/30. Not carbine short, just a little shorter.
Unfortunatly, someone replaced the rear ladder sight and front post with standard front and rear sights from a hunting rifle.
They only want $119. for it, it really tempted me.
Do you think this is just a bubba'd rifle, or was there a rifle in 1905 that was a little shorter that wouldn't be worn out?

targetacqmgt · 11-06-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lead

A pawn shop I visit occasionally got a 1905 Mosin Nagant rifle in recently. This one has me kinda confused.
The numbers on the receiver and bolt match, but they look way too good to be from 1905. The bluing on the bolt is almost perfect. The bore is very good, stock is clean, it all looks too good to be so old. The floor plate of the magazine and the butt plate have different numbers, but are also good.
It's also got all the hardware on the fore end it should have, but it seems a little shorter then a 91/30. Not carbine short, just a little shorter.
Unfortunatly, someone replaced the rear ladder sight and front post with standard front and rear sights from a hunting rifle.
They only want $119. for it, it really tempted me.
Do you think this is just a bubba'd rifle, or was there a rifle in 1905 that was a little shorter that wouldn't be worn out?

What is the factory stamp on the receiver?? If short might be a Cav Carbine like the motorized regiment of WWII they had the M44.

lead · 11-06-2012, 06:07 PM

It's the pre 1926 Izhvezk(sp) stamp. All the rest is in Cyrillic and I'm not familiar enough with what to look for in that.

CHW2021 · 11-08-2012, 01:08 PM

If the bore is in good shape, how can you really go wrong? I mean, if you just end up with a shooting grade rifle for $119.00 it is still cheaper than a .22 and maybe is worth more as parts.

Buy it and then start hunting down the origins of the rifle.

11-06-2012, 12:11 PM	#1
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	1905 Mosin Nagant A pawn shop I visit occasionally got a 1905 Mosin Nagant rifle in recently. This one has me kinda confused. The numbers on the receiver and bolt match, but they look way too good to be from 1905. The bluing on the bolt is almost perfect. The bore is very good, stock is clean, it all looks too good to be so old. The floor plate of the magazine and the butt plate have different numbers, but are also good. It's also got all the hardware on the fore end it should have, but it seems a little shorter then a 91/30. Not carbine short, just a little shorter. Unfortunatly, someone replaced the rear ladder sight and front post with standard front and rear sights from a hunting rifle. They only want $119. for it, it really tempted me. Do you think this is just a bubba'd rifle, or was there a rifle in 1905 that was a little shorter that wouldn't be worn out? __________________ The best things in life, are not things. -->

11-06-2012, 06:07 PM	#3
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	Re: 1905 Mosin Nagant It's the pre 1926 Izhvezk(sp) stamp. All the rest is in Cyrillic and I'm not familiar enough with what to look for in that. __________________ The best things in life, are not things.

11-08-2012, 01:08 PM	#4
CHW2021 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 468	Re: 1905 Mosin Nagant If the bore is in good shape, how can you really go wrong? I mean, if you just end up with a shooting grade rifle for $119.00 it is still cheaper than a .22 and maybe is worth more as parts. Buy it and then start hunting down the origins of the rifle.