S&W Model Pre-? - The Firearms Forum

montezumaz · 11-09-2012, 06:18 PM

Just purchased a S&W .22 from my shooting buddy.
No model number on crane, adjustable rear sight, ramp front sight, 6" bbl, right side of bbl: "22 Long Rifle CTG" left side of bbl: "SMITH & WESSON" the "&" is elongated, right side of frame: 3 screws visible, one-line "MADE IN U.S.A." S/N K283X on butt, crane & cylinder; diamond grips; honest holster wear so condition is 90-95%.
Oh yes, paid $250 but I did try to pay him a lot more.

Alpo · 11-09-2012, 07:18 PM

You have a K22 made in 1947. Nice.

I need friends like that.

montezumaz · 11-09-2012, 07:28 PM

Thanks, Alpo! Any idea if this is a Pre-17 or maybe a pre-18?

Alpo · 11-09-2012, 08:44 PM

Certainly it's a "pre", since model numbers didn't start until 1957.

The 17 is the 22 version of the 38 Target Masterpiece. It came with a 6 or an 8 3/8" barrel and Patridge front sight. The 18 is the 22 version of the 38 Combat Masterpiece, and came with a 4" barrel and a ramp front sight.

According to the book, it's a "Pre-17", with that barrel length. But, also according to the book, it should have a Patridge front sight. If it has a ramp, either a previous owner switched it (which would decrease value to the collector) or it was a special order from Smith (which would increase value to the collector). If you are thinking about the value of it, it might be worthwhile to spend 50 bucks and get a factory letter. If it came from the factory with the wrong front sight, and you have a letter saying it came that way, it makes it worth more.

Alpo · 11-09-2012, 08:46 PM

Did you edit the serial number? I was pretty sure there were all numbers - no X - first time I saw this post.

Just curious.

montezumaz · 11-09-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpo

Did you edit the serial number? I was pretty sure there were all numbers - no X - first time I saw this post. Just curious.

I did inset the "X" for the last digit as an afterthought.
I may have to invest in another S&W letter to clear up the mystery. Since these have pinned barrels, it would be easy for a smith to trade-out barrels, but don't know why they would do that.
(I already have a 4" pre-18 with S&W letter.)

11-09-2012, 06:18 PM	#1
montezumaz Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Central AZ (Yavapai County) Posts: 653	S&W Model Pre-? Just purchased a S&W .22 from my shooting buddy. No model number on crane, adjustable rear sight, ramp front sight, 6" bbl, right side of bbl: "22 Long Rifle CTG" left side of bbl: "SMITH & WESSON" the "&" is elongated, right side of frame: 3 screws visible, one-line "MADE IN U.S.A." S/N K283X on butt, crane & cylinder; diamond grips; honest holster wear so condition is 90-95%. Oh yes, paid $250 but I did try to pay him a lot more. --> Last edited by montezumaz; 11-09-2012 at 07:37 PM..

11-09-2012, 07:18 PM	#2
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,770	Re: S&W Model Pre-? You have a K22 made in 1947. Nice. I need friends like that. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-09-2012, 07:28 PM	#3
montezumaz Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Central AZ (Yavapai County) Posts: 653	Re: S&W Model Pre-? Thanks, Alpo! Any idea if this is a Pre-17 or maybe a pre-18?

11-09-2012, 08:44 PM	#4
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,770	Re: S&W Model Pre-? Certainly it's a "pre", since model numbers didn't start until 1957. The 17 is the 22 version of the 38 Target Masterpiece. It came with a 6 or an 8 3/8" barrel and Patridge front sight. The 18 is the 22 version of the 38 Combat Masterpiece, and came with a 4" barrel and a ramp front sight. According to the book, it's a "Pre-17", with that barrel length. But, also according to the book, it should have a Patridge front sight. If it has a ramp, either a previous owner switched it (which would decrease value to the collector) or it was a special order from Smith (which would increase value to the collector). If you are thinking about the value of it, it might be worthwhile to spend 50 bucks and get a factory letter. If it came from the factory with the wrong front sight, and you have a letter saying it came that way, it makes it worth more. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-09-2012, 08:46 PM	#5
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,770	Re: S&W Model Pre-? Did you edit the serial number? I was pretty sure there were all numbers - no X - first time I saw this post. Just curious. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.