So you want to secede and you filled out a petition at the White House?

[markfh]

Be careful what you ask for. At this point in our history I wouldn't put it past this administration to actually try something like this.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html

[cycloneman]

I heard last night in Tx 27K had signed and by this morining it was over 61K in Tx.

[al45lc]

A petition for something only the Supreme Court can do?
Yeah, that will get traction.
Obama has NO authority for this, not even by executive order.

[RunningOnMT]

Once again, a petition requesting permission to secede is stupid. If anyone is serious about secession they should be locking and loading, not seeking permission.

[Zhurh]

Ya know, the Feds keep telling the local Indians how they are going to do this and that; the Indians give them a dumb look like they don't even understand what is being told to them and go on about their business in the manner they have always done what they do. The Feds have become so sick of dealing with the Indians, they leave them alone nowadays. They can't lock them all up, they all stick together, and pretty much tell the Feds to go pound salt.

Everything in America only functions through voluntary compliance or we have problems, turmoil & then upheaval; one thing the powers that be don't need to remain in power and continue their scam. Live your life, raise your kids, be happy and free; but don't start living in fear of the govt; they ain't that successful at whatever they attempt to do.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by markfh

Be careful what you ask for. At this point in our history I wouldn't put it past this administration to actually try something like this.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html

I'm not putting my name on anything that may incriminate me later.

[markfh]

Originally Posted by hogger129

I'm not putting my name on anything that may incriminate me later.

If you buy guns and fill out any paperwork they already know who you are.

[GunnyGene]

There's nearly 26 million people in Texas. Last I heard there were about 72K signed this thing, and probably half of them are still living in their parents basement. Nobody is going to take this seriously. Nobody. It's just a cow patty drying in the sun.

[carver]

The Guberment already knows who I am. They have know since about 1973. They can come for me anytime they get ready. I'll be here waiting for them.

[gun runner]

Do you folks actually believe this non sense? I didnt sign anything

[carver]

Originally Posted by gun runner

Do you folks actually believe this non sense? I didnt sign anything

If you have ever bought a gun, you signed for it. If you have served in the military, you signed for it. If you have a CCW, you signed for it. If you fall into any of the catorgies that I have listed, pluss a lot more that I didn't list, the you sir, are a domestic terrorist!

[gun runner]

I bought 10 rifles and 2 shotguns in less that a year so I guess so

[cycloneman]

do mestic terrorist, damestic terrorist, DUMESTIC TERRORIST, aaaaaaa domistic terrorist. hay you talking to me? domestic terrorist, terrorista, terror, terror, terror, you talking to me?

Kinda has a nice ring to it, dont ya think?

[GunnyGene]

According to the Daily Caller, there's a total of 675,000 signers to all these petitions. http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/wh...participation/ .

There's about 260,000,000 people that are eligible to sign, out of the 314,000,000 total US population (age 13 and up). That works out to about 0.2% that have a beef or are just getting their jollies. Not exactly overwhelming support for this nonsense. Especially since the Petitions.gov site allows the same person to sign more than one petition.

[al45lc]

Originally Posted by markfh

If you buy guns and fill out any paperwork they already know who you are.

True, but which THEY? It's one thing to get the attention of a low level flunky in one of many federal institutions, but a petition directly to the White House may garner one attention at the highest level, AND as a rabble rouser, whereas a 4473 only says you may or may not be one.
Kinda like kicking the king fink in the shins as oppossed to flipping him the finger as he goes by.

[gun runner]

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[Gun Geezer]

Originally Posted by Zhurh

Ya know, the Feds keep telling the local Indians how they are going to do this and that; the Indians give them a dumb look like they don't even understand what is being told to them and go on about their business in the manner they have always done what they do. The Feds have become so sick of dealing with the Indians, they leave them alone nowadays. They can't lock them all up, they all stick together, and pretty much tell the Feds to go pound salt.

Everything in America only functions through voluntary compliance or we have problems, turmoil & then upheaval; one thing the powers that be don't need to remain in power and continue their scam. Live your life, raise your kids, be happy and free; but don't start living in fear of the govt; they ain't that successful at whatever they attempt to do.

One of the biggies they ain't been successful at is justice. You could die in jail before they find you a public defender. I really believe there isn't an honest person in any form of government position. It's a sad day for America!

[45nut]

Originally Posted by markfh

If you buy guns and fill out any paperwork they already know who you are.

True, but why add your name to this list and put a larger target on your back? Makes no sense to me.

[tcox4freedom]

Just posted elsewhere by me-

If the FG were smart they would allow red states to form their own country. I'm more than convinced, something beneficial for all concerned can be worked out; "IF" the focus is placed on the right things.

For Instance:
We can focus on a peaceful citizen exchange where the new "Conservative States of America" can get all the "conservative" minded people that currently live in the more socialist areas of the country; and we can give them all the people that voted for Obama.

Obama gets his socialist nation where he can stay in power; and we get to keep a FREE "Constitutional" republic! Those that want the government to care for their every need will get their wish; and People who desire to be more "self-dependent" will be able to do so freely.

(Not to mention, a simple "citizen" exchange would do wonders for cities that have lost their workforce and have bad housing situations.)

It would give a much needed boost the the US economy by instantly decreasing the dependence of the VERY expensive entitlement programs. (It would absolutely save Social Security by taking MILLIONS off the rolls!)

By allowing the formation of the "Conservative States of America", it would give the USA additional import/export dollars and give them a strong & effective ally in this part of the world; while decreasing the military spending the administration wants to cut anyway. Selling military bases and government owned lands to the newly formed "Conservative States of America", would give the USA additional needed revenue to boost the economy.

There truly would be a lot of Win-Win for everyone concerned if they would take this seriously; and allow the "Red" states to "peacefully" secede. (If done right Obama would be considered a genius and would surely be inducted as the USA's POTUS Emeritus.)

It's really a win-win for everyone!