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ryan42 · 11-15-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by firefighter1635

I can positivly confirm that this is false. The only place a Drone could've been dispatched from is Springfield Air National Guard Base in Springfield Ohio. Though not far from Wright Patterson AFB. And that's a streatch, i'd have to find out if the drones are at Springfield Air National Guard in Springfield Ohio yet or not. But there are no drones at WPAFB.

It dont matter where a drone takes off from,they fly all over the place.I can tell you that the authorities already know what caused this.They did right off the bat they just are trying to figure out who to blame it on.Im not saying it was a missile but if it was they know if it was a gas leak or a missile or etc etc

soundguy · 11-15-2012, 05:55 PM

imho.. explosive residue is easy to discover / track. etc..

ryan42 · 11-15-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by soundguy

imho.. explosive residue is easy to discover / track. etc..

exactly.Just like when there is a house fire.They can always tell what started the fire and where it started.But when its arsen its not always easy to prove.

jjmitchell60 · 11-15-2012, 09:18 PM

Tell you what an arson investigater told the grad jury one time that I was sitting on it. He stated, "even if they KNOW it is arson, to get enough evidence for an arrest let alone a conviction is next to impossible." He went on to tell us that you can have an eye witness see a person set a fire with a can of gas and still not get enough for an arrest or conviction!

Now with that said, I still think IMHO it was a meth lab, a big operation, that blew. I am basing that on what pictures we have seen here in KY of other meth lab bl;asts and the fact the people were from an area of KY where there are MANY meth lab arrests! Now that is purely IMHO. The only other thing beside an explosive blast I have seen simular to that was the pictures of a HUGE moon shine still explosion, that still ran 10,000 gallons a week!!!!

firefighter1635 · 11-15-2012, 09:51 PM

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Tell you what an arson investigater told the grad jury one time that I was sitting on it. He stated, "even if they KNOW it is arson, to get enough evidence for an arrest let alone a conviction is next to impossible." He went on to tell us that you can have an eye witness see a person set a fire with a can of gas and still not get enough for an arrest or conviction!

Not to get off the subject here but this guy told you completely wrong. I've pulled irrefutable proof from burnt out buildings that have indeed sent people to prison. And it wasn't hard to do at all if you've the training and experience.

Rogeritall · 11-15-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CampingJosh

That's not what is being reported.

Apparently the man moved out quite a while ago; ex-wife and daughter live there. The daughter was spending the night at a friend's house, and ex-wife was with her boyfriend at a casino.

The fishy part is that the cat was being boarded. Cats do just fine being left alone for the weekend, so I don't know why someone would just randomly board the cat for one night.

Yeah, the people's story stinks to high heaven... I'll bet the authorities will get to the bottom of the story soon. The owner of the house was already complaining on the evening news about being "grilled" over and over by investigators. The really sad part is the blast killed two of the next door neighbors. If they can ever prove the blast was intentional it will be two counts of murder for whoever is responsible.

jjmitchell60 · 11-16-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by firefighter1635

Not to get off the subject here but this guy told you completely wrong. I've pulled irrefutable proof from burnt out buildings that have indeed sent people to prison. And it wasn't hard to do at all if you've the training and experience.

Might be where you luve but here in rural KY there is NO ONE trained enough to proof of arson! Heck we are lucky that we do not still have to rely on a bucket brigade! Our local fire dept. is so mired in debt and mismanagement that we might not have a fire dept. in a year. Sad too because we had one of the best fire depatrments in this area of KY up till last year.
Seriously, the arson investigaters here in Ky are so under funded and ill trained, they would need a viedow of some one committing arson to even get it in court and then a conviction would be near impossible.

As to teh blast, I still say meth lab being the couple kiled was from the part of KY where several BIG meth busts have been made.

AAofLot19 · 11-19-2012, 07:21 PM

This is now being investigated as a homicide, the law is searching for a white van seen in the area before the explosion.

11-19-2012, 08:03 PM

How is it if a drone with hellfire missles can nail 1 stinking terrorise through the 2'x2' windown in a mud hut in the middle of the Afgan mts. It just so happens to miss A giant office building and hits a home. RIGHTTTTTTT

Right the missles were fired from 50 miles to the south.

OK so the two places are 20 miles apart. The range on a Hellfire missle is 5 miles and the speed is Mach 1.3 (Or 950 mph).

So

1. How did the missles end up 20 miles away.
2. At 950 mph (stick with me here I am going to do math) D=rt Distance = Rate * Time.

Time = Rate/Distance so T= 950/20 = 47.5 seconds.

So how did WPAFB dispatch an A6 and catch this in that time.

Good lord if you believe this even happened you are dumber than you look.

Again range of the hellfire is ONLY 5 MILES. So tell me how they ended up 20 miles to the south?

AAofLot19 · 11-19-2012, 08:48 PM

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How is it if a drone with hellfire missles can nail 1 stinking terrorise through the 2'x2' windown in a mud hut in the middle of the Afgan mts. It just so happens to miss A giant office building and hits a home. RIGHTTTTTTT

Right the missles were fired from 50 miles to the south.

OK so the two places are 20 miles apart. The range on a Hellfire missle is 5 miles and the speed is Mach 1.3 (Or 950 mph).

So

1. How did the missles end up 20 miles away.
2. At 950 mph (stick with me here I am going to do math) D=rt Distance = Rate * Time.

Time = Rate/Distance so T= 950/20 = 47.5 seconds.

So how did WPAFB dispatch an A6 and catch this in that time.

Good lord if you believe this even happened you are dumber than you look.

Again range of the hellfire is ONLY 5 MILES. So tell me how they ended up 20 miles to the south?

Just updating the story here. I'm not on the conspiracy thing. My opinion is the homeowners hired someone to do it while they skipped town for the weekend.

mjp28 · 11-20-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AAofLot19

This is now being investigated as a homicide, the law is searching for a white van seen in the area before the explosion.

Yeah and everyone including the cat wasn't home, foul play? Want to bet on that one?

11-15-2012, 05:55 PM	#27
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,736	Re: blast in indianapolis imho.. explosive residue is easy to discover / track. etc..

11-15-2012, 09:18 PM	#29
jjmitchell60 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raised in Buzzard Roost near Frog Town in hillls of Kentucky Contributor Posts: 1,474	Re: blast in indianapolis Tell you what an arson investigater told the grad jury one time that I was sitting on it. He stated, "even if they KNOW it is arson, to get enough evidence for an arrest let alone a conviction is next to impossible." He went on to tell us that you can have an eye witness see a person set a fire with a can of gas and still not get enough for an arrest or conviction! Now with that said, I still think IMHO it was a meth lab, a big operation, that blew. I am basing that on what pictures we have seen here in KY of other meth lab bl;asts and the fact the people were from an area of KY where there are MANY meth lab arrests! Now that is purely IMHO. The only other thing beside an explosive blast I have seen simular to that was the pictures of a HUGE moon shine still explosion, that still ran 10,000 gallons a week!!!! __________________ Oath Keepers NOT ON OUR WATCH www.oathkeepers.org 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes Duty... Thomas Jefferson

11-19-2012, 07:21 PM	#33
AAofLot19 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 61	Re: blast in indianapolis This is now being investigated as a homicide, the law is searching for a white van seen in the area before the explosion. __________________ I think there is only one quality worse than hardness of heart and that is softness of head. Theodore Roosevelt

11-19-2012, 08:03 PM	#34
cpttango30 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Re: blast in indianapolis How is it if a drone with hellfire missles can nail 1 stinking terrorise through the 2'x2' windown in a mud hut in the middle of the Afgan mts. It just so happens to miss A giant office building and hits a home. RIGHTTTTTTT Right the missles were fired from 50 miles to the south. OK so the two places are 20 miles apart. The range on a Hellfire missle is 5 miles and the speed is Mach 1.3 (Or 950 mph). So 1. How did the missles end up 20 miles away. 2. At 950 mph (stick with me here I am going to do math) D=rt Distance = Rate * Time. Time = Rate/Distance so T= 950/20 = 47.5 seconds. So how did WPAFB dispatch an A6 and catch this in that time. Good lord if you believe this even happened you are dumber than you look. Again range of the hellfire is ONLY 5 MILES. So tell me how they ended up 20 miles to the south?