got a visit from the state police

[wv hillbilly]

i got a visit from the wv state police and the sheriffs deputy tonight.
i went down my driveway to check my mail and the picture below will show you what i saw.
i went through the trash and found a name several times. i tried to contact him. no listed phone #. i called my sister she didn't know his #.
tried to his girlfriend. couldn't get a hold of her. tried his ex wife. nope
called his mom . no answer.
i went to the fire dept. where they were holding a supper and there was his mom.
i asked her to step outside and explained to her that she needed to get in touch with her son about the garbage that blew of his truck . she told me to calm down that it was only a bag of trash.
i replied tel him !, and left
shortly after i got home i saw his mom picking up the trash and i went down to great her . she got snotty as hell , and i said make sure you pick up every piece.
that was fine till her son and his girl friend arrived.
make a long story short, the son came at me running with his hand raised and said i'll take care of YOU YOU SOB.
i backed up 3-4 steps and said DONT THREATEN ME. i backed up again and repeated the statement. he kept comming , i pulled my hand gun again while backing up and repeated DONT THREATEN ME.
his girlfriend steped in front of me to block me, the boys mom grabed him and told him to shut up while she called the police and told them i had pulled a gun.
since his mom had a hold of him i lowered my weapon and got in my car and went back home.
45 minutes later here came the police.
i asked them in, told them my side of the story, asked if i was in trouble , they said no. shooh hands with both and was told to have a good night and if there was any more problems to give them a call

[NRA_guy]

Watch your back. You probably have not seen the last of them.

[Alpo]

Next time, if there is a next time, you call the cops. Get your side of the story in first.

"Sumbich tried to attack me and I pulled a gun on him. His kin pulled him away, and there was no shooting, but I figgered I'd let y'all know".

Don't know how it is in WV, but here the cops would have arrested you for aggravated assault, and you could have had your lawyer fix it.

[JUNKKING]

Glad you got in no trouble. People can be pigs. My buddy tells people he lives a big mac large fries and a medium drink from McDonalds. He is constantly picking up empty McDonald bags from his yard. I told him to call the police as the pizza shops around here had to put their name and number on the box for this reason and they had to pick it up if called and go after the name on the box.

[woolleyworm]

Originally Posted by NRA_guy

Watch your back. You probably have not seen the last of them.

My sentiments exactly, you can't fix stupid and they've already proven their case. What in the world is up with people nowadays? They can't just clean up their own mess and be responsible and courteous?? I'm guessing the son was in his young 20's or so? Most of the younger generation needs 10 years of hard labor to know what hard work and responsibility means.

[gvw3]

Glad you had no problems with the cop's. Around here this is a real problem but we have no shortage of convicts they use to clean the streets.

[time2shoot]

glad you are safe, watch your back. watch for the late night visits

[aa1911]

when in doubt, just call it in; first one to call 911 or the sheriff's dept is likely gonna come out on top.

wouldn't be surprised if they pull some other crap like mail box baseball or some idiotic crap like that, keep a watchful eye!

Hopefully they learned their lesson though, good nobody got shot I guess. There's always garbage along the road in front of our house, constantly picking up lazy ignorant people's crap. Beer cans, food containers and just about anything else.

[Rogeritall]

If people like that had any brains they would just lick their wounds pick up their trash and forget about it. But, that's only if people like that had any brains... I hate it when people don't even try to show common respect...

[ponycar17]

The big sign at the dump that says, "TARP YOUR LOAD" doesn't mean much with most people around here either.

[aa1911]

I used to pick up all the trash I saw when running around the national forest here in the cascades but about 3 years ago I stopped. No matter how much I pick up, I go back and there's always more... and more...

even bushwhacking way back off of trails and roads, son of a bee otch if I don't find beer cans! It's like they're being sprinkled around the woods by aircraft, cripes. How hard is it to bring your trash with you, I mean, it's significantly lighter than when you brought it!

One day I will catch someone redhanded dumping trash in the forest, it will be a bad day for them.

There's a guy down the road from us that had people dumping their trash in his back 40 which butted up to the road and a nice convenient pull out, he put up a sign (that's still there after 2 years now!)

says "Dump trash here, and you will meet God!"

[Buckshot]

Originally Posted by aa1911

when in doubt, just call it in; first one to call 911 or the sheriff's dept is likely gonna come out on top.

+1. It's amazing how much weight the "first" story carries, all else being equal. As silly and unfair as it sounds, it can make all the difference. Whoever comes next has to not only give their version, but overcome the preconceptions created by the first story. Human nature. Be first, set the tone, get the facts on record. At that point BS usually has much less of a chance.

[WHSmithIV]

Always best to get your side in first. Glad you didn't have any repercussions though it may not be the last you see of them. Bag of trash blew out of my trailer on the way to the dump several weeks ago - I pulled over, walked back and picked it up. However, I keep an eye out on my load always.

Out here in Idaho it wouldn't have been a problem either way since I would've called the Sheriff immediately when I found out who's trash it was. 911 here goes to the County Sheriff anyway. I won't play games with stupid either way.

[Huck Finn]

Since you knew who the trash belonged to, why didn't you just call the cops, give them the evidence and let them handle it? You played cop on your own and ended up in a situation where you pulled a gun on someone over some scrap paper on the road. Maybe next time you'll handle it better...

[aa1911]

I spent about 5 hours or more with a firearms attorney not long ago and his advice based on personal/professional experience with the local prosecutors was be the first to call 911, it makes literally ALL the difference in far too many cases.

Sounds dumb but if it works, I'm all in. ANY altercation, I'm calling it in and then calling Mark. I want to live in my house with my guns, not at a state institution.

but armchair quarterback after the fact, I don't take anything away from what the OP did, can't say I would've done much else different in the heat of the moment. Just food for thought.

be armed and be armed with legal advice!

[Awtoman]

I disagree Huck. It sounds like it was handled politely and tactfully, until the other person/people got sh***y. Why do the cops need to solve every stupid little issue?

Tom

[aa1911]

basically, in many cases, the citizen solves the problem, the cops just show up afterwards to do the paperwork and clean up.

so stay armed and vigilant, be the solver if need be and let the LEO's do their paperwork after the fact. If situation affords it, call 911; I used to be extremely reserved before I'd ever call the law but seeing as how people call 911 because Burger King is out of fries or whatever, I have no hard feelings anymore.

I blow up their phone, at least that way I can prove I 'tried'

[wv hillbilly]

Originally Posted by Huck Finn

Since you knew who the trash belonged to, why didn't you just call the cops, give them the evidence and let them handle it? You played cop on your own and ended up in a situation where you pulled a gun on someone over some scrap paper on the road. Maybe next time you'll handle it better...

because i didn't want them to get a fine.
in wv we have the castle doctrine

[fleetwood1976]

Originally Posted by Awtoman

I disagree Huck. It sounds like it was handled politely and tactfully, until the other person/people got sh***y. Why do the cops need to solve every stupid little issue?

Tom

because people that act like 5 year olds keep calling them.

[carver]

Glad it all worked out well Hillbilly! The pics looks like out in front of my house. The road I live on is only 6 miles long, but there are three schools on this road, and it connects to much larger roads. Not only do I have trash from all the kids at the shcools that drive, but the road I live on is on the way to the dump for most in this area. I just pick it up myself, unless I see someone trashing the hiway.

[carver]

Originally Posted by aa1911

I used to pick up all the trash I saw when running around the national forest here in the cascades but about 3 years ago I stopped. No matter how much I pick up, I go back and there's always more... and more...

even bushwhacking way back off of trails and roads, son of a bee otch if I don't find beer cans! It's like they're being sprinkled around the woods by aircraft, cripes. How hard is it to bring your trash with you, I mean, it's significantly lighter than when you brought it!

One day I will catch someone redhanded dumping trash in the forest, it will be a bad day for them.

There's a guy down the road from us that had people dumping their trash in his back 40 which butted up to the road and a nice convenient pull out, he put up a sign (that's still there after 2 years now!)

says "Dump trash here, and you will meet God!"

I ran into a guy just like you many, many years ago, when I was young, dumb, and in manure! Caught me throwing a coke can out the window, while driving up a mountain, on an old dirt road. When he finished with me I felt about 2" high! I picked up my trash, and learned a real life lesson. I will pass it on if I catch someone trashing the woods, or other public wilderness areas.

[MSGT-R]

Next time, go back to the source, take a ball bat and stuff it back into the mailbox real tight!

[Alpo]

Originally Posted by Awtoman

I disagree Huck. It sounds like it was handled politely and tactfully, until the other person/people got sh***y. Why do the cops need to solve every stupid little issue?

Tom

Few years ago I was working the night shift. 3 to 11. Went in about 2:30. Then I had a day off, but had to go somewhere, and left about 2:15. Got home, about 5, and found this huge pile of trash in the front of my yard. The neighbors were doing cleanup, and since they had a circular driveway, there was no place to put trash at the street, for the garbageman to pick up. So they waited until I left for work (so they thought) and put it in my yard.

I called the law. Cop showed up and the woman came over and the first word out of her mouth was "You didn't have to call the police". Yeah, well you didn't have to put trash in my yard.

So her and her kids shoveled that big pile of trash back over into her yard, in the middle of her driveway. Don't know where they parked for the next three days, until trash pickup. Don't care.

Don't get in a pissin' match with the neighbors. Call the law. Let them handle it. That's their job.

[bluesea112]

Originally Posted by Huck Finn

Since you knew who the trash belonged to, why didn't you just call the cops, give them the evidence and let them handle it? You played cop on your own and ended up in a situation where you pulled a gun on someone over some scrap paper on the road. Maybe next time you'll handle it better...

I have to agree with Huck Finn. By trying to save the guy from getting a fine, you almost cost yourself a lot more than that fine. If you had shot him, you would have spent your life savings on attorney fees for your defense. Thank God you didn't have to pull the trigger, but you came very close to being arrested. If you had been in Texas they would have arrested you and an expensive attorney would have probably had the case dismissed. There again you would have been out of a lot of money.

[ozo]

People deliberately throw trash on the front of our
property regularly. Mostly large McDonalds bags
and the stuff that comes in them.
Last week, as MamaOzo and I sat in a big box store
parking lot, letting the engine warm after shopping,
and 20 feet from the Taco Bell drive thru window....
directly in front of us.....
two [early 20's] guys, waiting for their order at the
window.....passenger opens his door and sets a large
styrofoam cup-lid-straw on the asphalt, looks at me
smugly....gets his fresh drink from the driver, and their order,
and drive off, running over the cup on the ground......
15 feet from a trash can.....
It's not their fault......it's their upbringing !!!