What the heck is going on with the primer supply? - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

dbach · 11-18-2012, 07:57 AM

Lets blame Obama. Don't blame me for his second term.

BlackEagle · 11-18-2012, 01:18 PM

Can't get 69 grain .223 SMK over here anywhere. One dealer told me the US is making life difficult because the UK's lax immigration laws are giving too many terrorists assylum in this country.

If that's the case, the US doesn't consider the strict vetting anyone who gets a firearms certificate has to go through. The police should be able to sus out anyone who has terrorist leanings in the interview prior to giving out the FAC, and they would never legally get close to a gun.

Kevin Rohrer · 11-18-2012, 06:10 PM

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One dealer told me the US is making life difficult because the UK's lax immigration laws are giving too many terrorists assylum in this country.

That sounds like internet rumor. Obummer is allowing a lot more terrorists to enter this country through our unprotected borders than your Leftist government could ever imagine.

Kevin Rohrer · 11-18-2012, 06:12 PM

The sudden unavailability of primers is the typical hoarding that goes on whenever a Dem president is elected.

I can find plenty of primers in my area, because I know where to look. Some research on your part should do the same for you.

The Joker · 11-19-2012, 12:13 AM

Yea well only one gun store in my area sells or ever carried primers. Their normal price has always been $48 for 1,000 small pistol primer plus tax. $52 **** that I do not support that store anymore. I am scared to even see what they sell it for now.

soundguy · 11-19-2012, 08:40 AM

yikes!

usually around 30-33 here.. so if I see them at shows for 28 i grab a few.

BlackEagle · 11-19-2012, 02:56 PM

@$97/thousand here for CCI primers at my local gun store; @$55/thousand if I get them over the internet; then I have to pay another @$40 for the hazmat shipping cost per shipment. Then I have to make sure I would be at home the day the shipment comes, or go collect it from the depot...

ozo · 11-19-2012, 03:35 PM

I always check Grafs.....
and others for 5000....
especially for Magtech primers
$137 to your house at the moment
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23592

and if you can afford 10K...15K.....
$21/1000 plus hazmat

Unless I get super technical on a super round.....
any small pistol primer has always been fine.

Zhurh · 11-19-2012, 03:43 PM

BlackEagle, I need to start on pistol primers as most of mine are rifle primers. So why are they double? Is it taxes or is everything double over there? I must be in a race with CptTango. I'm just a little in front of him right now, I think. I have two boat boxes full, over 25K; started stocking up after 2008 election but now, sure glad I did. I'm going to have to take a picture and post.

The Joker · 11-19-2012, 04:38 PM

The hazmat fee is not bad when you buy in bulk. I recently ordered 12,000 primers and 8 pounds of powder, with only a 1 time hazmzat fee of $27.50 and the other $15 in shipping i paid for was for the other items as well.

stev32k · 11-19-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackEagle

@$97/thousand here for CCI primers at my local gun store; @$55/thousand if I get them over the internet; then I have to pay another @$40 for the hazmat shipping cost per shipment. Then I have to make sure I would be at home the day the shipment comes, or go collect it from the depot...

I've spent time in the UK and France and was amazed at how much more expensive things were. I didn't look at reloading supplies but camera equipment was nearly double what I would pay here. Other items like kitchen appliances were amazingly expensive. A dishwasher about half the size as the ones in the US were twice as expensive. Gas (petrol) was more than twice US prices. I still don't understand why there is such a huge discrepancy in European and US consumer prices.

Maddmaxx · 11-20-2012, 06:28 AM

I picked up some CCI 500 yesterday here in Alabama for $29.99 a thousand. They have plenty in stock.

stev32k · 11-20-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Maddmaxx

I picked up some CCI 500 yesterday here in Alabama for $29.99 a thousand. They have plenty in stock.

Wish I could find them for that price. I had to pay $43/1,000.

soundguy · 11-20-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Maddmaxx

I picked up some CCI 500 yesterday here in Alabama for $29.99 a thousand. They have plenty in stock.

similar to prices here, when in stock.

BlackEagle · 11-20-2012, 04:16 PM

For a lot of things like technology, just take the price in $ and substitute a £. The numbers are the same but the exchange rate is about $1.60/£.

Many things like primers are imported from the US, so we have the transportation costs and import tarriffs.

Most things are more expensive because we have big government. Here in the UK there is a national VAT of 20% that is automatically added to the price of most things (some foods are exempt, as is children's clothing). No sales tax to add on. The price on the packet is what you pay, including VAT. The VAT goes into a government budget black hole that is used to pay EU dues and fines, and entitlements to politicians and other terrorists and leaches on society. It also goes (along with our income tax) toward the National Healthcare System.

The price of fuel (gas and diesel) is between 70-80% tax. Our heat and electricity bills have gone up significantly because of government's demands for green energy.

There is also a difference in mentality. In the US, Places like Golden Corral succeed by making a little profit off lots of sales. As the Scots say, "Many a mickle maks a muckle".
Restaurants and other places over here go for making a large profit from a few sales. While we have fast food restaurants and very expensive places to eat, there are relatively few places like Olive Garden or Applebees where you can get a reasonable meal at a reasonable cost, unless you go to a pub (which I don't do much).

My local gun shop may be slightly more expensive but I try to support him as much as possible.

11-18-2012, 07:57 AM	#26
dbach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Trinity, TX Posts: 164	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? Lets blame Obama. Don't blame me for his second term. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, TX Rookie Reloader but learning fast 9mm, 40S&W, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 38 Special, .357 Magnum, 38 S&W, .243, & 30-06 CHL ~ Texas

11-18-2012, 01:18 PM	#27
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,154	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? Can't get 69 grain .223 SMK over here anywhere. One dealer told me the US is making life difficult because the UK's lax immigration laws are giving too many terrorists assylum in this country. If that's the case, the US doesn't consider the strict vetting anyone who gets a firearms certificate has to go through. The police should be able to sus out anyone who has terrorist leanings in the interview prior to giving out the FAC, and they would never legally get close to a gun.

11-18-2012, 06:12 PM	#29
Kevin Rohrer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 277	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? The sudden unavailability of primers is the typical hoarding that goes on whenever a Dem president is elected. I can find plenty of primers in my area, because I know where to look. Some research on your part should do the same for you. __________________ An armed society is a polite society--Robert Heinlein via Jeff Cooper Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, Varmint Hunters Assn, American Legion, ARCTA, & South Cuyahoga Sportsmen's Assn.

11-19-2012, 12:13 AM	#30
The Joker V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 75	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? Yea well only one gun store in my area sells or ever carried primers. Their normal price has always been $48 for 1,000 small pistol primer plus tax. $52 **** that I do not support that store anymore. I am scared to even see what they sell it for now.

11-19-2012, 08:40 AM	#31
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,406	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? yikes! usually around 30-33 here.. so if I see them at shows for 28 i grab a few.

11-19-2012, 02:56 PM	#32
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,154	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? @$97/thousand here for CCI primers at my local gun store; @$55/thousand if I get them over the internet; then I have to pay another @$40 for the hazmat shipping cost per shipment. Then I have to make sure I would be at home the day the shipment comes, or go collect it from the depot...

11-19-2012, 03:35 PM	#33
ozo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 2,770	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? I always check Grafs..... and others for 5000.... especially for Magtech primers $137 to your house at the moment http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23592 and if you can afford 10K...15K..... $21/1000 plus hazmat Unless I get super technical on a super round..... any small pistol primer has always been fine. __________________ http://www.nranews.com/#/nranews, "ozo. you're off your rocker sir." -johnlives4christ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ -America,Bless GOD- Last edited by ozo; 11-19-2012 at 03:39 PM..

11-19-2012, 03:43 PM	#34
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,807	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? BlackEagle, I need to start on pistol primers as most of mine are rifle primers. So why are they double? Is it taxes or is everything double over there? I must be in a race with CptTango. I'm just a little in front of him right now, I think. I have two boat boxes full, over 25K; started stocking up after 2008 election but now, sure glad I did. I'm going to have to take a picture and post.

11-19-2012, 04:38 PM	#35
The Joker V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 75	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? The hazmat fee is not bad when you buy in bulk. I recently ordered 12,000 primers and 8 pounds of powder, with only a 1 time hazmzat fee of $27.50 and the other $15 in shipping i paid for was for the other items as well.

11-20-2012, 06:28 AM	#37
Maddmaxx Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 45	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? I picked up some CCI 500 yesterday here in Alabama for $29.99 a thousand. They have plenty in stock.

11-20-2012, 04:16 PM	#40
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,154	Re: What the heck is going on with the primer supply? For a lot of things like technology, just take the price in $ and substitute a £. The numbers are the same but the exchange rate is about $1.60/£. Many things like primers are imported from the US, so we have the transportation costs and import tarriffs. Most things are more expensive because we have big government. Here in the UK there is a national VAT of 20% that is automatically added to the price of most things (some foods are exempt, as is children's clothing). No sales tax to add on. The price on the packet is what you pay, including VAT. The VAT goes into a government budget black hole that is used to pay EU dues and fines, and entitlements to politicians and other terrorists and leaches on society. It also goes (along with our income tax) toward the National Healthcare System. The price of fuel (gas and diesel) is between 70-80% tax. Our heat and electricity bills have gone up significantly because of government's demands for green energy. There is also a difference in mentality. In the US, Places like Golden Corral succeed by making a little profit off lots of sales. As the Scots say, "Many a mickle maks a muckle". Restaurants and other places over here go for making a large profit from a few sales. While we have fast food restaurants and very expensive places to eat, there are relatively few places like Olive Garden or Applebees where you can get a reasonable meal at a reasonable cost, unless you go to a pub (which I don't do much). My local gun shop may be slightly more expensive but I try to support him as much as possible.