will feds be allowed to read our e-mail?

[ShawnDow]

just found this on yahoo
http://news.yahoo.com/senate-bill-re...191930756.html

[GunnyGene]

Yahoo is a little behind the times. Leahy as withdrawn his support for the bill. It's doa. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...eillance-bill/

[soundguy]

allowed or not.. I just assume any communication I make nowadays is viewed, recorded or monitored. Heck.. TALKING to someone face to face may even be recorded by electronic survailance on or near the person you are speaking to.

your thoughts in your head are about the only safe communication these days.

I'm sure that may eventually change too

have to start putting MORE tinfoil inthe hat at that point I guess..

[cycloneman]

what makes you think they are not doing it now

[howlnmad]

They want some recipes for the smoker or want to read the Dick Morris report, let em read mine.

If you think the alphabet groups in DC are screwed up now, let em monitor my thoughts. They better hope odramacare pays for couch time. Their gonna need a lot of it .

[vytoland]

"big brother" monitors everyone and has for a long time

[hogger129]

they already can

[cpttango30]

NSA server farm that is the largest in the world. They are just not listening to Terrorist anymore.

[RunningOnMT]

Originally Posted by soundguy

allowed or not.. I just assume any communication I make nowadays is viewed, recorded or monitored. Heck.. TALKING to someone face to face may even be recorded by electronic survailance on or near the person you are speaking to.

your thoughts in your head are about the only safe communication these days.

I'm sure that may eventually change too

have to start putting MORE tinfoil inthe hat at that point I guess..

+1

[norahc]

Originally Posted by hogger129

they already can

Originally Posted by cpttango30

NSA server farm that is the largest in the world. They are just not listening to Terrorist anymore.

Project ECHELON

It's more than just emails.

[1 Eyed Jack]

It's in the courts right now in Ca, if the "authorities" should be allowed to monitor the internet/email activity of registered, and released sex offenders, I believe a law was already passed to OK it, but now is being challenged in court right now, and so far it looks like it's going to be struck down,

Sex offenders already have to register, if you haven't looked at the Megan's law website, and checked your neighborhood for registered offenders you should, you will be surprised, if not angered, especially if you have kids, it shows exactly where they live, address, and what their offence was, if it was abusing a child, whatever, it shows it all, so on one hand the first reaction may be to say YES, absolutely the internet activity of THESE people should be monitored, I personally think it should, they have made their bed and now they have to lay in it, but then others might argue that if that door is cracked open, how long before it swings open all the way and everyone/anyone could be fully monitored? for any reason deemed adequate, tough call.

[cpttango30]

I can't look at that web site. I will go into a blind rage and I will exhaust all of my ammo supplies I have spend the last few years building up.

[norahc]

Originally Posted by cpttango30

I can't look at that web site. I will go into a blind rage and I will exhaust all of my ammo supplies I have spend the last few years building up.

Which website?

[1 Eyed Jack]

Originally Posted by norahc

Which website?

http://www.megans-law.net/Megans-Law...f-Contents.asp

Pick your state, follow the links to your county/area, put in your address, and be prepared to find out just who is living close to you and your children,

EDIT: there are 2 states that do not/will not participate, but I don't recall which ones, and they may have joined in this since I last heard about it, I thought Colorado was one of them, but it's on the list,

EDIT #2: that link appears to be bad and/or outdated, just google

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&...w=1016&bih=564

and add your state on the search line after "megans law website", so: megans law website Colorado or whatever state you live in, drill down to your area by folling the links,

[1 Eyed Jack]

Originally Posted by cpttango30

I can't look at that web site. I will go into a blind rage and I will exhaust all of my ammo supplies I have spend the last few years building up.

Ya I know, but you gotta know who's house your kid is walking by on the way to and from school, or on the way to the park they like to play at etc.

[norahc]

Originally Posted by 1 Eyed Jack

Ya I know, but you gotta know who's house your kid is walking by on the way to and from school, or on the way to the park they like to play at etc.

I wasn't sure if he was referring to Megan's Law or the wikipedia link I posted.

[gun runner]

Yes the feds can read your e mail

[Maine04657]

LOL funny there are folks who think there are not people already reading them...

[GunnyGene]

Originally Posted by gun runner

Yes the feds can read your e mail

I think the original post about the Leahy bill was more about the legal issues of capturing electronic communications without a warrant, rather than whether it is technically feasible or not (which it is of course). As to whether large scale snooping is actually taking place or not is debatable. That said, good old Alex Jones is on another of his conspiracy rants about this sort of thing. Personally, I don't give a damn (at least for now).

The National Security Agency has refused to release details of a secret presidential directive which experts believe could allow the military and intelligence agencies to operate on the networks of private companies, such as Google and Facebook.

As we reported last week, an article in the Washington Post, cited several US officials saying that Obama signed off on the secret cybersecurity order, believed to widely expand NSA’s spying authorities, in mid-October.

“The new directive is the most extensive White House effort to date to wrestle with what constitutes an “offensive” and a “defensive” action in the rapidly evolving world of cyberwar and cyberterrorism.” the report states.

More: http://www.infowars.com/nsa-refuses-...cybersecurity/

[gman51]

Since when did the feds ask to be allowed to do something? They do it and deal with it later if they catch any flack about it. Has anyone besides myself noticed how viewing of websites has many more interuptions than it used to have? Viewing of my email has alot of interruptions it never had before. Maybe it is just server overload.
If I surf the net for something whether it is information or an item I will then see alot of email quickly come related to what I was surfing for. So no doubt our web use is monitored and that does not get hit for being illegal snooping. My pc protection is constantly removing adware and tracking programs. I guess that is basically just thought of as surveying so it is ok.
I guess we would have to prove our email was being read by the govt. Could you prove without doubt that was how govt. got information about you? I imagine if the govt. arrested you their reading your email would be last on your list of worries. Keep your nose and guns clean.

[cpttango30]

Gunny

You don't build a server farm with enough storage to record everything every person in america does on the internet for 10 years with out doing just that.

That NSA server farm is the largest I have ever seen. They build one just south of where I live and it was huge and couldn't even touch the one the NSA build out in the middle of the desert.

A person might not be looking at what we are doing. But they are logging everything. It is really an invasion of privacy and against the law.

[Maine04657]

Originally Posted by cpttango30

It is really an invasion of privacy and against the law.

Like paperwork for buying firearm. Border check point inside the USA. Police in NY stopping a searching people with no warrant or cause. The list goes on...