Norinko SKS - The Firearms Forum

goofy · 11-23-2012, 03:42 PM

Ware can I get a new bolt and firring pin for a Norinco AK 5.56x45?
Mike

ShawnDow · 11-23-2012, 03:54 PM

Mike, are you looking surplus o.e.? which type by the way Type 59/66 type 45 type 56 or type 63? Numrich has the bolt (stripped) and a pin currently in stock , $34 and $21, but you will need the firing pin retainer as well $7 there are other on line places as well
https://www.buymilsurp.com/sks-origi...-c-6_8_17.html

hope this helps,
Shawn Dow

ShawnDow · 11-23-2012, 03:56 PM

I just realized the caliber... let me recheck for you... the previous was for the 7.62x39 sorry.

ShawnDow · 11-23-2012, 04:02 PM

I believe the type 84 SKS (paratrooper) with detachable AK style mag, was chambered in your 5.56x45.. still checking

goofy · 11-23-2012, 04:34 PM

Yep it is the 84S. But it is a AK not a SKS
Mike

ShawnDow · 11-23-2012, 07:47 PM

Mike.. maybe these guys can make one for the 5.56x45
http://www.murraysguns.com/sksown.htm
Or may have more info than I can dig up.
Shawn

ShawnDow · 11-23-2012, 08:15 PM

one more
http://www.sksman.com/index.php

goofy · 11-26-2012, 08:27 AM

Any body else have any Ideas?
Mike

zant · 11-26-2012, 04:23 PM

Excuse my ignorance but I was'nt aware a Norinco SKS was ever made in any other caliber than 7.62x39......I have a Russian with a AK magwell I bought for 250 years ago...

goofy · 11-26-2012, 05:18 PM

You know you might be right

All I have been working on is the bolt and what he said I havent had the gun in my hands.
It's my friends gun so he just sent the bolt.
I called him and told him to send pic.
I need to see the gun.
He just sent a pic to show me the numbers
I think he could have a AK not a SKS.
He sent this.
I Need to see more.
Now if I can get this from a e-mail to here.
Mike

I think this is a AK!
Good call zant !

ShawnDow · 11-26-2012, 05:23 PM

Its a "Stamped Steel" receiver! Ill check on the "AK" type 84S and see what info comes up!
Shawn

ShawnDow · 11-26-2012, 05:28 PM

Yes, Mike, Its an AK type 84S chambered in 5.56X45.. or 5.56 NATO... or .223, call the round what ever you will!.. But its an AK none the less... you have a picture of the L/H side of the receiver! (or the side opposite the ejection port)

goofy · 11-26-2012, 05:28 PM

This will teach me to have the whole gun in my hand before I open my mouth.

Mike

ShawnDow · 11-26-2012, 05:28 PM

this should make finding the bolt easier!

ShawnDow · 11-26-2012, 05:29 PM

But.. I did find some info on a 5.56 type 84 SKS!!!!!

goofy · 11-26-2012, 05:39 PM

Now I had this dam bolt in my hands for a week and could not tell it's from a AK not a SKS.
WOW!!!!!

I need a break.

Mike

ShawnDow · 11-26-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofy

Now I had this dam bolt in my hands for a week and could not tell it's from a AK not a SKS.
WOW!!!!!

I need a break.

Mike

Sadly, I wanted to originally ask you if it was a drop breach lock or a rotary lock type bolt... but I figured you knew what you had.... oops! take a vacation Mike! Sounds like you need it!

goofy · 11-26-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

Sadly, I wanted to originally ask you if it was a drop breach lock or a rotary lock type bolt... but I figured you knew what you had.... oops! take a vacation Mike! Sounds like you need it!

I should have known.
Just reading what he wrote and not thinking when I saw what was wrong with the bolt I just put it down and went on to the next thing and well
I screwed up is all I can say.
Mike

zant · 11-26-2012, 08:10 PM

I ONCE called a "Moisin"...a "Nagant" and did'nt hear the end of that for about 3 months

goofy · 11-27-2012, 05:58 AM

Now that I know what I have

I have a question.
As you can tell I am not that familiar with these guns.
So here is the question.
This AK needs a new bolt so far all I can find is a bolt with the floating firing pin style the one I have is the spring loaded style.
Are they interchangeable? can I use the floating pin style in this gun?instead of the spring loaded style.
Mike

ShawnDow · 11-27-2012, 02:47 PM

Mike, I'm not 100%, but with the SKS... The "spring" firing pins vs. the "floating" firing pins, was an after thought, the spring style was to prevent "slam fires". The SKS bolt and firing pins were tapered, and some times the firing pin got "stuck" protruding past the bolt face causing.... Barrrrrrrp!
I would ASSUME the AK has the same thinking!
Also.... The spring and floating for the most part are interchangeable on the SKS... I'm sure there is an exception somewhere.
Hope this helps,
Shawn

ShawnDow · 11-30-2012, 03:19 PM

Mike, I did a little digging, and yes... the "spring loaded" bolt assemblies are "interchangeable" or "good idea" replacements (head space fit / check required) and came about because the softer primers on the non mil-surp type of ammo. So, change bolts (fit and check), and fire away!

goofy · 11-30-2012, 03:38 PM

Thanks!

I appreciate all you have done for me.
I just got the gun in yesterday.So will be working on it to get it right.
I still can't believe I could not tell it was a bolt from a AK not a SKS.

Got to slow down!!
Mike

RunningOnMT · 11-30-2012, 04:11 PM

I'm confused, are we talking AK or SKS. The SKS has been around for a very long time, long before the invention of the 5.56X45 caliber round. Not only that but to my knowledge the SKS was manufactured only in 7.62X39, as was the AK47. Even when the Russians downsized the caliber in the AK74, they went with their own unique 5.45X39 rather than 5.56X45.

Might you be dealing with a Saiga? That's an AK style rifle that is available in several calibers including the 5.56X45/.223.

RunningOnMT · 11-30-2012, 04:14 PM

Oh crap, I'm sorry, didn't look closely enough at the picture. I'm really baffled now. I never knew Norinco chambered anything in 5.56X45. Maybe it is an aftermarket conversion.

11-23-2012, 03:42 PM	#1
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Norinko SKS Ware can I get a new bolt and firring pin for a Norinco AK 5.56x45? Mike --> Last edited by goofy; 11-27-2012 at 05:22 AM.. Reason: I am blind it's a AK

11-23-2012, 03:54 PM	#2
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Mike, are you looking surplus o.e.? which type by the way Type 59/66 type 45 type 56 or type 63? Numrich has the bolt (stripped) and a pin currently in stock , $34 and $21, but you will need the firing pin retainer as well $7 there are other on line places as well https://www.buymilsurp.com/sks-origi...-c-6_8_17.html hope this helps, Shawn Dow __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-23-2012, 03:56 PM	#3
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS I just realized the caliber... let me recheck for you... the previous was for the 7.62x39 sorry. __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-23-2012, 04:02 PM	#4
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS I believe the type 84 SKS (paratrooper) with detachable AK style mag, was chambered in your 5.56x45.. still checking __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-23-2012, 04:34 PM	#5
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS Yep it is the 84S. But it is a AK not a SKS Mike Last edited by goofy; 11-27-2012 at 05:22 AM..

11-23-2012, 07:47 PM	#6
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Mike.. maybe these guys can make one for the 5.56x45 http://www.murraysguns.com/sksown.htm Or may have more info than I can dig up. Shawn __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-23-2012, 08:15 PM	#7
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS one more http://www.sksman.com/index.php __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-26-2012, 08:27 AM	#8
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS Any body else have any Ideas? Mike

11-26-2012, 04:23 PM	#9
zant V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: S.Al Posts: 251	Re: Norinko SKS Excuse my ignorance but I was'nt aware a Norinco SKS was ever made in any other caliber than 7.62x39......I have a Russian with a AK magwell I bought for 250 years ago...

11-26-2012, 05:18 PM	#10
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS You know you might be right All I have been working on is the bolt and what he said I havent had the gun in my hands. It's my friends gun so he just sent the bolt. I called him and told him to send pic. I need to see the gun. He just sent a pic to show me the numbers I think he could have a AK not a SKS. He sent this. I Need to see more. Now if I can get this from a e-mail to here. Mike I think this is a AK! Good call zant ! Attached Images

11-26-2012, 05:23 PM	#11
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Its a "Stamped Steel" receiver! Ill check on the "AK" type 84S and see what info comes up! Shawn __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-26-2012, 05:28 PM	#12
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Yes, Mike, Its an AK type 84S chambered in 5.56X45.. or 5.56 NATO... or .223, call the round what ever you will!.. But its an AK none the less... you have a picture of the L/H side of the receiver! (or the side opposite the ejection port) __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-26-2012, 05:28 PM	#13
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS This will teach me to have the whole gun in my hand before I open my mouth. Mike Last edited by goofy; 11-26-2012 at 05:30 PM..

11-26-2012, 05:28 PM	#14
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS this should make finding the bolt easier! __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-26-2012, 05:29 PM	#15
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS But.. I did find some info on a 5.56 type 84 SKS!!!!! __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-26-2012, 05:39 PM	#16
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS Now I had this dam bolt in my hands for a week and could not tell it's from a AK not a SKS. WOW!!!!! I need a break. Mike

11-26-2012, 08:10 PM	#19
zant V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: S.Al Posts: 251	Re: Norinko SKS I ONCE called a "Moisin"...a "Nagant" and did'nt hear the end of that for about 3 months

11-27-2012, 05:58 AM	#20
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS Now that I know what I have I have a question. As you can tell I am not that familiar with these guns. So here is the question. This AK needs a new bolt so far all I can find is a bolt with the floating firing pin style the one I have is the spring loaded style. Are they interchangeable? can I use the floating pin style in this gun?instead of the spring loaded style. Mike

11-27-2012, 02:47 PM	#21
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Mike, I'm not 100%, but with the SKS... The "spring" firing pins vs. the "floating" firing pins, was an after thought, the spring style was to prevent "slam fires". The SKS bolt and firing pins were tapered, and some times the firing pin got "stuck" protruding past the bolt face causing.... Barrrrrrrp! I would ASSUME the AK has the same thinking! Also.... The spring and floating for the most part are interchangeable on the SKS... I'm sure there is an exception somewhere. Hope this helps, Shawn __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-30-2012, 03:19 PM	#22
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 398	Re: Norinko SKS Mike, I did a little digging, and yes... the "spring loaded" bolt assemblies are "interchangeable" or "good idea" replacements (head space fit / check required) and came about because the softer primers on the non mil-surp type of ammo. So, change bolts (fit and check), and fire away! __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-30-2012, 03:38 PM	#23
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,063	Re: Norinko SKS Thanks! I appreciate all you have done for me. I just got the gun in yesterday.So will be working on it to get it right. I still can't believe I could not tell it was a bolt from a AK not a SKS. Got to slow down!! Mike

11-30-2012, 04:11 PM	#24
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Norinko SKS I'm confused, are we talking AK or SKS. The SKS has been around for a very long time, long before the invention of the 5.56X45 caliber round. Not only that but to my knowledge the SKS was manufactured only in 7.62X39, as was the AK47. Even when the Russians downsized the caliber in the AK74, they went with their own unique 5.45X39 rather than 5.56X45. Might you be dealing with a Saiga? That's an AK style rifle that is available in several calibers including the 5.56X45/.223. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

11-30-2012, 04:14 PM	#25
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Norinko SKS Oh crap, I'm sorry, didn't look closely enough at the picture. I'm really baffled now. I never knew Norinco chambered anything in 5.56X45. Maybe it is an aftermarket conversion. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"