Where the jobs are(n't) - The Firearms Forum

GunnyGene · 12-08-2012, 06:45 AM

Apparently in local, state, and federal govt. According to the news 73% of the jobs filled in the last 5 months are in govt. positions. In other words for every new hire that is pulling the cart, 3 new passengers are riding in the cart. How is that helping anything?

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Even though deficits rule the day at every level of government, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, of the 847,000 new jobs created since June, a full 621,000 were government jobs. In November alone, 35,000 new government jobs were created.

In other words, as the labor participation rate plummets to a thirty year low -- which means we have fewer taxpayers -- we're not only increasing the number of taxpayer-funded jobs, but the government is using the creation of these jobs to juice the employment numbers in a way that makes it look as though the job situation is actually improving.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...overnment-jobs

68c15 · 12-08-2012, 08:08 AM

so it's like buying factory ammo so you can have more brass to reload?

cpttango30 · 12-08-2012, 08:09 AM

Because big gubberment is really big business.

Carne Frio · 12-08-2012, 08:14 AM

Part of the communist takeover; where we will all be government employees.

carver · 12-08-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Carne Frio

Part of the communist takeover; where we will all be government employees.

Right on! Of course you won't be getting the pay check you once got, because everyone should get the same amount of money!!!

68c15 · 12-08-2012, 08:22 AM

since the government owns a majority if GM, does that mean their employees are government employees?

68c15 · 12-08-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

Right on! Of course you won't be getting the pay check you once got, because everyone should get the same amount of money!!!

as long as I get my monthly entitlement I am OK

carver · 12-08-2012, 08:28 AM

You will keep getting it alright, it will be smaller checks though! Got to cut those entitlements so the poor can have more!

jbmid1 · 12-08-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

You will keep getting it alright, it will be smaller checks though! Got to cut those entitlements so the poor can have more!

As the Russians used to say, "we pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."

jbmid1 · 12-08-2012, 10:16 AM

Actually got myself a job in the private sector. Mechanic for the local Land Rover dealer.
Kinda wanted to avoid working for the govt. after leaving the military.

1 Eyed Jack · 12-08-2012, 10:48 AM

I have applied for at least 50+ state positions, had 4 interviews, each time I was/am completely qualified, with over 25 years in my industry, but I did not get the job, I think I lack 1 or 2 "special" qualifications to land a state or fed job, it saddens me, AND pisses me off, that I am passed over because I'm a caucasian male, in my last job I worked directly with the state for over 3 years, when I would go to ANY state office, caucasian males were by FAR the minority, maybe 1 in 25 employee's, if not fewer, funny how affirmative action stopped being implemented when CM'S became a minority in the state,

Being unemployed myself, I don't sleep well and I listen to a lot of late night talk radio, last night one of the topics was Social Security, after hearing some of the facts/figures, I now have a better understanding of why it is doomed, unless some changes are made, I'll try to stick to bullet points,

*When SS was created, the average life expectancy was 63, so the average person never lived long enough to draw SS,

*Today the average life expectancy is in the upper 70's, SS was not designed/expected to make payments to ANYONE for 10-20 years,

*When SS was created, 16 people contributed to the program, for ever ONE person receiving SS, today the ratio is 3:1, by 2025, it will be 2:1,

There were some other eye opening stats, that I can't think of right now, and don't want to make inaccurate statements, one figure I do wish I remember is the $ figure that obama TOOK from the SS program for bozo-care, it was a large amount, from an already struggling program, but can't recall exactly what the number was,

So, I had just accepted what we are being told, SS is going to go broke if not adjusted somehow, I just didn't know exactly why, the 16:1 original ratio is now 3:1 and soon to be 2:1, and we live 15-20 years longer than we did when the program was conceived,

Part of the remedy will quite likely be to raise the retirement age up from 65, will probably go to 67, if not 68, money going INTO the system will have to be increased somehow, etc., it's going to take a combination of modifications to keep it running,

The 16:1 ratio, that is now a 3:1 ratio was the most striking fact to me,

12-08-2012, 08:08 AM	#2
68c15 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,069	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) so it's like buying factory ammo so you can have more brass to reload? __________________ I'll go defenseless when our leaders do the same

12-08-2012, 08:09 AM	#3
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) Because big gubberment is really big business.

12-08-2012, 08:14 AM	#4
Carne Frio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Near Fairbanks Posts: 699	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) Part of the communist takeover; where we will all be government employees.

12-08-2012, 08:22 AM	#6
68c15 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,069	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) since the government owns a majority if GM, does that mean their employees are government employees? __________________ I'll go defenseless when our leaders do the same

12-08-2012, 08:28 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,295	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) You will keep getting it alright, it will be smaller checks though! Got to cut those entitlements so the poor can have more! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

12-08-2012, 10:16 AM	#10
jbmid1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,080	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) Actually got myself a job in the private sector. Mechanic for the local Land Rover dealer. Kinda wanted to avoid working for the govt. after leaving the military. __________________ You can't be too rich, too thin, or have too much firepower.

12-08-2012, 10:48 AM	#11
1 Eyed Jack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 673	Re: Where the jobs are(n't) I have applied for at least 50+ state positions, had 4 interviews, each time I was/am completely qualified, with over 25 years in my industry, but I did not get the job, I think I lack 1 or 2 "special" qualifications to land a state or fed job, it saddens me, AND pisses me off, that I am passed over because I'm a caucasian male, in my last job I worked directly with the state for over 3 years, when I would go to ANY state office, caucasian males were by FAR the minority, maybe 1 in 25 employee's, if not fewer, funny how affirmative action stopped being implemented when CM'S became a minority in the state, Being unemployed myself, I don't sleep well and I listen to a lot of late night talk radio, last night one of the topics was Social Security, after hearing some of the facts/figures, I now have a better understanding of why it is doomed, unless some changes are made, I'll try to stick to bullet points, When SS was created, the average life expectancy was 63, so the average person never lived long enough to draw SS, Today the average life expectancy is in the upper 70's, SS was not designed/expected to make payments to ANYONE for 10-20 years, When SS was created, 16 people contributed to the program, for ever ONE person receiving SS, today the ratio is 3:1, by 2025, it will be 2:1, There were some other eye opening stats, that I can't think of right now, and don't want to make inaccurate statements, one figure I do wish I remember is the $ figure that obama TOOK from the SS program for bozo-care, it was a large amount, from an already struggling program, but can't recall exactly what the number was, So, I had just accepted what we are being told, SS is going to go broke if not adjusted somehow, I just didn't know exactly why, the 16:1 original ratio is now 3:1 and soon to be 2:1, and we live 15-20 years longer than we did when the program was conceived, Part of the remedy will quite likely be to raise the retirement age up from 65, will probably go to 67, if not 68, money going INTO the system will have to be increased somehow, etc., it's going to take a combination of modifications to keep it running, The 16:1 ratio, that is now a 3:1 ratio was the most striking fact to me, Last edited by 1 Eyed Jack; 12-08-2012 at 11:02 AM..*