Here's the best safe that money can buy - The Firearms Forum

76Highboy · 12-08-2012, 09:46 PM

This safe is about as solid as they come. Hwever, they cost over $10,000 dollars and up. Check out the specs and steel thickness on these safe's.

http://www.graffundersafes.com/produ...es-weapon.html

aa1911 · 12-08-2012, 10:01 PM

cool!

If anyone here was having trouble deciding what to buy me for Christmas, this would make a great stocking stuffer..... hahaa!

76Highboy · 12-08-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

cool!

If anyone here was having trouble deciding what to buy me for Christmas, this would make a great stocking stuffer..... hahaa!

The one that measures 71"x48"x29" weighs 5300 lbs. It has 1" steel walls and the door is 1 1/2" thick. Good luck stealing or prying into that safe.

aa1911 · 12-08-2012, 10:15 PM

Yeah, right? that things goin' NOWHERE!

Can't wait to be at my end all be-all home, I will be cementing and welding my safes in place inside of a sea-land container that is built inside of another building. 3 + secure locks to defeat, good luck!

I hate thieves...

dh1984 · 12-08-2012, 10:21 PM

That a heck of a safe there.

cpttango30 · 12-09-2012, 06:22 AM

I have lusted after a gruffunder for a while....

68c15 · 12-09-2012, 07:31 AM

combine that with a ground well supplied solar powered sprinkler system in the vault room and I would be fine.

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 11:22 AM

Hmmm... Idunno, I've got a huge Cannon gun safe and I can't even open it!!!

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 12:17 PM

All kidding aside, I really can't open it. It was left to me by default. My stepdad died this year and took the combo with him! Not cool dadio! There's nothing in it but it sure would be nice to put my own guns in there. I mean who doesn't want one of these. Solid like the rock and boy is this sucker heavy. I mean you thought 76Highboy's dream girl was heavy, try moving this beast. It takes two muscle men and a refer dolly to make it budge and not a penny less. The best price I'm quoted for the MAN to do magic on it is 300 bones. Too rich for my blood so that'll be my last resort. Meanwhile I'm serving life as a stubborn do-it-yourselfer but after many many hours of manipulation it's no closer to being opened. Argh!!!

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 12:18 PM

Cannon

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 12:37 PM

I don't keep my guns in safes - they are tools - when I need them, I need them. Certainly don't want to be wasting time to open a safe to use them.

toppkatt · 12-09-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aa1911

cool!

If anyone here was having trouble deciding what to buy me for Christmas, this would make a great stocking stuffer..... hahaa!

How big ARE your feet?

cpttango30 · 12-09-2012, 01:07 PM

Fuzebox call a lock smith any good one will have you in that sucker in under an hour tops.

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cpttango30

Fuzebox call a lock smith any good one will have you in that sucker in under an hour tops.

Actually safecracking is a specialty not done by your everyday locksmith. And a safecracker is not necesarily a locksmith either. I live in a very big and populated county in southern cal and yet the closest safe cracker is at least an hours drive away. There are dozons of locksmiths in that range. Locksmithing and safecracking are quite different, in fact they make efforts to make safecracking literature not readily available to the public. Then came the internet.
I've done alot of research and I know more about it than my local locksmiths! I've been able to open some cheaper locks but this one more sensative than even many more expensive locks. The locks are not made by the safe company, they purchase them from a lock maker and this old Cannon got a good one!
Even a good safe cracker affords himself multiple hours to work the safe with no gaurantee of sucsessful manipulation.

Double D · 12-09-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WHSmithIV

I don't keep my guns in safes - they are tools - when I need them, I need them. Certainly don't want to be wasting time to open a safe to use them.

You obviously dont own many guns. When you get an inventory like some of us have, you will need 2 safes and maybe more. Every man with an inventory MUST own a safe. I keep my normal 6-7 guns hidden around the house in various places and of course my carry gun on my belt or on the night stand while I sleep, but the other 40 plus guns need to be locked up.

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 04:02 PM

Well curently I keep the handguns packed inside a smaller closet safe with no room left for future pieces and I hate it when I want to get at one in the back. I keep as many long guns as I can in the gun cabinet. It's locked of course but nothing would keep a person from breaking into it. The rest of my long guns I have to keep in thier cases. My collection is about 30 strong but lusting for a safe big enough is far easier than buying it.
At some point you realize that first gun you bought has turned into an addiction that you don't intend to quit and a gun safe is in your future. Then looking at safes and thinking "I can almost afford this if I don't buy any more work tools this year". But then you also know you'll outgrow it eventully so you gotta go big! Bigger than you need right now. But that monster comes with a price tag just as big so it'll have to wait. Once again I have a rich mans desires and poor mans wallet.
Am I'm the only one that's been down that road? But yep, gotta have a safe!

Double D · 12-09-2012, 05:40 PM

I am posting a link to some safes that are not only affordable, but are built very well. If you will match the steel thickness and the size of the locking bolts and the fire rating against just about any other manufacture out there, to get the same safe would cost you at least double. I know, I have done the research.

http://stores.ebay.com/Pioneer-Safe?_rdc=1

Look at the specs. These are not the same as the stack ons and the safes sold at alot of the stores around town. These actually have 1/4" steel doors and 9 1 1/2" locking bolts and 1300 degree fire ratings. He will drop ship to your front door to many states for free in two days. He guarantees his product.

76Highboy · 12-09-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I am posting a link to some safes that are not only affordable, but are built very well. If you will match the steel thickness and the size of the locking bolts and the fire rating against just about any other manufacture out there, to get the same safe would cost you at least double. I know, I have done the research.

http://stores.ebay.com/Pioneer-Safe?_rdc=1

Look at the specs. These are not the same as the stack ons and the safes sold at alot of the stores around town. These actually have 1/4" steel doors and 9 1 1/2" locking bolts and 1300 degree fire ratings. He will drop ship to your front door to many states for free in two days. He guarantees his product.

This safe is the deal right here Dan. If I did not own the one I have I would be seriously considering this one.

Like you Dan, I also keep certain guns hidden around the house and then my CCW gun. The rest belong locked up safely. In this dasy and age it is too risky not having a good quality safe. Some people buy safe's, others invest in them. Usually the ones that buy a safe end up with inadequate protection, and those that invest in a safe end up with proper protection.

As for the Gruffunder safe it is really not practical only because of the cost. If I were a rich person I would own at least one, however there are a lot of great safe's that offer excellent protection.

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

You obviously dont own many guns. When you get an inventory like some of us have, you will need 2 safes and maybe more. Every man with an inventory MUST own a safe. I keep my normal 6-7 guns hidden around the house in various places and of course my carry gun on my belt or on the night stand while I sleep, but the other 40 plus guns need to be locked up.

True, I don't yet have 40+ guns. When I do though, they will be in racks on the walls. Our house is my safe and has it's own safety systems. I'm guessing you don't live in the middle of nowhere and thieves could be a reason for having gun safes - but here in the middle of nowhere there aren't any thieves.

Double D · 12-09-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WHSmithIV

True, I don't yet have 40+ guns. When I do though, they will be in racks on the walls. Our house is my safe and has it's own safety systems.

I have a 4 camera security system, 4 dogs, an alarm system, I have sensors that let me know when someone is within 200ft of the house, I live in a low crime area on acreage that is fenced with an electric gate and I still have a safe. I have lived in the country all my life. You will see if you ever build your collection, you will want a safe. Hanging 35+ handguns on the wall doesnt make much sense.....

Big Chevy · 12-09-2012, 07:28 PM

All I know is they better be bolted down good or they end up like mine GONE!!! 2 of them

76Highboy · 12-09-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Chevy

All I know is they better be bolted down good or they end up like mine GONE!!! 2 of them

Ouch.

berto64 · 12-09-2012, 08:35 PM

Owned a smaller Graffunder a few years back. Sold it when I went thru bankruptcy and needed some cash. Sold some Spanish pistols to the same fella here in town.

Loved that boat anchor.

fuzebox40 · 12-09-2012, 08:58 PM

Yeah those prices are tastey. Especially the biggest ones. I like that they're dial locks too. Keypads are just not my style. Every time I see a big safe I'm drawn to it like a bug at the porch light so I know how expensive they are. And yes it's an investment, that's why I haven't bought one too small or too cheap just to save a buck.
I won't cry a single tear if I have to shell out $300 to have this Cannon opened. You can't touch them for that price. But I couldn't live with myself either if I didn't at least give it a try myself first. I can definitely refinish it myself and I kinda like the old look of it. It's kinda like fixin up an old gun to me. Big enough place to start too. I can buy another one later and still be ahead of the game.

cpttango30 · 12-09-2012, 09:15 PM

My locksmith said he could crack in to any safe.

Have you called. Send them a death certificate and they can give you the combo I bet. I've known a few guys that had to do it that way.

12-08-2012, 09:46 PM	#1
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,955	Here's the best safe that money can buy This safe is about as solid as they come. Hwever, they cost over $10,000 dollars and up. Check out the specs and steel thickness on these safe's. http://www.graffundersafes.com/produ...es-weapon.html -->

12-08-2012, 10:01 PM	#2
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy cool! If anyone here was having trouble deciding what to buy me for Christmas, this would make a great stocking stuffer..... hahaa! __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

12-08-2012, 10:15 PM	#4
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Yeah, right? that things goin' NOWHERE! Can't wait to be at my end all be-all home, I will be cementing and welding my safes in place inside of a sea-land container that is built inside of another building. 3 + secure locks to defeat, good luck! I hate thieves... __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

12-08-2012, 10:21 PM	#5
dh1984 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 6	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy That a heck of a safe there.

12-09-2012, 06:22 AM	#6
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy I have lusted after a gruffunder for a while....

12-09-2012, 07:31 AM	#7
68c15 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,057	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy combine that with a ground well supplied solar powered sprinkler system in the vault room and I would be fine. __________________ I'll go defenseless when our leaders do the same

12-09-2012, 11:22 AM	#8
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Hmmm... Idunno, I've got a huge Cannon gun safe and I can't even open it!!!

12-09-2012, 12:17 PM	#9
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy All kidding aside, I really can't open it. It was left to me by default. My stepdad died this year and took the combo with him! Not cool dadio! There's nothing in it but it sure would be nice to put my own guns in there. I mean who doesn't want one of these. Solid like the rock and boy is this sucker heavy. I mean you thought 76Highboy's dream girl was heavy, try moving this beast. It takes two muscle men and a refer dolly to make it budge and not a penny less. The best price I'm quoted for the MAN to do magic on it is 300 bones. Too rich for my blood so that'll be my last resort. Meanwhile I'm serving life as a stubborn do-it-yourselfer but after many many hours of manipulation it's no closer to being opened. Argh!!!

12-09-2012, 12:18 PM	#10
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Cannon Attached Images

12-09-2012, 12:37 PM	#11
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,615	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy I don't keep my guns in safes - they are tools - when I need them, I need them. Certainly don't want to be wasting time to open a safe to use them.

12-09-2012, 01:07 PM	#13
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Fuzebox call a lock smith any good one will have you in that sucker in under an hour tops.

12-09-2012, 04:02 PM	#16
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Well curently I keep the handguns packed inside a smaller closet safe with no room left for future pieces and I hate it when I want to get at one in the back. I keep as many long guns as I can in the gun cabinet. It's locked of course but nothing would keep a person from breaking into it. The rest of my long guns I have to keep in thier cases. My collection is about 30 strong but lusting for a safe big enough is far easier than buying it. At some point you realize that first gun you bought has turned into an addiction that you don't intend to quit and a gun safe is in your future. Then looking at safes and thinking "I can almost afford this if I don't buy any more work tools this year". But then you also know you'll outgrow it eventully so you gotta go big! Bigger than you need right now. But that monster comes with a price tag just as big so it'll have to wait. Once again I have a rich mans desires and poor mans wallet. Am I'm the only one that's been down that road? But yep, gotta have a safe! Last edited by fuzebox40; 12-09-2012 at 04:03 PM..

12-09-2012, 05:40 PM	#17
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,067	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy I am posting a link to some safes that are not only affordable, but are built very well. If you will match the steel thickness and the size of the locking bolts and the fire rating against just about any other manufacture out there, to get the same safe would cost you at least double. I know, I have done the research. http://stores.ebay.com/Pioneer-Safe?_rdc=1 Look at the specs. These are not the same as the stack ons and the safes sold at alot of the stores around town. These actually have 1/4" steel doors and 9 1 1/2" locking bolts and 1300 degree fire ratings. He will drop ship to your front door to many states for free in two days. He guarantees his product. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

12-09-2012, 07:28 PM	#21
Big Chevy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 345	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy All I know is they better be bolted down good or they end up like mine GONE!!! 2 of them

12-09-2012, 08:35 PM	#23
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Owned a smaller Graffunder a few years back. Sold it when I went thru bankruptcy and needed some cash. Sold some Spanish pistols to the same fella here in town. Loved that boat anchor. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

12-09-2012, 08:58 PM	#24
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy Yeah those prices are tastey. Especially the biggest ones. I like that they're dial locks too. Keypads are just not my style. Every time I see a big safe I'm drawn to it like a bug at the porch light so I know how expensive they are. And yes it's an investment, that's why I haven't bought one too small or too cheap just to save a buck. I won't cry a single tear if I have to shell out $300 to have this Cannon opened. You can't touch them for that price. But I couldn't live with myself either if I didn't at least give it a try myself first. I can definitely refinish it myself and I kinda like the old look of it. It's kinda like fixin up an old gun to me. Big enough place to start too. I can buy another one later and still be ahead of the game.

12-09-2012, 09:15 PM	#25
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Here's the best safe that money can buy My locksmith said he could crack in to any safe. Have you called. Send them a death certificate and they can give you the combo I bet. I've known a few guys that had to do it that way.