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Jay · 05-22-2003, 08:59 PM

For a VietNam vet to be married to the same woman for 33 years, speaks for a marriage that's doing just fine, thank you. She goes to the range with me, and shoots or reads. She doesn't want her own 'cause I help with the dishes after I eat, and I grill most of the meat we eat, and she has to clean her own guns. So she gave 'em all to me.

Both of 'em.

Sell your motorcycle, to pay your tuition, keep your guns, become President, and make the 2nd Amendment un-alterable.

At that point in time, I will give you an M12. You may NOT become President, but if you do, either me or my son WILL have an M12 to give you. Just remember me when you get in the White House.

Don't push it, or I'll withdraw my offer

pickenup · 05-23-2003, 12:15 AM

Well now, to tell ya the truth, you can even ask bubba. When I was out at the range, the wind was a howlin crosswise bout 80-90 miles an hour. The rain was so heavy that I could hardly even see the target. Water was runnin across my face like a river. Thought I was gonna drown. The rain was blowin in one ear and right out the other, it was blowin so hard. The earthquake didn’t help either. But I still kept most all of em in the bullzeye and managed to shoot a score of........

Oh wait, were supposed to save the storytelling until AFTER we go to the range. Sorry

So I take it that besides the “other” match, we are having a iron sights match also. Good idea. I printed the rifle targets that were suggested here. It will be 5 shots at 25 yards, and 5 shots at 50 yards. Best 3 targets from “each” distance for score. Rifle only. If this is not right let me know. When does this contest end?

Almost forgot, any shooting position? Prone, bags, offhand?

Jay · 05-23-2003, 06:12 AM

Greetings pickenup. We're not at all trying to compete with the "other" match. But I think iron sights are fun, and we're just gonna play a bit. By all means join us. I think it's gonna be fun. As far as I'm concerned, this "contest" should go on and on. I don't think iron sights will disappear, and basics should be visited by everyone. Shoot from any position you like. I think the best of three targets was discussed earlier, but that's no big deal. When you improve your shooting, post the target. I don't shoot prone much anymore. The other shooters keep waking me up.

z537z · 05-23-2003, 04:25 PM

Don't worry Jay, I'm goin straight to the top and I won't forget ya!

Iron sights definitely rule if you know how to use them.

Scopes are great if you have to shoot something at 50 yards. If you have it clicked in at 50 yards. And unless you've memorized the drop rate of your round (inches/100yards or whatever) which is not a linear path (and many rise after they first exit the muzzle), you're out of luck unless you're shootin at something bigger than a bird. Iron sights, of course, are easily adjustable to your yardage (well, the good ones are) and I don't give a hoot of respect to anyone who can't pick off bottles at 30/40 yards without a scope, standing.

Maybe I'll be shocked and the weather will be clear right over Brunswick this weekend and I'll go shootin.

Send sun

_z

Smokin Guns · 05-23-2003, 06:45 PM

Any of the threads!...and by any means!...just get out and shoot!.. and post your target results up...!...SG's got a three day week-end...

Jay · 05-26-2003, 02:04 PM

72 degrees, crosswind @ +/- 10 mph fairly steady.......CCI Blazer

Mossy M43 w/peeps

Stevens 416 w/peeps

z537z · 05-26-2003, 04:04 PM

Nice shootin Jay!

I think it'd be best if we all did it like this, eh?

Just post the 4 targets at 2 diff ranges.

I got my 3-dots pretty well in this weekend, well enough to hit a squirrel at 25 yds.

Hope to get out next weekend. Dang weather

_z

Jay · 05-29-2003, 09:13 PM

C'mon you guys, I'm beginnin' to think I'm all alone here

keppler · 05-29-2003, 10:43 PM

I'd like to join but it will be this weekend before I get a chance. If I can remember how to work the scanner. Opens sights just dont look the same as they did 20 years ago but I like using them sometimes.

Smokin Guns · 05-30-2003, 10:02 PM

Your never alone...I'll see what I can do this week-end...Ya leetle shooter you!...

keppler · 05-31-2003, 05:32 PM

Maybe I can get this to work.
CZ-451
25 Yds. Factory sights
Remington Golden Bullets
Winds variable 0-15

Jay · 05-31-2003, 05:47 PM

Nice job Keppler. Looks like I'm gonna have to try those golden bullets.

Jay

Smokin Guns · 05-31-2003, 07:06 PM

...downloaded waiting for tommorow...what the heck are "golden bullets"...?...

keppler · 05-31-2003, 07:51 PM

Thought I had lost the target.
CZ-451
Factory Sights
50 yards.
5 shot groups
I cheated and colored in the inner circle so I could see it...didnt help much.

Golden Bullets are Remington el-cheapos bulk pack of 550. My wife got them for a Christmas present.

Smokin Guns · 05-31-2003, 08:01 PM

We're on for tommorow!...Nice shootin' for open sights...'course that's just my opinion...

z537z · 05-31-2003, 08:25 PM

I knew there was a reason I didn't shoot open sighted, and today I realized what it was: I suck at it. I mean really really bad.

Today I got out finally, and I'm a good shooter (prob not great, but good), but my front sight was the width of 2 of those targets at 50 yards, so forget it!!!

I tried prone at 25, because I didn't want to drag the stump all the way over (it's big, it's my shooting "rest"), but that didn't go very well.

I stood at 15 as that's my usual critter distance and I did ok, but didn't shoot very carefully I was impatient by then. I can keep it within an inch from there though, if I really go for it. I got two within the (1-inch) x-ring each of the 3 targets I shot. Hey, not terrible right? Good enough for treerats.

I'll post those pics once I get a chance.

I'm tapping my receiver and putting in my weaver rails (Weaver 61M fits Romanian M69 well enough, it's got a plain flat bottom) so I can be sure of my scope, then maybe if I get any time I'll make that stock.

More later

_z

Smokin Guns · 06-01-2003, 07:14 AM

Rifle...Open sights only...

25 yds.
1. Keppler
2. Jay

50 yds.

1. Keppler
2. Jay

*Always open for adjustment based off public opinion...*

z537z · 06-01-2003, 09:50 AM

Just looked at kep's again, nice shootin man. Esp at 25.

Yeah something tells me my factory sights are more designed for shooting humans (training anyhow) than 4" targets.

You'll be putting me in a distant 3rd for 25 before too long. I mean distant.

I gotta get a scanner!

_z

keppler · 06-01-2003, 04:19 PM

Thanks fellas. Thats the first time I've shot with open sights in a while...a long while. For some reason the eyes just don't focus like they used to...I keep hearing a nasty rumer that I'm getting old. Or as my loving daughter says...old and decrepit! HAAA
I'll keep practicing tho. Its kinda fun shooting at something that you cant see but know where it is.

Smokin Guns · 06-01-2003, 08:24 PM

Armscor, Open sights, 50 yds., Gadam that's hard when ya can't even see the target...

Jay · 06-01-2003, 08:39 PM

I won't get to shoot till Wed, but I've been squintin' like hell all weekend, gettin' ready for the peep sights.

The new M12 is ready, I don't know yet if I am or not.

Jay

Wouldn't ya think there would be more than three or four of us having fun doing this??

05-22-2003, 08:59 PM	#26
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	For a VietNam vet to be married to the same woman for 33 years, speaks for a marriage that's doing just fine, thank you. She goes to the range with me, and shoots or reads. She doesn't want her own 'cause I help with the dishes after I eat, and I grill most of the meat we eat, and she has to clean her own guns. So she gave 'em all to me. Both of 'em. Sell your motorcycle, to pay your tuition, keep your guns, become President, and make the 2nd Amendment un-alterable. At that point in time, I will give you an M12. You may NOT become President, but if you do, either me or my son WILL have an M12 to give you. Just remember me when you get in the White House. Don't push it, or I'll withdraw my offer __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

05-23-2003, 12:15 AM	#27
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Well now, to tell ya the truth, you can even ask bubba. When I was out at the range, the wind was a howlin crosswise bout 80-90 miles an hour. The rain was so heavy that I could hardly even see the target. Water was runnin across my face like a river. Thought I was gonna drown. The rain was blowin in one ear and right out the other, it was blowin so hard. The earthquake didn’t help either. But I still kept most all of em in the bullzeye and managed to shoot a score of........ Oh wait, were supposed to save the storytelling until AFTER we go to the range. Sorry So I take it that besides the “other” match, we are having a iron sights match also. Good idea. I printed the rifle targets that were suggested here. It will be 5 shots at 25 yards, and 5 shots at 50 yards. Best 3 targets from “each” distance for score. Rifle only. If this is not right let me know. When does this contest end? Almost forgot, any shooting position? Prone, bags, offhand? __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine Last edited by pickenup; 05-23-2003 at 12:32 AM..

05-23-2003, 06:12 AM	#28
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Greetings pickenup. We're not at all trying to compete with the "other" match. But I think iron sights are fun, and we're just gonna play a bit. By all means join us. I think it's gonna be fun. As far as I'm concerned, this "contest" should go on and on. I don't think iron sights will disappear, and basics should be visited by everyone. Shoot from any position you like. I think the best of three targets was discussed earlier, but that's no big deal. When you improve your shooting, post the target. I don't shoot prone much anymore. The other shooters keep waking me up. __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

05-23-2003, 04:25 PM	#29
z537z Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine, love it or get the heck out Posts: 598	sounds good Don't worry Jay, I'm goin straight to the top and I won't forget ya! Iron sights definitely rule if you know how to use them. Scopes are great if you have to shoot something at 50 yards. If you have it clicked in at 50 yards. And unless you've memorized the drop rate of your round (inches/100yards or whatever) which is not a linear path (and many rise after they first exit the muzzle), you're out of luck unless you're shootin at something bigger than a bird. Iron sights, of course, are easily adjustable to your yardage (well, the good ones are) and I don't give a hoot of respect to anyone who can't pick off bottles at 30/40 yards without a scope, standing. Maybe I'll be shocked and the weather will be clear right over Brunswick this weekend and I'll go shootin. Send sun _z __________________ "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success." my pics

05-23-2003, 06:45 PM	#30
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Yep!... Any of the threads!...and by any means!...just get out and shoot!.. and post your target results up...!...SG's got a three day week-end... __________________

05-26-2003, 02:04 PM	#31
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Peep sight targets...........pics 72 degrees, crosswind @ +/- 10 mph fairly steady.......CCI Blazer Mossy M43 w/peeps Stevens 416 w/peeps __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69" Last edited by Jay; 05-31-2003 at 05:48 PM..

05-26-2003, 04:04 PM	#32
z537z Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine, love it or get the heck out Posts: 598	nice Nice shootin Jay! I think it'd be best if we all did it like this, eh? Just post the 4 targets at 2 diff ranges. I got my 3-dots pretty well in this weekend, well enough to hit a squirrel at 25 yds. Hope to get out next weekend. Dang weather _z __________________ "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success." my pics

05-29-2003, 09:13 PM	#33
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	C'mon you guys, I'm beginnin' to think I'm all alone here __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

05-29-2003, 10:43 PM	#34
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	I'd like to join but it will be this weekend before I get a chance. If I can remember how to work the scanner. Opens sights just dont look the same as they did 20 years ago but I like using them sometimes.

05-30-2003, 10:02 PM	#35
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Hey Jay!... Your never alone...I'll see what I can do this week-end...Ya leetle shooter you!... __________________

05-31-2003, 05:32 PM	#36
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Maybe I can get this to work. CZ-451 25 Yds. Factory sights Remington Golden Bullets Winds variable 0-15 Attached Images

05-31-2003, 05:47 PM	#37
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Nice job Keppler. Looks like I'm gonna have to try those golden bullets. Jay __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

05-31-2003, 07:06 PM	#38
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Midway Targets... ...downloaded waiting for tommorow...what the heck are "golden bullets"...?... __________________

05-31-2003, 07:51 PM	#39
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Thought I had lost the target. CZ-451 Factory Sights 50 yards. 5 shot groups I cheated and colored in the inner circle so I could see it...didnt help much. Golden Bullets are Remington el-cheapos bulk pack of 550. My wife got them for a Christmas present. Attached Images

05-31-2003, 08:01 PM	#40
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Yep!... We're on for tommorow!...Nice shootin' for open sights...'course that's just my opinion... __________________

05-31-2003, 08:25 PM	#41
z537z Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine, love it or get the heck out Posts: 598	hmmm I knew there was a reason I didn't shoot open sighted, and today I realized what it was: I suck at it. I mean really really bad. Today I got out finally, and I'm a good shooter (prob not great, but good), but my front sight was the width of 2 of those targets at 50 yards, so forget it!!! I tried prone at 25, because I didn't want to drag the stump all the way over (it's big, it's my shooting "rest"), but that didn't go very well. I stood at 15 as that's my usual critter distance and I did ok, but didn't shoot very carefully I was impatient by then. I can keep it within an inch from there though, if I really go for it. I got two within the (1-inch) x-ring each of the 3 targets I shot. Hey, not terrible right? Good enough for treerats. I'll post those pics once I get a chance. I'm tapping my receiver and putting in my weaver rails (Weaver 61M fits Romanian M69 well enough, it's got a plain flat bottom) so I can be sure of my scope, then maybe if I get any time I'll make that stock. More later _z __________________ "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success." my pics

06-01-2003, 07:14 AM	#42
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Stats... Rifle...Open sights only... 25 yds. 1. Keppler 2. Jay 50 yds. 1. Keppler 2. Jay Always open for adjustment based off public opinion... __________________

06-01-2003, 09:50 AM	#43
z537z Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine, love it or get the heck out Posts: 598	wow Just looked at kep's again, nice shootin man. Esp at 25. Yeah something tells me my factory sights are more designed for shooting humans (training anyhow) than 4" targets. You'll be putting me in a distant 3rd for 25 before too long. I mean distant. I gotta get a scanner! _z __________________ "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success." my pics

06-01-2003, 04:19 PM	#44
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Thanks fellas. Thats the first time I've shot with open sights in a while...a long while. For some reason the eyes just don't focus like they used to...I keep hearing a nasty rumer that I'm getting old. Or as my loving daughter says...old and decrepit! HAAA I'll keep practicing tho. Its kinda fun shooting at something that you cant see but know where it is.

06-01-2003, 08:24 PM	#45
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Hey! Armscor, Open sights, 50 yds., Gadam that's hard when ya can't even see the target... Attached Images __________________

06-01-2003, 08:39 PM	#46
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	I won't get to shoot till Wed, but I've been squintin' like hell all weekend, gettin' ready for the peep sights. The new M12 is ready, I don't know yet if I am or not. Jay Wouldn't ya think there would be more than three or four of us having fun doing this?? __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"