This boiled my blood - The Firearms Forum

satellite66 · 11-27-2005, 04:34 PM

I don't know about anyone else but this boiled my blood. Schools are out of control.

Why son refused to stand

I am the father of the young man who did not stand for the singing of the Mexican national anthem during a cultural awareness program at Larkin High School.

I have been constantly asked to explain the details of the event, and it is in response to these individuals that I offer the following facts.

Some of the students, my son included, were compelled to attend this assembly. The Mexican national anthem was printed on fliers and handed out to the attending students. The Mexican flag was marched in and placed on a podium by itself. The attendees were then asked to stand and sing the Mexican national anthem.

My son was not alone in his refusal to stand. Statements given to me by other youths and parents put the number of refusals at close to 20.

Larkin staff members immediately confronted the seated youth. Some of the students were threatened with in-school suspension; most of the seated students were intimidated into standing.

My son explained to the angry teacher who confronted him that he did not see a U.S. flag on the podium and he did not believe they were going to sing our national anthem. This teacher stated, "They have to stand for our national anthem, so you have to stand for theirs."

My son stated in response, "Yeah, but they're in our country."

The teacher called my son a punk and sent him to the office. The administrator in the office supported the teacher's demand and told my son that he could have made a more intelligent decision. My son was not formally disciplined. The teacher who confronted my son defended her actions to her students during class the following week.

I called Larkin principal Richard Webb to express my disappointment and concern. I described the manner in which my son had been treated. I was told that my son should have stood and that the school stood by its right to have this assembly in its chosen form.

I then exercised my right as a citizen and addressed the school board.

The press was present at the board meeting and media awareness snowballed from that point forward. Some of my statements to the board included, "I am disappointed that those responsible for creating an assembly intended to educate and sensitize Americans also felt free to act insensitively with regard to our culture. It is permissible to present another country's anthem alongside ours and receive standing respect. It is not reasonable to expect or demand that Americans stand and display respect for another flag and country in absence of the American anthem or flag."

I also asked the board to consider two positive actions. "First, encourage Larkin High School administrators to not underscore one culture to the exclusion of others. This ill-conceived mandatory assembly did nothing but widen the current schism. Second, I would ask the board to lay down some principles for future assemblies. While it is good educational practice to teach about other cultures, it is not an acceptable practice to require mandatory response to the patriotic elements of those cultures."

I was appalled by Webb's printed statement. Apologizing only for the "unfortunate spotlight" placed on the school does not acknowledge the process that brought the spotlight. Lack of proper oversight created an assembly that offended a large number of people. Teachers behaving badly guaranteed parental follow-through. Administrative silence and denial has perpetuated their arrogant image.

Trivializing the incident and belittling those it concerned has only confirmed Webb's lack of grounding with the community.

Since Dec. 8, 2004, educational institutions receiving federal funding are required to hold an educational program pertaining to the United States Constitution on Sept. 17 of each year. This year, Sept. 17 fell on a Saturday.

Our high school apparently chose on Sept. 16 not to hold an assembly on the Constitution of the United States, but to educate our youth on the patriotic elements of another country.

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SouthernMoss · 11-27-2005, 04:53 PM

dge479 · 12-12-2005, 02:06 PM

What an atter crock of crap. So it is ok to respectivly not say the National anthem in this country ,but it is disrespectfull not to sing the Mexican anthem.
This teacher and principal are a disgrace.

Deputy Dawg · 12-12-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMagnum

What an atter crock of crap. So it is ok to respectivly not say the National anthem in this country ,but it is disrespectfull not to sing the Mexican anthem.
This teacher and principal are a disgrace.

I agree and they should be tarred and feathered.

Carl S · 12-12-2005, 02:44 PM

There no words to adequately express my disgust and anger.

Public education is socialsit indoctrination, anti-capitalist and anti-American and a good number of the so called educators are socialist/Marxists who could not survive in a job where they had to be productive and show a profit.

lohki13 · 02-03-2006, 09:02 PM

Thats a pile of steaming of bullshit one mexico sucks home school that what my parents do it works i learn whats right and learn not to trust our government .my 2cents

southernshooter · 03-21-2006, 09:40 PM

You should be a very proud father. Too many kids now a days just follow the crowd. Its good to know their are still a few who stand up for whats right

YOU RAISED HIM WELL

Light Coat · 03-22-2006, 09:19 PM

Sounds like your schoolboard needs to dissengage their posterior calculation gearing from their chairs. If our schoolboard stood for that kind of crap; somebody would be looking for a new place to live. Little hint; I'm not leaving unless I want to. This isn't the United States of Mexico and I'll do my darndest to make sure that it never is.

rosierita · 03-23-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl S

There no words to adequately express my disgust and anger.

Public education is socialsit indoctrination, anti-capitalist and anti-American and a good number of the so called educators are socialist/Marxists who could not survive in a job where they had to be productive and show a profit.

& that's a good part of the reason i homeschool my kids!

public schools are just sickening these days!

Marlin T · 03-25-2006, 12:15 AM

This is what these school board members need

cajunboy2k · 04-01-2006, 07:17 AM

The only words i would have sung to the Mex. anthem would be "I love Taco Bell." Over and over and over, as loud as I could. Just to be an ass.

1wildbill · 04-10-2006, 07:47 AM

Your son is a young man with honor! The teacher is the punk.
Did they want them to sing it in "Mexican"?

southernshooter · 04-10-2006, 10:21 PM

WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW REBELLION BECOMES DUTY

IBFrank · 06-22-2006, 01:52 AM

Clintonism run rampant! The NEA is a nest of closet communists, degenerates, perverts and queers and should be destroyed. They are the same ones that want your kindergartener to be force fed sex education by perverted teachers.
Things like this should be exposed for the crap it is.
Good going!

11-27-2005, 04:34 PM	#1
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	This boiled my blood I don't know about anyone else but this boiled my blood. Schools are out of control. Why son refused to stand I am the father of the young man who did not stand for the singing of the Mexican national anthem during a cultural awareness program at Larkin High School. I have been constantly asked to explain the details of the event, and it is in response to these individuals that I offer the following facts. Some of the students, my son included, were compelled to attend this assembly. The Mexican national anthem was printed on fliers and handed out to the attending students. The Mexican flag was marched in and placed on a podium by itself. The attendees were then asked to stand and sing the Mexican national anthem. My son was not alone in his refusal to stand. Statements given to me by other youths and parents put the number of refusals at close to 20. Larkin staff members immediately confronted the seated youth. Some of the students were threatened with in-school suspension; most of the seated students were intimidated into standing. My son explained to the angry teacher who confronted him that he did not see a U.S. flag on the podium and he did not believe they were going to sing our national anthem. This teacher stated, "They have to stand for our national anthem, so you have to stand for theirs." My son stated in response, "Yeah, but they're in our country." The teacher called my son a punk and sent him to the office. The administrator in the office supported the teacher's demand and told my son that he could have made a more intelligent decision. My son was not formally disciplined. The teacher who confronted my son defended her actions to her students during class the following week. I called Larkin principal Richard Webb to express my disappointment and concern. I described the manner in which my son had been treated. I was told that my son should have stood and that the school stood by its right to have this assembly in its chosen form. I then exercised my right as a citizen and addressed the school board. The press was present at the board meeting and media awareness snowballed from that point forward. Some of my statements to the board included, "I am disappointed that those responsible for creating an assembly intended to educate and sensitize Americans also felt free to act insensitively with regard to our culture. It is permissible to present another country's anthem alongside ours and receive standing respect. It is not reasonable to expect or demand that Americans stand and display respect for another flag and country in absence of the American anthem or flag." I also asked the board to consider two positive actions. "First, encourage Larkin High School administrators to not underscore one culture to the exclusion of others. This ill-conceived mandatory assembly did nothing but widen the current schism. Second, I would ask the board to lay down some principles for future assemblies. While it is good educational practice to teach about other cultures, it is not an acceptable practice to require mandatory response to the patriotic elements of those cultures." I was appalled by Webb's printed statement. Apologizing only for the "unfortunate spotlight" placed on the school does not acknowledge the process that brought the spotlight. Lack of proper oversight created an assembly that offended a large number of people. Teachers behaving badly guaranteed parental follow-through. Administrative silence and denial has perpetuated their arrogant image. Trivializing the incident and belittling those it concerned has only confirmed Webb's lack of grounding with the community. Since Dec. 8, 2004, educational institutions receiving federal funding are required to hold an educational program pertaining to the United States Constitution on Sept. 17 of each year. This year, Sept. 17 fell on a Saturday. Our high school apparently chose on Sept. 16 not to hold an assembly on the Constitution of the United States, but to educate our youth on the patriotic elements of another country. Link __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948 -->

11-27-2005, 04:53 PM	#2
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Re: This boiled my blood __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

12-12-2005, 02:06 PM	#3
dge479 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haskell NJ Posts: 618	Re: This boiled my blood What an atter crock of crap. So it is ok to respectivly not say the National anthem in this country ,but it is disrespectfull not to sing the Mexican anthem. This teacher and principal are a disgrace. __________________ Proud GOA and NRA member. Old Mopars and Guns, About as good as it gets. Guns Dont Kill, Socialized Healthcare does

12-12-2005, 02:44 PM	#5
Carl S Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bunnell, FL Posts: 1,015	Re: This boiled my blood There no words to adequately express my disgust and anger. Public education is socialsit indoctrination, anti-capitalist and anti-American and a good number of the so called educators are socialist/Marxists who could not survive in a job where they had to be productive and show a profit. __________________ Carl S Old Soldier The Bill of Rights - guaranteed by the Second Amendment You can trust the government - just ask any Indian

02-03-2006, 09:02 PM	#6
lohki13 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Batcave Posts: 417	Re: This boiled my blood Thats a pile of steaming of bullshit one mexico sucks home school that what my parents do it works i learn whats right and learn not to trust our government .my 2cents

03-21-2006, 09:40 PM	#7
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: This boiled my blood You should be a very proud father. Too many kids now a days just follow the crowd. Its good to know their are still a few who stand up for whats right YOU RAISED HIM WELL __________________ Only you can see this

03-22-2006, 09:19 PM	#8
Light Coat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere, KS Posts: 466	Re: This boiled my blood Sounds like your schoolboard needs to dissengage their posterior calculation gearing from their chairs. If our schoolboard stood for that kind of crap; somebody would be looking for a new place to live. Little hint; I'm not leaving unless I want to. This isn't the United States of Mexico and I'll do my darndest to make sure that it never is.

03-25-2006, 12:15 AM	#10
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: This boiled my blood This is what these school board members need Attached Images __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

04-01-2006, 07:17 AM	#11
cajunboy2k Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2	Re: This boiled my blood The only words i would have sung to the Mex. anthem would be "I love Taco Bell." Over and over and over, as loud as I could. Just to be an ass. Last edited by cajunboy2k; 04-01-2006 at 07:21 AM..

04-10-2006, 07:47 AM	#12
1wildbill Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27	Re: This boiled my blood Your son is a young man with honor! The teacher is the punk. Did they want them to sing it in "Mexican"? __________________ Maybe someday I'll tell you the story of my Great-Grat-grandpappy, the real wild bill. NRA and TSRA , Texas CHL

04-10-2006, 10:21 PM	#13
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: This boiled my blood WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW REBELLION BECOMES DUTY __________________ Only you can see this

06-22-2006, 01:52 AM	#14
IBFrank V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: So. Ohio Posts: 51	Re: This boiled my blood Clintonism run rampant! The NEA is a nest of closet communists, degenerates, perverts and queers and should be destroyed. They are the same ones that want your kindergartener to be force fed sex education by perverted teachers. Things like this should be exposed for the crap it is. Good going!