Deleting God. - The Firearms Forum

Ursus · 08-24-2006, 04:30 PM

Exactly why do you think is such a pressure to "delete" GOD in your society. This is one of the few things I don't like about U.S.
El Salvador's flag has the words : "Dios, Unión, Libertad" (God, Union, Freedom) on it. That had not been necesarily true in our History, (specially the last two), but I certainly like the principle!!

satellite66 · 08-24-2006, 04:37 PM

If you want a good read on this subject read Ann Coutlers latest book. Godless.

Marlin · 08-24-2006, 04:38 PM

That's a terrific book. I couldn't put it down!!!!!

inplanotx · 08-24-2006, 04:57 PM

I too could not put down the book. It hits the nail square on the head. I love Ann Coulter!

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Originally Posted by ursus

Exactly why do you think is such a pressure to "delete" GOD in your society. This is one of the few things I don't like about U.S.

Because of some very liberal interpretations of our constitution and the many different religions in our country, the liberal left thinks that we are not supposed to recognize God outside of our churches or whatever.

Ursus · 08-24-2006, 09:04 PM

Still, what are the basis for these interpretations? Don't tell me that's how they understand "Religious Freedom"!!!

Bruce FLinch · 08-24-2006, 09:48 PM

Good Question Ursus.
My .02 worth.... Because we have Freedom of Religion, we also have Freedom from Religion. In the last 10 years or so, the Liberal Left Media has attempted to unsterilize American life w/ "Political Correctness". This gives any minority group permission to make a stink about anything they disagree with. Because the Media, to make & sell news, needs to exploit those concerns & blow them out of proportion. What the Majority wants is of no concern, that does not make a profit. So while 14% of Americans want to delete GOD from our society, The Media has to make sure the other 86% of us are aware of it & should get so concerned, that we should change our minds....NOT!

southernshooter · 08-24-2006, 09:59 PM

I think they are trying to delete God so they don't worry about tickin off the other folks all I can say is they are tickin me off

Marlin · 08-24-2006, 10:00 PM

Our Constitution, Bill of Rights, guarentees Freedom OF religion, i.e., we have the freedom to worship as we choose; It DOES NOT SAY, freedom FROM religion. It is the latter that the liberal/socialist/globalist folks want to force on us through activist Jurists. If they interpreted the Constitution litterally, this would NOT occur.

Religion is NOT forbidden, nor is there any such thing as "Separation" of church and state anywhere mentioned. It has been manufactured by those ilk following the line that if you say it enough some poor fools will eventually think it is so.....

The whole theory of "Political Correctness", i.e., not offending ANYONE, is not in the Constitution, Laws, Statutes or the Common Law. It has been invented and forced on us by these same mentally ill ilks....., and will be the ultimate downfall of our great REPUBLIC.

My thirty plus years on the bench and interpreting the law Have been strictly Constitutional and I still get too up tight when people flaunt the Constitution just to change the established Rule of Law.....

Now, I'll step down off my soap box before I generate a n heart attack for getting so emotional on the subject.....

satellite66 · 08-25-2006, 01:07 AM

The lefts hatred of religion with the exception of Islam stems from their desire to remove responsibility for actions by individuals. Religion by its very nature puts responsibility on the individual. Religion has very clear rules or laws of proper conduct and morality. The modern left wants to disolve these rules. Just read the news. The media, ACLU and dems defend pedophiles, NAMBLA, gay marriage, promiscuity, adultery and of course abortion. Religion teaches its followers those things are against Gods will.
Modern liberalism excuses behavior that was always considered deviant or criminal. It tells you its not the criminals fault he steals, uses drugs or murders. Look at our schools gangs and thugs rule because teachers are not allowed to discipline for fear of law suits. Parents fear being labeled abusive for demanding their kids behave.
The modern left tells us the founders were not religious men yet all our most sacred documents and institutions mention God. We know that the framers recognized that our democracys strength came from honest moral upright God fearing citizens.
What do I know I'm just a God fearing christain gun owner? According to the left I am more of an enemy than a terrorist. The left has no problem taking away a right guaranteed to me by the constitution and bestowing rights on terrorists captured on foreign soil killing our soldiers. We can't listen to terrorists phone calls because an activist judge says she sees something written in between the lines of the constitution that forbids it but the clearly written 2nd amendment is ripe with wording that begs liberal interpretation.
Okay my rant mode is off.

One more thing.

Liberalism dictates that driving a pickup truck with an NRA and or God is my co pilot bumper sticker is probable cause for cops to search your vehicle but asking a Muslim why he has fertilizer and fuel in his is racial profiling.

Ursus · 08-25-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by satellite66

The lefts hatred of religion with the exception of Islam stems from their desire to remove responsibility for actions by individuals. Religion by its very nature puts responsibility on the individual. Religion has very clear rules or laws of proper conduct and morality. The modern left wants to disolve these rules.

I think you hit the mark here. This seems to be the REAL reason behind the apparent ones.

Crpdeth · 08-25-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ursus

Exactly why do you think is such a pressure to "delete" GOD in your society.

Because the Book of Revelation has to unfold...

hoser1 · 09-18-2006, 12:55 PM

Remember "God is dead" in the 60's? Now we remove the Ten Commandments from court houses, ban prayer in schools, remove "Christ" from Christmas, etc. The anti-God crusade is gaining momentum and it will continue to do so. It is all leading up to something, isn't it? I wonder what that could be?
When it does happen, there will be NO unbelievers.
"Every head will bow and every knee will bend."

Deputy Dawg · 09-18-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser1

Remember "God is dead" in the 60's? Now we remove the Ten Commandments from court houses, ban prayer in schools, remove "Christ" from Christmas, etc. The anti-God crusade is gaining momentum and it will continue to do so. It is all leading up to something, isn't it? I wonder what that could be?
When it does happen, there will be NO unbelievers.
"Every head will bow and every knee will bend."

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!, Brother

Nighthawk · 09-18-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser1

Remember "God is dead" in the 60's? Now we remove the Ten Commandments from court houses, ban prayer in schools, remove "Christ" from Christmas, etc. The anti-God crusade is gaining momentum and it will continue to do so. It is all leading up to something, isn't it? I wonder what that could be?
When it does happen, there will be NO unbelievers.
"Every head will bow and every knee will bend."

Amen Amen

08-24-2006, 04:30 PM	#1
Ursus Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Salvador, Central America. Posts: 1,030	Deleting God. Exactly why do you think is such a pressure to "delete" GOD in your society. This is one of the few things I don't like about U.S. El Salvador's flag has the words : "Dios, Unión, Libertad" (God, Union, Freedom) on it. That had not been necesarily true in our History, (specially the last two), but I certainly like the principle!! __________________ SI VIS PACEM, PARABELLUM. -->

08-24-2006, 04:37 PM	#2
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: Deleting God. If you want a good read on this subject read Ann Coutlers latest book. Godless. __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

08-24-2006, 04:38 PM	#3
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: Deleting God. That's a terrific book. I couldn't put it down!!!!! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

08-24-2006, 09:04 PM	#5
Ursus Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Salvador, Central America. Posts: 1,030	Re: Deleting God. Still, what are the basis for these interpretations? Don't tell me that's how they understand "Religious Freedom"!!! __________________ SI VIS PACEM, PARABELLUM.

08-24-2006, 09:48 PM	#6
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: Deleting God. Good Question Ursus. My .02 worth.... Because we have Freedom of Religion, we also have Freedom from Religion. In the last 10 years or so, the Liberal Left Media has attempted to unsterilize American life w/ "Political Correctness". This gives any minority group permission to make a stink about anything they disagree with. Because the Media, to make & sell news, needs to exploit those concerns & blow them out of proportion. What the Majority wants is of no concern, that does not make a profit. So while 14% of Americans want to delete GOD from our society, The Media has to make sure the other 86% of us are aware of it & should get so concerned, that we should change our minds....NOT! __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

08-24-2006, 09:59 PM	#7
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: Deleting God. I think they are trying to delete God so they don't worry about tickin off the other folks all I can say is they are tickin me off __________________ Only you can see this

08-24-2006, 10:00 PM	#8
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: Deleting God. Our Constitution, Bill of Rights, guarentees Freedom OF religion, i.e., we have the freedom to worship as we choose; It DOES NOT SAY, freedom FROM religion. It is the latter that the liberal/socialist/globalist folks want to force on us through activist Jurists. If they interpreted the Constitution litterally, this would NOT occur. Religion is NOT forbidden, nor is there any such thing as "Separation" of church and state anywhere mentioned. It has been manufactured by those ilk following the line that if you say it enough some poor fools will eventually think it is so..... The whole theory of "Political Correctness", i.e., not offending ANYONE, is not in the Constitution, Laws, Statutes or the Common Law. It has been invented and forced on us by these same mentally ill ilks....., and will be the ultimate downfall of our great REPUBLIC. My thirty plus years on the bench and interpreting the law Have been strictly Constitutional and I still get too up tight when people flaunt the Constitution just to change the established Rule of Law..... Now, I'll step down off my soap box before I generate a n heart attack for getting so emotional on the subject..... __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

08-25-2006, 01:07 AM	#9
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: Deleting God. The lefts hatred of religion with the exception of Islam stems from their desire to remove responsibility for actions by individuals. Religion by its very nature puts responsibility on the individual. Religion has very clear rules or laws of proper conduct and morality. The modern left wants to disolve these rules. Just read the news. The media, ACLU and dems defend pedophiles, NAMBLA, gay marriage, promiscuity, adultery and of course abortion. Religion teaches its followers those things are against Gods will. Modern liberalism excuses behavior that was always considered deviant or criminal. It tells you its not the criminals fault he steals, uses drugs or murders. Look at our schools gangs and thugs rule because teachers are not allowed to discipline for fear of law suits. Parents fear being labeled abusive for demanding their kids behave. The modern left tells us the founders were not religious men yet all our most sacred documents and institutions mention God. We know that the framers recognized that our democracys strength came from honest moral upright God fearing citizens. What do I know I'm just a God fearing christain gun owner? According to the left I am more of an enemy than a terrorist. The left has no problem taking away a right guaranteed to me by the constitution and bestowing rights on terrorists captured on foreign soil killing our soldiers. We can't listen to terrorists phone calls because an activist judge says she sees something written in between the lines of the constitution that forbids it but the clearly written 2nd amendment is ripe with wording that begs liberal interpretation. Okay my rant mode is off. One more thing. Liberalism dictates that driving a pickup truck with an NRA and or God is my co pilot bumper sticker is probable cause for cops to search your vehicle but asking a Muslim why he has fertilizer and fuel in his is racial profiling. __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948 Last edited by satellite66; 08-25-2006 at 01:23 AM..

09-18-2006, 12:55 PM	#12
hoser1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ark-La-Tex Posts: 271	Re: Deleting God. Remember "God is dead" in the 60's? Now we remove the Ten Commandments from court houses, ban prayer in schools, remove "Christ" from Christmas, etc. The anti-God crusade is gaining momentum and it will continue to do so. It is all leading up to something, isn't it? I wonder what that could be? When it does happen, there will be NO unbelievers. "Every head will bow and every knee will bend."