McCain has lost it - The Firearms Forum

satellite66 · 04-30-2006, 07:27 AM

This guy wants clean government. How does violating my first amendment rights stop pols from being corrupt? He is off the wall and getting worse. Pols make gov corrupt. CFR did nothing to stop pols from being corrupt. All it did was protect incumbents and he knows this.

"He [Michael Graham] also mentioned my abridgement of First Amendment rights, i.e. talking about campaign finance reform....I know that money corrupts....I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government." John McCain on Imus show

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wolfgang2000 · 04-30-2006, 09:05 AM

McCain et al are prime examples of the reason for term limits!!

It his statement he is violateing his oath of office, in which he vows to up hold the constitution.

JohnK3 · 05-01-2006, 09:17 AM

The crucial realization to remember, when we're talking about McCain, is that he doesn't want a clean government. He wants to restrict freedom of speech in order to protect his incumbent status, to hold onto and retain power. Anything else he says is hot air.

Bernie109 · 05-09-2006, 05:52 PM

McCain has spent too much time in the hanoi Hilton. He could very well be the / a "Manchurian Candidate"

dge479 · 06-02-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnK3

The crucial realization to remember, when we're talking about McCain, is that he doesn't want a clean government. He wants to restrict freedom of speech in order to protect his incumbent status, to hold onto and retain power. Anything else he says is hot air.

I think you have nailed this solidly. I think this what he is all about.

southernshooter · 06-03-2006, 01:07 AM

Even if the polls are "uncorrupt" as he say's does he really think that would in any way shape or form help him get re-elected

Bernie109 · 06-03-2006, 10:58 PM

In order for McCain to have "Lost it" He had to have "Had it" In the first place. He might have had one too many days at the Hanoi Hilton and could very well be a "Manchurian Senator"

IBFrank · 06-05-2006, 02:22 AM

Yes, McCain never had "it" in the first place. He IS the Manchurian candidate. All he wants is power, the power to stuff his pockets while the stuffing is good. He's as power mad as Hillary. He just uses different words to say the same things liberals do.

billt · 09-19-2006, 08:47 PM

Let's just hope and pray that Romney gets the Republican nomination and not that turd. We've been putting up with him for too long already here in Arizona. Bill T.

Marlin · 09-20-2006, 10:25 AM

I AGREE WITH Bernie - - -

How could the IDIOT loose it if he never had it??????????????????

If he ever had any sense before his military, I think the Hanoi Hilton brainwashed it all out of him......

billt · 09-20-2006, 01:03 PM

I think when it all comes down to it, the fact he served on the Forrestal, and stayed at the "Hilton" isn't going to matter much to voters. In fact it could very well backfire. Remember Kerry with the Swift Boat guys. Bill T.

rosierita · 09-20-2006, 09:27 PM

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Let's just hope and pray that Romney gets the Republican nomination and not that turd. We've been putting up with him for too long already here in Arizona. Bill T.

snow balls have a better chance in hell than romney does at getting elected president.... you need the south to win & i dont see the south voting for a northeastern liberal republican... a better hope would be for george allen to get the nod. he's more conservative on a bad day, than romney is on 1 of his good 1s.

billt · 09-21-2006, 06:22 AM

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Snow balls have a better chance in hell than romney does at getting elected president.

I said that about Carter over Ford. Remember the Presidency is a beauty contest. Romney is younger, far more dynamic, a better speaker, better looking, etc. That counts for a lot. Plus, he'll carry Mass. When is the last time a Republican did that?? Women vote too, and most vote with their eyes, not their brains. Thats how Clinton won twice with less than 50% of the vote. Don't sell Romney out just yet. 2 years is a long time. What will control this more is how bad Bush keeps screwing things up for the Republicans. If he stays on this road they won't elect God himself if he is Republican! Bill T.

rosierita · 09-21-2006, 10:49 AM

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I said that about Carter over Ford. Remember the Presidency is a beauty contest. Romney is younger, far more dynamic, a better speaker, better looking, etc. That counts for a lot. Plus, he'll carry Mass. When is the last time a Republican did that?? Women vote too, and most vote with their eyes, not their brains. Thats how Clinton won twice with less than 50% of the vote. Don't sell Romney out just yet. 2 years is a long time. What will control this more is how bad Bush keeps screwing things up for the Republicans. If he stays on this road they won't elect God himself if he is Republican! Bill T.

no offense, but i dont think you know the south.

i dont count on republicans to make the same mistakes that were made when clintoon was elected. we've gone thru 9-11 since then....

ETA ~ not all republicans believe pres. bush has screwed up either. some of us recognize that he cant be all things to all people. i have been critical of him for his stance on immigration, but he's not done any worse than any other pres. in recent history concerning that....

billt · 09-21-2006, 12:28 PM

What you say may be true, however it makes zero difference because his poll numbers are lower than Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover. Personally my only bitch with Bush is he's spending like a drunken sailor, and getting us nothing for it. Yes, the war on terror costs money to fight, but 9 TRILLION for a national debt?? That I cannot buy into. And we were led to believe the Democrats were the big spenders. If the Dems. get control of the houses back in a couple of months it's only going to make Bush look worse than he is now. The Republicans had better have a canadate ready whos a hell of a lot sharper than John McCain! Bill T.

satellite66 · 09-21-2006, 02:01 PM

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The Republicans had better have a canadate ready whos a hell of a lot sharper than John McCain!

McCain is a GOP candidate? Since when? I thought he was Hillary's front man.

Marlin T · 09-21-2006, 09:07 PM

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I thought he was Hillary's front man.

AAAAAA HHAAAA HAAA HAA HA

Good one

04-30-2006, 07:27 AM	#1
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	McCain has lost it This guy wants clean government. How does violating my first amendment rights stop pols from being corrupt? He is off the wall and getting worse. Pols make gov corrupt. CFR did nothing to stop pols from being corrupt. All it did was protect incumbents and he knows this. "He [Michael Graham] also mentioned my abridgement of First Amendment rights, i.e. talking about campaign finance reform....I know that money corrupts....I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government." John McCain on Imus show Video __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948 -->

04-30-2006, 09:05 AM	#2
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: McCain has lost it McCain et al are prime examples of the reason for term limits!! It his statement he is violateing his oath of office, in which he vows to up hold the constitution. __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more!

05-01-2006, 09:17 AM	#3
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: McCain has lost it The crucial realization to remember, when we're talking about McCain, is that he doesn't want a clean government. He wants to restrict freedom of speech in order to protect his incumbent status, to hold onto and retain power. Anything else he says is hot air.

05-09-2006, 05:52 PM	#4
Bernie109 Former Guest Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central CA Posts: 274	Re: McCain has lost it McCain has spent too much time in the hanoi Hilton. He could very well be the / a "Manchurian Candidate"

06-03-2006, 01:07 AM	#6
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: McCain has lost it Even if the polls are "uncorrupt" as he say's does he really think that would in any way shape or form help him get re-elected __________________ Only you can see this

06-03-2006, 10:58 PM	#7
Bernie109 Former Guest Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central CA Posts: 274	Re: McCain has lost it In order for McCain to have "Lost it" He had to have "Had it" In the first place. He might have had one too many days at the Hanoi Hilton and could very well be a "Manchurian Senator"

06-05-2006, 02:22 AM	#8
IBFrank V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: So. Ohio Posts: 51	Re: McCain has lost it Yes, McCain never had "it" in the first place. He IS the Manchurian candidate. All he wants is power, the power to stuff his pockets while the stuffing is good. He's as power mad as Hillary. He just uses different words to say the same things liberals do.

09-19-2006, 08:47 PM	#9
billt Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 94	Re: McCain has lost it Let's just hope and pray that Romney gets the Republican nomination and not that turd. We've been putting up with him for too long already here in Arizona. Bill T.

09-20-2006, 10:25 AM	#10
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: McCain has lost it I AGREE WITH Bernie - - - How could the IDIOT loose it if he never had it?????????????????? If he ever had any sense before his military, I think the Hanoi Hilton brainwashed it all out of him...... __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

09-20-2006, 01:03 PM	#11
billt Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 94	Re: McCain has lost it I think when it all comes down to it, the fact he served on the Forrestal, and stayed at the "Hilton" isn't going to matter much to voters. In fact it could very well backfire. Remember Kerry with the Swift Boat guys. Bill T.

09-21-2006, 12:28 PM	#15
billt Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 94	Re: McCain has lost it What you say may be true, however it makes zero difference because his poll numbers are lower than Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover. Personally my only bitch with Bush is he's spending like a drunken sailor, and getting us nothing for it. Yes, the war on terror costs money to fight, but 9 TRILLION for a national debt?? That I cannot buy into. And we were led to believe the Democrats were the big spenders. If the Dems. get control of the houses back in a couple of months it's only going to make Bush look worse than he is now. The Republicans had better have a canadate ready whos a hell of a lot sharper than John McCain! Bill T.