comparable to .223 - The Firearms Forum

rik · 06-18-2003, 08:55 PM

He all it's rik again, got another question.

what other round/calibur would be comparable to a .223? I really like that the .223 doesn't have much kick, but it packs a bit of a punch. I would like something that is percise, and relatively cheap to shoot, which .223 is compared to some.

any ideas would help

rik

06-18-2003, 09:28 PM

Hi rik

I thought of a couple right away until you said the part about cheap to shoot. That knocks the others out and leaves the 7.62x39

If you had not specified cheap to shoot I would have said the 22-250. it packs more munch than the 223 and is accurate. THere are others as well. 220 ect, ect,

One of the reasons the .223 is so popular is the $$$ factor

1952Sniper · 06-19-2003, 08:52 AM

I would have to agree. The .223 is usually somewhere around 1350 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, where the 7.62x39 is usually around 1470 ft-lbs. So the 7.62x39 packs a slightly harder punch, but is still very manageable.

Not to mention that you'll find firearms that fire 7.62x39 much cheaper than .223.

Xracer · 06-19-2003, 08:55 AM

In the "light recoil, accurate & cheap" area, .223 is your best bet.

The 7.62x39 has light recoil and is cheap, but nowhere near as accurate as .223.

There are a lot of other 22 caliber rounds out there that have light recoil and are accurate, but they're pretty expen$ive.

FN_Project90 · 06-19-2003, 02:08 PM

ballistically the 22-250 beats the doo doo out of a .223 form what I have read, shoots a little hotter a little faster etc.
won't be cheaper for a while yet, as you can get 14 million .223 rounds on reserve for a nickel a piece

rik · 06-20-2003, 03:53 PM

FN_Project90
Where can I get .223 for .5$ a piece????????

rik

Smokin Guns · 06-20-2003, 06:13 PM

rik, I'm a'thinkin he meant .05...and I would like to know where also?...the cheapest i've seen around with shipping is around...,.012 cents...FN_...give up yer secret?...Shooter's is waitin'...

rik · 06-20-2003, 08:26 PM

Hey .12$ is better than the .25$ that I would pay at walmart.
Where are the .12s at.

also I've hear talk about surpluss loads being corrosive? whats the deal on that???

Smokin Guns · 06-20-2003, 08:58 PM

rik, GB usually has a lot of .223 Ammo...up for auction...usually 1000 rds.,...I've bought a lot of ammo from this feller!...sometimes slow delivery, but has always delivered!...

http://www.*********.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=9764188

FN_Project90 · 06-20-2003, 11:52 PM

I was exagerating a little
and yes I have seen it for $0.05 a piece, that was if you bought over 50,000 rounds, it was from an old website, before gun sales online were as moderated, it was a russian surplus store, that sold everything including jets and tanks.

inplanotx · 06-21-2003, 09:14 AM

Cheaper than dirt has the following:

Product Description: Ammo .223 SS109, 62g 20-Rd Box Military Penetrator FMJ Brass
Catalog Item #: AMM-202 Mfg Item #: AM1106

For $4.07 per box or about $0.20 per round

They also have this:

Product Description: Ammo .223 62gr Hollow Pt 20-Rd Box Nickel Steel Case 20-Rd Bx
Catalog Item #: AMM-228 Mfg Item #: AMM228

For $2.89 a box or about $0.145 per round (This is Russian)

Then we have this in 7.62x39 surplus

Product Description: Ammo 7.62x39 FMJ 700-Rd Tin FMJ 122gr Non-Corr Sealed Tin
Catalog Item #: AMM-637 Mfg Item #: AMM637

For $64.97 or $0.093 per round.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/d...M9BTSQRUA7488B

Good luck in your choice. The only thing that is not mentioned here is the difference in down range energy. The .223 at 200 yrds has an energy of 709 ft/lbs vs the 7.62x39 which has 1800 ft.lbs.

Good luck in your choice. I would opt for the .223.

FN_Project90 · 06-21-2003, 12:57 PM

from a local store I get .308 ammo .17 a round for 900 rounds

06-18-2003, 08:55 PM	#1
rik Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	comparable to .223 He all it's rik again, got another question. what other round/calibur would be comparable to a .223? I really like that the .223 doesn't have much kick, but it packs a bit of a punch. I would like something that is percise, and relatively cheap to shoot, which .223 is compared to some. any ideas would help rik -->

06-19-2003, 02:08 PM	#5
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	ballistically the 22-250 beats the doo doo out of a .223 form what I have read, shoots a little hotter a little faster etc. won't be cheaper for a while yet, as you can get 14 million .223 rounds on reserve for a nickel a piece __________________ Things n' Stuff

06-20-2003, 03:53 PM	#6
rik Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	.223 .5 ap FN_Project90 Where can I get .223 for .5$ a piece???????? rik

06-20-2003, 06:13 PM	#7
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	rik, I'm a'thinkin he meant .05...and I would like to know where also?...the cheapest i've seen around with shipping is around...,.012 cents...FN_...give up yer secret?...Shooter's is waitin'... __________________

06-20-2003, 08:26 PM	#8
rik Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	yeah .05$ Hey .12$ is better than the .25$ that I would pay at walmart. Where are the .12s at. also I've hear talk about surpluss loads being corrosive? whats the deal on that???

06-18-2003, 09:28 PM	#2
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Hi rik I thought of a couple right away until you said the part about cheap to shoot. That knocks the others out and leaves the 7.62x39 If you had not specified cheap to shoot I would have said the 22-250. it packs more munch than the 223 and is accurate. THere are others as well. 220 ect, ect, One of the reasons the .223 is so popular is the $$$ factor

06-19-2003, 08:52 AM	#3
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	I would have to agree. The .223 is usually somewhere around 1350 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, where the 7.62x39 is usually around 1470 ft-lbs. So the 7.62x39 packs a slightly harder punch, but is still very manageable. Not to mention that you'll find firearms that fire 7.62x39 much cheaper than .223.

06-19-2003, 08:55 AM	#4
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	In the "light recoil, accurate & cheap" area, .223 is your best bet. The 7.62x39 has light recoil and is cheap, but nowhere near as accurate as .223. There are a lot of other 22 caliber rounds out there that have light recoil and are accurate, but they're pretty expen$ive.

06-20-2003, 08:58 PM	#9
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	rik, GB usually has a lot of .223 Ammo...up for auction...usually 1000 rds.,...I've bought a lot of ammo from this feller!...sometimes slow delivery, but has always delivered!... http://www.*********.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=9764188 __________________

06-20-2003, 11:52 PM	#10
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	I was exagerating a little and yes I have seen it for $0.05 a piece, that was if you bought over 50,000 rounds, it was from an old website, before gun sales online were as moderated, it was a russian surplus store, that sold everything including jets and tanks. __________________ Things n' Stuff

06-21-2003, 09:14 AM	#11
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	Cheaper than dirt has the following: Product Description: Ammo .223 SS109, 62g 20-Rd Box Military Penetrator FMJ Brass Catalog Item #: AMM-202 Mfg Item #: AM1106 For $4.07 per box or about $0.20 per round They also have this: Product Description: Ammo .223 62gr Hollow Pt 20-Rd Box Nickel Steel Case 20-Rd Bx Catalog Item #: AMM-228 Mfg Item #: AMM228 For $2.89 a box or about $0.145 per round (This is Russian) Then we have this in 7.62x39 surplus Product Description: Ammo 7.62x39 FMJ 700-Rd Tin FMJ 122gr Non-Corr Sealed Tin Catalog Item #: AMM-637 Mfg Item #: AMM637 For $64.97 or $0.093 per round. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/d...M9BTSQRUA7488B Good luck in your choice. The only thing that is not mentioned here is the difference in down range energy. The .223 at 200 yrds has an energy of 709 ft/lbs vs the 7.62x39 which has 1800 ft.lbs. Good luck in your choice. I would opt for the .223. __________________ Last edited by inplanotx; 06-21-2003 at 09:15 AM..

06-21-2003, 12:57 PM	#12
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	from a local store I get .308 ammo .17 a round for 900 rounds __________________ Things n' Stuff