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shooter · 10-11-2006, 11:27 AM

was reading over at the sig forum the thread "What is the worst pistol you ever owned?"

a couple stuck in my head..one was the Kimbers...i dont know much about them except i shot one at the range..no prbs that remember..they look nice thats for sure and the price isnt too bad..but lots of people complained about them

next was the paro ord ..there again they look like great guns, i like the hi cap 45 mags, which is a major plus..but there again i saw them pop up about every page with a complaint.

also a few complaints..very few that is was the springfields

these actually are my choices for a 1911..and i found it dissappointing that all 3 got some bad press...with the springfield being the one with the fewest complaints ..para second and kimber having the most complaints

thougts???

inplanotx · 10-11-2006, 11:32 AM

I don't know who is complaining over there, but Kimbers and Springfields are highly regarded over here. Just sift through this forum and see. I do not own a Kimber, but I do have a Springfield V10 and love it, never had a problem.

I do not like Para's because I have small hands and the Para is too wide for me.

Good luck, but you can't go wrong with what I wrote.

IPT

Shooter45 · 10-11-2006, 12:00 PM

Maybe the guys bashing the Kimbers and Springfields just can't handle a 1911.

This pic is of my Kimber Custom Target 1911 in .45 acp. The target is a 3" dot and was shot at a distance of 50 yards. Twenty rounds fired and all hit the target. I've owned Springfields that will do almost as good with a little work. Para's need alot of work to be accurate pistols but will hold a good group afterward.

Let 'um bash away. I have never personally seen a Sig do better.

A few of us know better.

shooter · 10-11-2006, 12:11 PM

i think the kimber that got the worst rap was the TLE ?
and i saw someting about the external extractor getting bad reviews..but when they had it fixed and put in a internal extractor..prb solved

BIGBOOMER · 10-11-2006, 04:07 PM

I have a couple of Para-Ords in 45 ACP and I like them just fine. Both of mine are single-stacks.
Best regards, BIGBOOMER

azsigman · 10-11-2006, 05:54 PM

I, too, have seen the complaints about Kimber. I have a Pro Carry ll that I love. Any gun will seem to have people that hate them but the number of proponents far outnumber them.

ironsight65 · 10-11-2006, 07:08 PM

I have a Kimber TLE II. Never had a problem. Great gun
as far as I'm concerned.

southernshooter · 10-11-2006, 10:59 PM

I really like the Springfields but I am partial to Springfields. So my .02 don't count

LurpyGeek · 10-12-2006, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooter

"...What is the worst pistol you ever owned?"

a couple stuck in my head..one was the Kimbers...i dont know much about them except i shot one at the range..no prbs that remember..they look nice thats for sure and the price isnt too bad..but lots of people complained about them

next was the paro ord ..there again they look like great guns, i like the hi cap 45 mags, which is a major plus..but there again i saw them pop up about every page with a complaint.

also a few complaints..very few that is was the springfields

I don't know if "a few complaints" for each of them would qualify any for the title of "the worst pistol you've ever owned."

Also, what are the specific complaints? One person might complain that a grip is too big, another too small. Someone might say that one is too heavy... All of these are opinions depending on peoples preferences. A firearm with repeated FTF or FTE would be a valid complaint.

stetson · 10-23-2006, 07:46 PM

I have a loaded hi cap Springfield 1911 that I really like to shoot.It's been very dependable with no issues.I will change the sights at some point though
because Ifind them small compare to other pistols.My hands are large enough
to accomindate the wide grip for double stacked magazine.

AL MOUNT · 10-24-2006, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooter

was reading over at the sig forum the thread "What is the worst pistol you ever owned?"

Shooter...that's like going to a Dumocrap web site and

wondering why there bad mouthing Republicans........

Xracer · 10-24-2006, 01:08 PM

I know several Kimber and Springfield owners, and all of 'em like their guns.

I've shot both Kimbers & Springfields, and both shoot just fine.

If you like 1911's, know how to shoot them, and are comfortable with the recoil, then either a Kimber or Springfield will be fine for you.

berto64 · 10-24-2006, 09:06 PM

Worst pistol I ever owned was a (gasp) 1911. A older Llama 1911. Wouldn't ramp consistantly, stovepiped frequently, and an all-around pain in the a$$!

The guy that has it now thinks it's the Cat's Meow. Good for him.

AL MOUNT · 10-24-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berto64

Worst pistol I ever owned was a Llama . Wouldn't ramp consistantly, stovepiped frequently

Just a guess.....

But I think I know what yer problem is/was.........

Lama, Llama, Llama, Llama ding dong.....

Or was that "rama llama ding dong" ?......

....I can never remember....

Oneida Steve · 10-25-2006, 11:28 AM

Como se llama? El junko.

Pistolenschutze · 10-25-2006, 05:07 PM

Now be nice, Al, Llamas are very nice. I just saw a beautiful one the other day . . . at the petting zoo.

southernshooter · 10-25-2006, 09:42 PM

Bruce FLinch · 10-25-2006, 09:50 PM

I think Al Mount hit the nail on the head.
My Para P1640 has been a great pistol & better since I put in a Schuman barrel & Novak sight.
Just breaking in a P1445, & the only complaint is the thumb safety is too skinny.
I wanted a Springfield Hi-Cap, but not in Kaliforny!

Shooter45 · 10-25-2006, 10:01 PM

A few years I used a Para-Ordnance P-16 built by Ken Hallock in IPSC Ltd. class. Briley ramped barrel, Bo-Mar adj rear sight, Videcki trigger,etc. It was a very accurate 1911. Someone offered me alot of cash for that pistol and I let them have it. I had planned to break out my Wilson Combat super grade to finish out the season. I never got the Wilson out of the vault. I used one of my Kimbers instead.

mtnboomer · 10-26-2006, 08:52 PM

Shooter's Arms Manufacturing (SAM) made in the Phillipines. Paid $300 and change for it new. Ran nearly 300 rounds through it without cleaning - no jams, no stoppages, no problems! It beat out a new P-14 that had 2 stovepipes in that same 300 rounds!

AL MOUNT · 10-26-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistolenschutze

Now be nice, Al, Llamas are very nice. I just saw a beautiful one the other day . . . at the petting zoo.

I had a beautiful little Llama in .45 auto, I loved it......

until I fired a few rounds thru it.........

It was at that point I realized this firearm was better suited to be a "rain guage",

(due to frequent stove pipes).....

than a weapon for self protection....

southernshooter · 10-26-2006, 09:52 PM

blackhawkkid308 · 11-24-2006, 08:37 PM

here are my children, springfields, colts, kimbers, a llama, and a wilson and i love them all. from 9mm, 38 super, and 45.
bhk308

10-11-2006, 11:27 AM	#1
shooter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NC Posts: 79	1911 owners come on in was reading over at the sig forum the thread "What is the worst pistol you ever owned?" a couple stuck in my head..one was the Kimbers...i dont know much about them except i shot one at the range..no prbs that remember..they look nice thats for sure and the price isnt too bad..but lots of people complained about them next was the paro ord ..there again they look like great guns, i like the hi cap 45 mags, which is a major plus..but there again i saw them pop up about every page with a complaint. also a few complaints..very few that is was the springfields these actually are my choices for a 1911..and i found it dissappointing that all 3 got some bad press...with the springfield being the one with the fewest complaints ..para second and kimber having the most complaints thougts??? -->

10-11-2006, 11:32 AM	#2
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	Re: 1911 owners come on in I don't know who is complaining over there, but Kimbers and Springfields are highly regarded over here. Just sift through this forum and see. I do not own a Kimber, but I do have a Springfield V10 and love it, never had a problem. I do not like Para's because I have small hands and the Para is too wide for me. Good luck, but you can't go wrong with what I wrote. IPT __________________

10-11-2006, 12:00 PM	#3
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,789	Re: 1911 owners come on in Maybe the guys bashing the Kimbers and Springfields just can't handle a 1911. This pic is of my Kimber Custom Target 1911 in .45 acp. The target is a 3" dot and was shot at a distance of 50 yards. Twenty rounds fired and all hit the target. I've owned Springfields that will do almost as good with a little work. Para's need alot of work to be accurate pistols but will hold a good group afterward. Let 'um bash away. I have never personally seen a Sig do better. A few of us know better. Attached Images

10-11-2006, 12:11 PM	#4
shooter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NC Posts: 79	Re: 1911 owners come on in i think the kimber that got the worst rap was the TLE ? and i saw someting about the external extractor getting bad reviews..but when they had it fixed and put in a internal extractor..prb solved

10-11-2006, 04:07 PM	#5
BIGBOOMER V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 265	Re: 1911 owners come on in I have a couple of Para-Ords in 45 ACP and I like them just fine. Both of mine are single-stacks. Best regards, BIGBOOMER __________________ Use Enough Gun. Do all your hunting BEFORE you shoot!

10-11-2006, 05:54 PM	#6
azsigman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 320	Re: 1911 owners come on in I, too, have seen the complaints about Kimber. I have a Pro Carry ll that I love. Any gun will seem to have people that hate them but the number of proponents far outnumber them.

10-11-2006, 07:08 PM	#7
ironsight65 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 458	Re: 1911 owners come on in I have a Kimber TLE II. Never had a problem. Great gun as far as I'm concerned.

10-11-2006, 10:59 PM	#8
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: 1911 owners come on in I really like the Springfields but I am partial to Springfields. So my .02 don't count __________________ Only you can see this

10-23-2006, 07:46 PM	#10
stetson V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 198	Re: 1911 owners come on in I have a loaded hi cap Springfield 1911 that I really like to shoot.It's been very dependable with no issues.I will change the sights at some point though because Ifind them small compare to other pistols.My hands are large enough to accomindate the wide grip for double stacked magazine.

10-24-2006, 01:08 PM	#12
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Re: 1911 owners come on in I know several Kimber and Springfield owners, and all of 'em like their guns. I've shot both Kimbers & Springfields, and both shoot just fine. If you like 1911's, know how to shoot them, and are comfortable with the recoil, then either a Kimber or Springfield will be fine for you.

10-24-2006, 09:06 PM	#13
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,394	Re: 1911 owners come on in Worst pistol I ever owned was a (gasp) 1911. A older Llama 1911. Wouldn't ramp consistantly, stovepiped frequently, and an all-around pain in the a$$! The guy that has it now thinks it's the Cat's Meow. Good for him. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

10-25-2006, 11:28 AM	#15
Oneida Steve Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,029	Re: 1911 owners come on in Como se llama? El junko.

10-25-2006, 05:07 PM	#16
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: 1911 owners come on in Now be nice, Al, Llamas are very nice. I just saw a beautiful one the other day . . . at the petting zoo. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

10-25-2006, 09:42 PM	#17
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: 1911 owners come on in __________________ Only you can see this

10-25-2006, 09:50 PM	#18
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: 1911 owners come on in I think Al Mount hit the nail on the head. My Para P1640 has been a great pistol & better since I put in a Schuman barrel & Novak sight. Just breaking in a P1445, & the only complaint is the thumb safety is too skinny. I wanted a Springfield Hi-Cap, but not in Kaliforny! __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

10-25-2006, 10:01 PM	#19
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,789	Re: 1911 owners come on in A few years I used a Para-Ordnance P-16 built by Ken Hallock in IPSC Ltd. class. Briley ramped barrel, Bo-Mar adj rear sight, Videcki trigger,etc. It was a very accurate 1911. Someone offered me alot of cash for that pistol and I let them have it. I had planned to break out my Wilson Combat super grade to finish out the season. I never got the Wilson out of the vault. I used one of my Kimbers instead.

10-26-2006, 08:52 PM	#20
mtnboomer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oklahoma by birth. America by the grace of God. Posts: 649	Re: 1911 owners come on in Shooter's Arms Manufacturing (SAM) made in the Phillipines. Paid $300 and change for it new. Ran nearly 300 rounds through it without cleaning - no jams, no stoppages, no problems! It beat out a new P-14 that had 2 stovepipes in that same 300 rounds! Attached Images __________________ The cost of freedom, is eternal vigilance. The cost of bondage, is your life. - mtnboomer Support the Second Amendment - Join the NRA! > http://www.nra.org < Oklahoma State - #1 - GO POKES!

10-26-2006, 09:52 PM	#22
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: 1911 owners come on in __________________ Only you can see this

11-24-2006, 08:37 PM	#23
blackhawkkid308 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: pensacola florida Posts: 871	Re: 1911 owners come on in here are my children, springfields, colts, kimbers, a llama, and a wilson and i love them all. from 9mm, 38 super, and 45. bhk308 __________________ 9-11-01 lest we forget AMEN