Civil War Revolver Outfit - The Firearms Forum

Buford Allen · 06-06-2004, 10:50 AM

I am wanting to buy a Civil War Revolver Outfit with an 1851 Navy .44cal. There is one at a local gun shop for $180.00. Is this a fair price or is there somewhere that I might could get it cheaper.

Also, the kit says CVA but I cannot find it under CVA. Is the revolver made by Traditions for sell by CVA?

merc · 06-07-2004, 05:33 PM

Buford
$180 is a decent price for the whole shapang.
Your lucky to find a decent used BP pistol for 200.
Here is my 1851 Navy.

inplanotx · 06-07-2004, 06:33 PM

That is one nice looking pistol, Merc. Do you have more info on it? Please let us know. Thanks

Buford Allen · 06-07-2004, 10:12 PM

"Wow". Excellent pistol, Merc. The fluted cylinder really makes that pistol. What I'm looking for isn't nearly that fancy. That looks to me like a pistol to truly be proud of, thanks for sharing.

jgr1974 · 06-12-2004, 01:34 PM

Buford,

I asume this is a new pistol? If so I would say the kit is well worth the price! If used be wary! It appears to be a brass frame! Some people like to overload brass frame revolvers, and they tend to shoot loose after being abused with heavy loads.
If it is new and you follow manufactures loading instructiions it should last you a long time! I prefer steel frame pistols myself! They are well worth the $20-$30 extra, and are less apt to shoot loose!

Buford Allen · 06-12-2004, 11:05 PM

Yeah, it's new. I agree with you on the pistols with steel frames, but I'm a Southern boy and would prefer one of those old "Reb" revolvers that originally had frames made from melted down church bells. Don't get me wrong. I got nothing against "Yanks", I just want to stay with my heritage.

merc · 06-13-2004, 08:41 AM

Buford
I say go for it. There is something special in brass frame BP revolvers.
As you pointed out the south has a historical connection with them oin the civil war.

Marlin · 06-13-2004, 09:04 AM

If you're going for Historical Accuracy, which any historian or nistory buff shoud, it brass is the ONLY way.

More power to you and good luck!

Buford Allen · 06-15-2004, 09:41 PM

OK, I am planning on getting my 1851 Navy .44 this weekend, if all goes well. I need to know how likely and what degree of danger is there in a cap & ball revolver chain firing? What can I do to prevent this from happening. A co-worker told me that I can put bore butter over the balls after they are loaded in the cylinder to prevent any flash from getting to the powder underneath. This sounds OK but might be a little messy, especially if I holster the pistol at the range. Is there something else I can use that won't melt and run everywhere? I currently have 2 muzzleloaders and have had others in the past, but this will be my first revolver. I want to enjoy shooting it without worrying about how dangerous it might be.

Thanks, Buford Allen

Xracer · 06-16-2004, 08:31 AM

If you're interested in historical accuracy......the 1851 Navy was never made in 44 caliber. It was .36.

woodsrunner · 06-16-2004, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buford Allen

OK, I am planning on getting my 1851 Navy .44 this weekend, if all goes well. I need to know how likely and what degree of danger is there in a cap & ball revolver chain firing? What can I do to prevent this from happening. A co-worker told me that I can put bore butter over the balls after they are loaded in the cylinder to prevent any flash from getting to the powder underneath. This sounds OK but might be a little messy, especially if I holster the pistol at the range. Is there something else I can use that won't melt and run everywhere? I currently have 2 muzzleloaders and have had others in the past, but this will be my first revolver. I want to enjoy shooting it without worrying about how dangerous it might be.

Thanks, Buford Allen

I mix beeswax and crisco 50/50 in a double boiler. After mixing I pour it into old shoe shine cans to cool. This is fairly stiff and doesn't run as bad as other lubes in hot weather. It does still run in the heat though. The disadvantage is the stiffness of the lube. You can spread bore butter or any of the equivelants with your fingers. My lube is going to require a tool such as a knife to apply it.

You can also get wonder wads to put under the ball and over the powder. Personally I prefer the lube over the ball as it helps keep the fouling soft.

merc · 06-16-2004, 07:40 PM

In the old days they used any kind of animal fat they could get to cover the balls after loading.
I have read that any kind of lard will work. I have used Crisco and find no problem.
I have also read that a chain fire while likely is really not all that common if any common sense is applied and is really more scary than dangerous. Although I don't want to be the guinee pig.
Cover the cylinders with any kind of grease to keep sparks from igniting the next door hole and you will be fine.
Remember --this is fun--not something to get worried over if you keep safety in mind.

Buford Allen · 06-16-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xracer

If you're interested in historical accuracy......the 1851 Navy was never made in 44 caliber. It was .36.

Yeah, That's what I thought. A guy I work with has 2 .36cal. 1851's. The one I'm gonna get is a .44. I like the look of the larger cal. and the octagon barrel. I'm not a genuine history buff, I just know the Confederacy had the brass frame revolvers.

Coltonator · 03-02-2007, 12:32 AM

YANKS RULE!!!

06-06-2004, 10:50 AM	#1
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Civil War Revolver Outfit I am wanting to buy a Civil War Revolver Outfit with an 1851 Navy .44cal. There is one at a local gun shop for $180.00. Is this a fair price or is there somewhere that I might could get it cheaper. Also, the kit says CVA but I cannot find it under CVA. Is the revolver made by Traditions for sell by CVA? __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?" -->

06-07-2004, 05:33 PM	#2
merc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pelham, NH Posts: 309	Buford $180 is a decent price for the whole shapang. Your lucky to find a decent used BP pistol for 200. Here is my 1851 Navy. Attached Images __________________ Merc Living without Liberty is not Living

06-07-2004, 06:33 PM	#3
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	That is one nice looking pistol, Merc. Do you have more info on it? Please let us know. Thanks __________________

06-07-2004, 10:12 PM	#4
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	"Wow". Excellent pistol, Merc. The fluted cylinder really makes that pistol. What I'm looking for isn't nearly that fancy. That looks to me like a pistol to truly be proud of, thanks for sharing. __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

06-12-2004, 11:05 PM	#6
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Yeah, it's new. I agree with you on the pistols with steel frames, but I'm a Southern boy and would prefer one of those old "Reb" revolvers that originally had frames made from melted down church bells. Don't get me wrong. I got nothing against "Yanks", I just want to stay with my heritage. __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

06-12-2004, 01:34 PM	#5
jgr1974 Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: illinois Posts: 6	Buford, I asume this is a new pistol? If so I would say the kit is well worth the price! If used be wary! It appears to be a brass frame! Some people like to overload brass frame revolvers, and they tend to shoot loose after being abused with heavy loads. If it is new and you follow manufactures loading instructiions it should last you a long time! I prefer steel frame pistols myself! They are well worth the $20-$30 extra, and are less apt to shoot loose!

06-13-2004, 08:41 AM	#7
merc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pelham, NH Posts: 309	Buford I say go for it. There is something special in brass frame BP revolvers. As you pointed out the south has a historical connection with them oin the civil war. __________________ Merc Living without Liberty is not Living

06-13-2004, 09:04 AM	#8
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	If you're going for Historical Accuracy, which any historian or nistory buff shoud, it brass is the ONLY way. More power to you and good luck! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

06-15-2004, 09:41 PM	#9
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	OK, I am planning on getting my 1851 Navy .44 this weekend, if all goes well. I need to know how likely and what degree of danger is there in a cap & ball revolver chain firing? What can I do to prevent this from happening. A co-worker told me that I can put bore butter over the balls after they are loaded in the cylinder to prevent any flash from getting to the powder underneath. This sounds OK but might be a little messy, especially if I holster the pistol at the range. Is there something else I can use that won't melt and run everywhere? I currently have 2 muzzleloaders and have had others in the past, but this will be my first revolver. I want to enjoy shooting it without worrying about how dangerous it might be. Thanks, Buford Allen __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

06-16-2004, 08:31 AM	#10
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	If you're interested in historical accuracy......the 1851 Navy was never made in 44 caliber. It was .36.

06-16-2004, 07:40 PM	#12
merc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pelham, NH Posts: 309	In the old days they used any kind of animal fat they could get to cover the balls after loading. I have read that any kind of lard will work. I have used Crisco and find no problem. I have also read that a chain fire while likely is really not all that common if any common sense is applied and is really more scary than dangerous. Although I don't want to be the guinee pig. Cover the cylinders with any kind of grease to keep sparks from igniting the next door hole and you will be fine. Remember --this is fun--not something to get worried over if you keep safety in mind. __________________ Merc Living without Liberty is not Living

03-02-2007, 12:32 AM	#14
Coltonator V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 201	Re: Civil War Revolver Outfit YANKS RULE!!! __________________ <