Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign - The Firearms Forum

Rommelvon · 05-02-2007, 12:46 AM

You have to watch these nimrods like children

GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN
BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.

“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”

charagrin · 05-02-2007, 06:03 AM

Indeed, thats is the whole point of democratsy. To NOT allow any one person control of another without due reason. And a vague "He might be a bad guy so dont allow him his rights" rule wouldnt last long. After awhile anyone the Controller doesnt like or has ever had a problem with wont be able to get a gun or anything gun related.

satellite66 · 05-02-2007, 06:43 AM

Lautenberg should not even be a senator except for the breaking of the law by the left leaning NJ supremes. They pulled a real fast one to get him on the ballot. Someone please explain to me again how we should not fear liberal dems and their agenda? Please explain how anyone with any integrity can trust a dem?

obxned · 05-02-2007, 02:00 PM

Does anyone in Washington know anything about our Constitution????

pickenup · 05-02-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rommelvon

is cause for him to step down

AGREED

Havoc · 05-02-2007, 05:34 PM

Gonzales is proving once again to be a complete moron. I could see NON-CITIZENS maybe. He's lost all credibility.

Bruce FLinch · 05-02-2007, 07:41 PM

Now Gonsales has worn out his welcome. Pandering to the Libs.

05-02-2007, 12:46 AM	#1
Rommelvon Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 1,452	Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign You have to watch these nimrods like children GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today. The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good. “This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list. “The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process? “We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime. “Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.” __________________ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. --Thomas Jefferson American By Birth, Southern By The Grace Of God Deo vindice "Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less.” Robert E Lee -->

05-02-2007, 06:03 AM	#2
charagrin Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 451	Re: Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign Indeed, thats is the whole point of democratsy. To NOT allow any one person control of another without due reason. And a vague "He might be a bad guy so dont allow him his rights" rule wouldnt last long. After awhile anyone the Controller doesnt like or has ever had a problem with wont be able to get a gun or anything gun related.

05-02-2007, 06:43 AM	#3
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign Lautenberg should not even be a senator except for the breaking of the law by the left leaning NJ supremes. They pulled a real fast one to get him on the ballot. Someone please explain to me again how we should not fear liberal dems and their agenda? Please explain how anyone with any integrity can trust a dem? __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

05-02-2007, 02:00 PM	#4
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign Does anyone in Washington know anything about our Constitution???? __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

05-02-2007, 05:34 PM	#6
Havoc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 100	Re: Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign Gonzales is proving once again to be a complete moron. I could see NON-CITIZENS maybe. He's lost all credibility.

05-02-2007, 07:41 PM	#7
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: Gonzales Wants Arbitrary Power To Block Gun Purchases; Saf Says He Should Resign Now Gonsales has worn out his welcome. Pandering to the Libs. __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.