New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions - The Firearms Forum

Spanky · 05-09-2007, 09:47 PM

After loading the ball into the revolver what can I use cover the rounds to prevent crossfireing (Ithink thats what its called). Can I use something like crisco or petroleum jelly? The stuff the sold me at the gun shop is exspensive.
Also, can you recomend a nipple wrench? I have alread ruined one and only got one nipple out. Also (sorry) I can't seem to find out what size nipples my gun uses. Pietta 44 remington

thanks

Spanky

sierra308 · 05-11-2007, 04:45 AM

Crisco will work just fine.That's what I use in mine.Check your local black powder shop,or try Cain's Outdoors I believe they have a website.They should be able to tell you what size nipple and supply a good wrench.I used to put anti-sieze on the nipple threads to keep them from siezing up.

millwright · 05-11-2007, 06:34 PM

Spanky, Its called "chain firing" and you don't want that at all !!
Personally I use Crisco. It works; its cheap and it seems to keep the fouling soft.

You're apparently experiencing frozen nipples. Swab the beejesus out of the cylinder bores and fill about halfway with Kroil or another good rust buster and leave stand in a warm spot for a day or two.

You might try the local Sears for some 1/4" drive square nut sockets but be careful about size as they're easy to round off. I've had some success making a nipple wrench out of heavy wall roll pins. Slot with a Dremmel tool.

When you finally get them out be sure to wipe some never-seize compound on the threads - it only takes a little bit. >MW

AL MOUNT · 05-11-2007, 08:05 PM

Spanky,

Just in case you were'nt aware......

Black powder attracts rust like Democrats to a free meal......

You gotta to clean em as soon as you get back to your cabin.

I used to put my stainless Ruger in the dishwasher....worked fer me....

Spanky · 05-12-2007, 12:21 AM

Thanks for the help guys. I haven't been able to shoot this thing yet and I can hardly wait.

polishshooter · 05-12-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millwright

You're apparently experiencing frozen nipples. >MW

It's an old Eskimo problem too, but don't worry, AlGore and Global Warming will cure that...

Pistolenschutze · 05-13-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polishshooter

It's an old Eskimo problem too, but don't worry, AlGore and Global Warming will cure that...

And no doubt good ol' Al will do it through his invention, the Internet.

Oneida Steve · 05-14-2007, 10:14 AM

An over-the-powder wad like WonderWad is good, too. No grease involved and no danger of chainfire. Not cheap, though.

polishshooter · 05-15-2007, 09:55 PM

Actually, I lucked out at a gun auction years ago and in a box of miscellaneous crap I bought for a song there were 4 tubes of the CVA lubricant sealer specifically for cap n ball revolvers, and I still have a little more than two tubes left, so I use it exclusively, it's pretty convenient to squeeze it out of the nozzle into the chambers....

...even though it is WHITE and has about the consistancy of as well as the SMELL of Crisco....

Spanky · 05-17-2007, 09:06 PM

Well I let frozen nipples soak in Navel jelly over night and in the hot sun for several hours and then proceeded to ruin another wrench.

I am taking it down to the local gun shop tomorrow to see what they will charge to remove the nipples. I've already spent $35 on wrenches and jelly. Just throwing good money after bad if I keep trying myself. Could have bought a new cylinder by the time I'm through.

Well at least I got to say frozen nipples and navel jelly in the same sentence

armedandsafe · 05-18-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Well at least I got to say frozen nipples and navel jelly in the same sentence

Yeah, guys, I think this fellow is agunna fit in here jus' fine!

Pops

polishshooter · 05-19-2007, 03:03 PM

Actually, letting the cylinder soak was a good idea, but I think you might have had better luck with a lighter penetrating oil rather than the naval jelly...it would seem to me naval jelly is meant to remove EXTERNAL rust, you need to get it into the threads....

And while you have to be carefull, a little heat might work too...you MIGHT be able to get enough just in the oven for a while, if you don't have a propane torch....

millwright · 05-19-2007, 03:42 PM

Naval Jelly is a dandy rust buster - if you own a ship.......
What you need is a penetrating oil. They do their work by capillary action and chemistry. Kroil is the best I've used and is equally good for cleaning fouled barrels, but there's others that work, too. >MW

22WRF · 05-31-2007, 02:21 PM

I have a Pietta Remington and buggered up three nipple wrenches trying to free them up after they soaked in penetrating oil over night.

I finally took a Ruger New Army wrench and cut slots in it with a Dremel tool and they came right out.

Spanky · 06-04-2007, 10:01 PM

I finally got to shoot this thing and it was a lot of fun.

The only problem is this junk I am using to keep it from chain firing melts like butter. What a mess.

Next time I will use crisco and keep it on ice until I am ready to use it. Also it took some time to load the six shots so I built me one of them stands I've seen for sale to hold the gun while I load it. The other thing was that some of the shots seemed to fire with a lot more power than the others. Some of the caps didn't stay on the nipples as well as others, maybe that was the problem. Any suggestions? (I measured all the powder the same) Like I said though, it was a lot of fun and next time will be better.

Bye the way, just bought me a Nylon 66 22lr at a show, got to find somewhere on this forum to talk about it.

Spanky

polishshooter · 06-04-2007, 11:01 PM

Spanky, if you are SURE you are getting the same amount of powder in each chamber, (it's easy to "spill some" while loading, I do it quite often) and are seating the balls uniformly and tightly, you shouldn't notice different "power" between different chambers, HHhmmmm...

I can always tell when not all the chambers have the same charge, because the balls are not the exact same depth, not much, but not exactly the same, but even then I don't usually see or feel much difference.

How old is your powder and how was it stored?

As to the caps falling off the nipples, that IS aggravating, and when they come off they can bind the action pretty bad, worse than the fired ones that fall off...try squeezing the sides on them a little before you put them on, so they are a little oblong and not perfect circles, so they "grip" the nipple, that works most, but not all the time.

polishshooter · 06-06-2007, 11:03 AM

And as for "chain firing...."

Has ANYBODY ever experienced this or know somebody who has? You KNOW when the chips were down, and the old timers were reloading QUICKLY they didn't lube, plus can you IMAGINE the crud and junk and insects that would have accumulated on the gun and in the holsters IF they lubed it with whatever lube they had back then (bacon grease?) before they put it in there for a week or so (or MORE!) of "riding the range?" So HHhhmmmmm...

IF you are using the CORRECT sized balls, you get that little shaved ring when you ram it home on the cylinder, so that has to be a TIGHT fit, I don't see how a spark could get past it...maybe sombody at sometime had balls that were too small and that's how the stories got started?

Now with CONICALS I don't get that ring, so maybe that's it...

Don't get me wrong, I use lube/sealer all the time, even if just to keep the barrel lubed so maybe I don't get leading, BUT I wonder how much truth there is to the "chain firing" story....

22WRF · 06-06-2007, 07:20 PM

Never had a chain fire or saw one.
Don't mean I might not someday

I use the Ox Yoke wads over powder on my.36s and RIG on my .31 (I never can find Ox Yoke in stock for the .31)

You can also get a chain fire from a open nipple that the cap has fallen off of.

I have also gone to #10 caps for a better fit on the nipple

millwright · 07-04-2007, 11:08 PM

Oh, I've had.....one.....it was enough...... !!! Two adjacent cylinders fired on a 1858 Remmington repro. Nothing hurt but pride, thankfully....

I suspect a loose ball and a forgotten overpowder wad as the reason......the culprit was, of course, sloppy loading procedures..... >MW

polishshooter · 07-05-2007, 03:39 PM

Wow, Mill, that is the first I've EVER heard of one...what did the ball hit on the way out of the other chamber? Did it shear off or something on the frame? And what size "group" did it fire for those two?

And were you using .452 balls maybe? I thought I read Remingtons took .454 but I could be mistaken, the last one I shot was a cousins when I was much younger and didn't pay too much attention at the time, since I thought while it was cool, WHY would anybody want to own one of THOSE when a MODERN cartridge one would be so much better?

And of course, NOW I KNOW better....

My Traditions 1860 Army takes .452 balls and conicals, which is neat because I also occasionally fire my .452 200gr SWCs for my .45 through it too....

I know with the 5 shot .58 cal Root Rifles used in the Civil War soldiers were trained to drop the loading lever and use it as a foregrip before firing to keep their forward hand and arm out of the "line of fire" in case of a chain fire...but I always thought it was more to keep the blow by gases and particles from stinging, now I'm not so sure....

MikeH1 · 07-14-2007, 07:27 PM

A friend of mine used to do Civil War Reenactments, he told me about one "Reb" had the tip of a finger blown off due to chain-firing with only powder and a wad, no ball (he had his finger over the muzzle; not real bright)

mrkirker · 07-26-2007, 06:27 AM

Spanky,
>I've shot .44 pietta remington (1858 copy) for several years now in N-SSA competition, so if there is a mistake to be made, I've probably made it! >Pietta chamber size will vary, so the suggestion regarding 'shaving off' when correctly inserted is correct:far better too snug than too loose. One of mine works well with .457, the other two work well with a .452. Don't be surprised if all the chamber sizes on your cylindar are not exactly the same. Make sure that the balls seat firmly, otherwise they will shift forward as the pistol is fired and lock up your cylindar, a real 'b*%#h' during timed events! Even if you don't go for a full 'tune', get your smith to do a forcing cone job. It takes about three minutes and will make a real diff in your round placement.
>We generally use 28 gr. FFF under a few grains of cream of wheat (as filler), topped with either a homemade product or one of the commercial lubes. However, these are target rounds, for 25 and 50 yard competitions. >Contrary to popular belief, the 'gunk' spread on after loading is not to prevent chain fires (proper loading and ball sizing does this!). The 'gunk/lube' keeps the fouling soft, making cleaning these a GREAT deal easier. Without lube you have a hard, crusty black char to dig out; with lube, you have a soft, greasy, black sludge that is easy to run out with a bore snake!
>One of the best products to avoid the 'frozen nipple' scenario is Gorilla Grease. Just a tiny bit on each thread area will prevent seizures. A little tin of this stuff will last a long time, but watch out, for some reason, dogs love to eat it. If you store your '58 for long periods of time, you might want to leave the nipples out of the cylinder till you head to the range. And afterwards, CLEAN and oil your investment promptly. The residue really attracts moisture.
>A good source for black powder information (and product leads) is the North-South Skirmish Assoc. (N-SSA). Their web-site has a good listing of sutlers, and their threads specialize in black powder situations.
>Hey, sorry this ran on so long, but you know how it is when one of your fav subjects comes up!

Spanky · 08-03-2007, 04:11 PM

Well fellas, I am depresed. I made the mistake of leaving the backdoor unlocked one day and three guns are gone.

My Pietta 44 (I only had about 2 months), a S&W mdl 422 (22 semi auto pistol I bought in 84 or about) and my Marlin 336 (30-30 I'v had since 1973, the first gun I ever bought).

I'm gonna miss em all. Saving my money for a safe now. I'v been looking in on this thread every now and then and am glad to see it sill alive. I'll be back in the black powder game soon. No need to feel sorry, just liven an learnin.

armedandsafe · 08-03-2007, 07:26 PM

That SUCKS! I really and truely hate thieves.

Pops

millwright · 08-04-2007, 07:33 PM

PS,
That event happened a couple of years' back. For all I know that particular ball might have been a tad small, but the fault was mine.....in not putting a wad in and/or sealing the chamber.

Since it was only one cylinder and that adjacent to the one in battery, the ball sheared along the frame going off at an angle making some noise due to being mishapen.

Me, I took a couple of deep breaths and then examined the gun - and pulled the remaining balls......all had wads under them. >MW

05-11-2007, 04:45 AM	#2
sierra308 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Crisco will work just fine.That's what I use in mine.Check your local black powder shop,or try Cain's Outdoors I believe they have a website.They should be able to tell you what size nipple and supply a good wrench.I used to put anti-sieze on the nipple threads to keep them from siezing up.

05-11-2007, 06:34 PM	#3
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,436	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Spanky, Its called "chain firing" and you don't want that at all !! Personally I use Crisco. It works; its cheap and it seems to keep the fouling soft. You're apparently experiencing frozen nipples. Swab the beejesus out of the cylinder bores and fill about halfway with Kroil or another good rust buster and leave stand in a warm spot for a day or two. You might try the local Sears for some 1/4" drive square nut sockets but be careful about size as they're easy to round off. I've had some success making a nipple wrench out of heavy wall roll pins. Slot with a Dremmel tool. When you finally get them out be sure to wipe some never-seize compound on the threads - it only takes a little bit. >MW

05-11-2007, 08:05 PM	#4
AL MOUNT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark Mountains Posts: 3,107	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Spanky, Just in case you were'nt aware...... Black powder attracts rust like Democrats to a free meal...... You gotta to clean em as soon as you get back to your cabin. I used to put my stainless Ruger in the dishwasher....worked fer me.... __________________ 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment 101st Airborne Division Vietnam 67-68

05-12-2007, 12:21 AM	#5
Spanky Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: The land of Sunshine, the best Citrus and the Most Beautiful Women in the World. Posts: 25	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Thanks for the help guys. I haven't been able to shoot this thing yet and I can hardly wait.

05-14-2007, 10:14 AM	#8
Oneida Steve Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,028	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions An over-the-powder wad like WonderWad is good, too. No grease involved and no danger of chainfire. Not cheap, though.

05-09-2007, 09:47 PM	#1
Spanky Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: The land of Sunshine, the best Citrus and the Most Beautiful Women in the World. Posts: 25	New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions After loading the ball into the revolver what can I use cover the rounds to prevent crossfireing (Ithink thats what its called). Can I use something like crisco or petroleum jelly? The stuff the sold me at the gun shop is exspensive. Also, can you recomend a nipple wrench? I have alread ruined one and only got one nipple out. Also (sorry) I can't seem to find out what size nipples my gun uses. Pietta 44 remington thanks Spanky -->

05-15-2007, 09:55 PM	#9
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Actually, I lucked out at a gun auction years ago and in a box of miscellaneous crap I bought for a song there were 4 tubes of the CVA lubricant sealer specifically for cap n ball revolvers, and I still have a little more than two tubes left, so I use it exclusively, it's pretty convenient to squeeze it out of the nozzle into the chambers.... ...even though it is WHITE and has about the consistancy of as well as the SMELL of Crisco.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

05-17-2007, 09:06 PM	#10
Spanky Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: The land of Sunshine, the best Citrus and the Most Beautiful Women in the World. Posts: 25	Re: frozen nipples Well I let frozen nipples soak in Navel jelly over night and in the hot sun for several hours and then proceeded to ruin another wrench. I am taking it down to the local gun shop tomorrow to see what they will charge to remove the nipples. I've already spent $35 on wrenches and jelly. Just throwing good money after bad if I keep trying myself. Could have bought a new cylinder by the time I'm through. Well at least I got to say frozen nipples and navel jelly in the same sentence

05-19-2007, 03:03 PM	#12
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Actually, letting the cylinder soak was a good idea, but I think you might have had better luck with a lighter penetrating oil rather than the naval jelly...it would seem to me naval jelly is meant to remove EXTERNAL rust, you need to get it into the threads.... And while you have to be carefull, a little heat might work too...you MIGHT be able to get enough just in the oven for a while, if you don't have a propane torch.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

05-19-2007, 03:42 PM	#13
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,436	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Naval Jelly is a dandy rust buster - if you own a ship....... What you need is a penetrating oil. They do their work by capillary action and chemistry. Kroil is the best I've used and is equally good for cleaning fouled barrels, but there's others that work, too. >MW

05-31-2007, 02:21 PM	#14
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions I have a Pietta Remington and buggered up three nipple wrenches trying to free them up after they soaked in penetrating oil over night. I finally took a Ruger New Army wrench and cut slots in it with a Dremel tool and they came right out. __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel

06-04-2007, 10:01 PM	#15
Spanky Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: The land of Sunshine, the best Citrus and the Most Beautiful Women in the World. Posts: 25	Took her to the range I finally got to shoot this thing and it was a lot of fun. The only problem is this junk I am using to keep it from chain firing melts like butter. What a mess. Next time I will use crisco and keep it on ice until I am ready to use it. Also it took some time to load the six shots so I built me one of them stands I've seen for sale to hold the gun while I load it. The other thing was that some of the shots seemed to fire with a lot more power than the others. Some of the caps didn't stay on the nipples as well as others, maybe that was the problem. Any suggestions? (I measured all the powder the same) Like I said though, it was a lot of fun and next time will be better. Bye the way, just bought me a Nylon 66 22lr at a show, got to find somewhere on this forum to talk about it. Spanky __________________ "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then" - Bob Seger Well I'm not a Gynegologist, but I'll take a look.

06-04-2007, 11:01 PM	#16
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Spanky, if you are SURE you are getting the same amount of powder in each chamber, (it's easy to "spill some" while loading, I do it quite often) and are seating the balls uniformly and tightly, you shouldn't notice different "power" between different chambers, HHhmmmm... I can always tell when not all the chambers have the same charge, because the balls are not the exact same depth, not much, but not exactly the same, but even then I don't usually see or feel much difference. How old is your powder and how was it stored? As to the caps falling off the nipples, that IS aggravating, and when they come off they can bind the action pretty bad, worse than the fired ones that fall off...try squeezing the sides on them a little before you put them on, so they are a little oblong and not perfect circles, so they "grip" the nipple, that works most, but not all the time. __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

06-06-2007, 11:03 AM	#17
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions And as for "chain firing...." Has ANYBODY ever experienced this or know somebody who has? You KNOW when the chips were down, and the old timers were reloading QUICKLY they didn't lube, plus can you IMAGINE the crud and junk and insects that would have accumulated on the gun and in the holsters IF they lubed it with whatever lube they had back then (bacon grease?) before they put it in there for a week or so (or MORE!) of "riding the range?" So HHhhmmmmm... IF you are using the CORRECT sized balls, you get that little shaved ring when you ram it home on the cylinder, so that has to be a TIGHT fit, I don't see how a spark could get past it...maybe sombody at sometime had balls that were too small and that's how the stories got started? Now with CONICALS I don't get that ring, so maybe that's it... Don't get me wrong, I use lube/sealer all the time, even if just to keep the barrel lubed so maybe I don't get leading, BUT I wonder how much truth there is to the "chain firing" story.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Last edited by polishshooter; 06-06-2007 at 11:06 AM..

06-06-2007, 07:20 PM	#18
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Never had a chain fire or saw one. Don't mean I might not someday I use the Ox Yoke wads over powder on my.36s and RIG on my .31 (I never can find Ox Yoke in stock for the .31) You can also get a chain fire from a open nipple that the cap has fallen off of. I have also gone to #10 caps for a better fit on the nipple __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel Last edited by 22WRF; 06-06-2007 at 07:21 PM..

07-04-2007, 11:08 PM	#19
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,436	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Oh, I've had.....one.....it was enough...... !!! Two adjacent cylinders fired on a 1858 Remmington repro. Nothing hurt but pride, thankfully.... I suspect a loose ball and a forgotten overpowder wad as the reason......the culprit was, of course, sloppy loading procedures..... >MW

07-05-2007, 03:39 PM	#20
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Wow, Mill, that is the first I've EVER heard of one...what did the ball hit on the way out of the other chamber? Did it shear off or something on the frame? And what size "group" did it fire for those two? And were you using .452 balls maybe? I thought I read Remingtons took .454 but I could be mistaken, the last one I shot was a cousins when I was much younger and didn't pay too much attention at the time, since I thought while it was cool, WHY would anybody want to own one of THOSE when a MODERN cartridge one would be so much better? And of course, NOW I KNOW better.... My Traditions 1860 Army takes .452 balls and conicals, which is neat because I also occasionally fire my .452 200gr SWCs for my .45 through it too.... I know with the 5 shot .58 cal Root Rifles used in the Civil War soldiers were trained to drop the loading lever and use it as a foregrip before firing to keep their forward hand and arm out of the "line of fire" in case of a chain fire...but I always thought it was more to keep the blow by gases and particles from stinging, now I'm not so sure.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

07-14-2007, 07:27 PM	#21
MikeH1 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Van Nuys CA USA Posts: 9	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions A friend of mine used to do Civil War Reenactments, he told me about one "Reb" had the tip of a finger blown off due to chain-firing with only powder and a wad, no ball (he had his finger over the muzzle; not real bright)

07-26-2007, 06:27 AM	#22
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Spanky, >I've shot .44 pietta remington (1858 copy) for several years now in N-SSA competition, so if there is a mistake to be made, I've probably made it! >Pietta chamber size will vary, so the suggestion regarding 'shaving off' when correctly inserted is correct:far better too snug than too loose. One of mine works well with .457, the other two work well with a .452. Don't be surprised if all the chamber sizes on your cylindar are not exactly the same. Make sure that the balls seat firmly, otherwise they will shift forward as the pistol is fired and lock up your cylindar, a real 'b*%#h' during timed events! Even if you don't go for a full 'tune', get your smith to do a forcing cone job. It takes about three minutes and will make a real diff in your round placement. >We generally use 28 gr. FFF under a few grains of cream of wheat (as filler), topped with either a homemade product or one of the commercial lubes. However, these are target rounds, for 25 and 50 yard competitions. >Contrary to popular belief, the 'gunk' spread on after loading is not to prevent chain fires (proper loading and ball sizing does this!). The 'gunk/lube' keeps the fouling soft, making cleaning these a GREAT deal easier. Without lube you have a hard, crusty black char to dig out; with lube, you have a soft, greasy, black sludge that is easy to run out with a bore snake! >One of the best products to avoid the 'frozen nipple' scenario is Gorilla Grease. Just a tiny bit on each thread area will prevent seizures. A little tin of this stuff will last a long time, but watch out, for some reason, dogs love to eat it. If you store your '58 for long periods of time, you might want to leave the nipples out of the cylinder till you head to the range. And afterwards, CLEAN and oil your investment promptly. The residue really attracts moisture. >A good source for black powder information (and product leads) is the North-South Skirmish Assoc. (N-SSA). Their web-site has a good listing of sutlers, and their threads specialize in black powder situations. >Hey, sorry this ran on so long, but you know how it is when one of your fav subjects comes up!

08-03-2007, 04:11 PM	#23
Spanky Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: The land of Sunshine, the best Citrus and the Most Beautiful Women in the World. Posts: 25	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions Well fellas, I am depresed. I made the mistake of leaving the backdoor unlocked one day and three guns are gone. My Pietta 44 (I only had about 2 months), a S&W mdl 422 (22 semi auto pistol I bought in 84 or about) and my Marlin 336 (30-30 I'v had since 1973, the first gun I ever bought). I'm gonna miss em all. Saving my money for a safe now. I'v been looking in on this thread every now and then and am glad to see it sill alive. I'll be back in the black powder game soon. No need to feel sorry, just liven an learnin. __________________ "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then" - Bob Seger Well I'm not a Gynegologist, but I'll take a look.

08-03-2007, 07:26 PM	#24
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions That SUCKS! I really and truely hate thieves. Pops

08-04-2007, 07:33 PM	#25
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,436	Re: New owner of black powder pistol, couple of questions PS, That event happened a couple of years' back. For all I know that particular ball might have been a tad small, but the fault was mine.....in not putting a wad in and/or sealing the chamber. Since it was only one cylinder and that adjacent to the one in battery, the ball sheared along the frame going off at an angle making some noise due to being mishapen. Me, I took a couple of deep breaths and then examined the gun - and pulled the remaining balls......all had wads under them. >MW