Not Concealed carry. - The Firearms Forum

Judah · 05-22-2008, 12:48 AM

Sorry if this same question appears a thousand times elsewhere. Its probably a common stupid question.

Years ago I had a PA permit to carry.

I got conflicting information, at the time, as to whether a permit was needed to carry in full view. In other words, not-concealed.

I was (AM) under the impression that "concealed" pretty much meant "to carry", for all intents and purposes.

One evening I saw a nut-job standing in front of the local mall with a huge semi-auto hanging from his hip in full view.

When an anxious merchant notified a police officer in the parking lot he said there was nothing he could do about it. The guy wasn't breaking any laws.

Could he have meant that he was withing his right to proclaim the weapon?

Danka

Chuck B · 05-22-2008, 11:48 PM

Do you live in Pennsylvania?

Even a concealed carry permit doesn't allow you to "carry" while bow hunting in Arkansas.

Here are two sites that might help answer your question: http://www.handgunlaw.us/; http://opencarry.org/

The opencarry site includes a forum link.

regards,

chuck

Vladimir · 05-22-2008, 11:56 PM

It depends on the state. Washington (where I am) is an open-carry state, meaning no permit is needed for open-carry. A concealed permit gets you all sorts of special benefits, including the right to carry concealed. In addition it allows you to do things like transport the firearm in the cab of your car (versus the trunk) and it allows you to waive the 5-day waiting period for handgun purchases.

TranterUK · 05-24-2008, 04:21 PM

I love this one.

When in Arizona many years ago I asked a friend to hold my 1911 and two mags while I went to the bank to get some cash.

She, a visiting Police Officer from California, explained I could keep it with me, as long as it was NOT hidden. So off to the bank I went, openly wearing my gun and mags. I even had her take a photo as I left the bank!

People here still dont believe that story, till they see the photo.

JohnK3 · 05-24-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TranterUK

I love this one.

When in Arizona many years ago I asked a friend to hold my 1911 and two mags while I went to the bank to get some cash.

She, a visiting Police Officer from California, explained I could keep it with me, as long as it was NOT hidden. So off to the bank I went, openly wearing my gun and mags. I even had her take a photo as I left the bank!

People here still dont believe that story, till they see the photo.

So, let's see the photo!!!

ponycar17 · 05-24-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnK3

So, let's see the photo!!!

My CWP instructor mentioned that AZ is one of the only states still allowing open carry with no permit whatsoever... I like it!

TranterUK · 05-24-2008, 10:31 PM

Photo on its way, I just need to figure how to get it onto the computer, its the old type, on paper. Where's my 13 yr old when I need him?

(Oh yes, it's 04.50, hes doing what I used to do, sleep)

Vladimir · 05-25-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ponycar17

My CWP instructor mentioned that AZ is one of the only states still allowing open carry with no permit whatsoever... I like it!

Actually the number of states permitting open carry is quite large. Now what he may have been referring to (or at least makes a difference) is Arizona has a more open stance to it. Obviously certain areas are going to be more open to open-carry than others. I know on this side of the state (west-side of Washington) I feel much more "scandalous" and like I have to be extra careful, carrying concealed... when compared to back home in Eastern Washington where I would feel comfortable open-carry probably.

UncleFudd · 05-25-2008, 10:17 AM

It is not illegal to carry into any bank in AZ open or concealed unless the bank has posted "no firearms" etc.

I wonder why so many people believe that it is.

As for carrying open, it is my personal as well as professional belief that only a fool wanting to be first on the list of a determined bad guy would do so.

But then God needs to add a little clorox to the gene pool every once in a while. But before you do, could I have your guns?

UF

Judah · 05-25-2008, 11:11 PM

Great answers. So, technically I could save $45.00 for a new permit in PA. by carrying openly as long as I stay out of Philadelphia (no problem) and don't drive. (Problem)

I'll just pay the $45.00.

Thanks all!

05-22-2008, 12:48 AM	#1
Judah Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6	Not Concealed carry. Sorry if this same question appears a thousand times elsewhere. Its probably a common stupid question. Years ago I had a PA permit to carry. I got conflicting information, at the time, as to whether a permit was needed to carry in full view. In other words, not-concealed. I was (AM) under the impression that "concealed" pretty much meant "to carry", for all intents and purposes. One evening I saw a nut-job standing in front of the local mall with a huge semi-auto hanging from his hip in full view. When an anxious merchant notified a police officer in the parking lot he said there was nothing he could do about it. The guy wasn't breaking any laws. Could he have meant that he was withing his right to proclaim the weapon? Danka -->

05-22-2008, 11:48 PM	#2
Chuck B V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 67	Re: Not Concealed carry. Do you live in Pennsylvania? Even a concealed carry permit doesn't allow you to "carry" while bow hunting in Arkansas. Here are two sites that might help answer your question: http://www.handgunlaw.us/; http://opencarry.org/ The opencarry site includes a forum link. regards, chuck Last edited by Chuck B; 05-22-2008 at 11:59 PM..

05-22-2008, 11:56 PM	#3
Vladimir Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Issaquah WA Posts: 3,558	Re: Not Concealed carry. It depends on the state. Washington (where I am) is an open-carry state, meaning no permit is needed for open-carry. A concealed permit gets you all sorts of special benefits, including the right to carry concealed. In addition it allows you to do things like transport the firearm in the cab of your car (versus the trunk) and it allows you to waive the 5-day waiting period for handgun purchases. __________________ -JVRR меня зовут Владимир или Джеймс. Я знаю только немного русский язык (я американец, но мой пра дедушка русски). STEAM (CSS, TF2, etc): Ask me! Xbox LIVE! GT: "Vlad is Rad" PS3 PSN: "Vlad_Is_Rad"

05-24-2008, 04:21 PM	#4
TranterUK Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 5,103	Re: Not Concealed carry. I love this one. When in Arizona many years ago I asked a friend to hold my 1911 and two mags while I went to the bank to get some cash. She, a visiting Police Officer from California, explained I could keep it with me, as long as it was NOT hidden. So off to the bank I went, openly wearing my gun and mags. I even had her take a photo as I left the bank! People here still dont believe that story, till they see the photo. __________________ DVC - Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas - Accuracy, Power, Speed. The light at the end of the recession tunnel IS a train coming the other way! Last edited by TranterUK; 05-24-2008 at 04:24 PM.. Reason: spellinks

05-24-2008, 10:31 PM	#7
TranterUK Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 5,103	Re: Not Concealed carry. Photo on its way, I just need to figure how to get it onto the computer, its the old type, on paper. Where's my 13 yr old when I need him? (Oh yes, it's 04.50, hes doing what I used to do, sleep) __________________ DVC - Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas - Accuracy, Power, Speed. The light at the end of the recession tunnel IS a train coming the other way! Last edited by TranterUK; 05-24-2008 at 10:50 PM..

05-25-2008, 10:17 AM	#9
UncleFudd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, Az Contributor Posts: 549	Re: Not Concealed carry. It is not illegal to carry into any bank in AZ open or concealed unless the bank has posted "no firearms" etc. I wonder why so many people believe that it is. As for carrying open, it is my personal as well as professional belief that only a fool wanting to be first on the list of a determined bad guy would do so. But then God needs to add a little clorox to the gene pool every once in a while. But before you do, could I have your guns? UF

05-25-2008, 11:11 PM	#10
Judah Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6	Re: Not Concealed carry. Great answers. So, technically I could save $45.00 for a new permit in PA. by carrying openly as long as I stay out of Philadelphia (no problem) and don't drive. (Problem) I'll just pay the $45.00. Thanks all!