who uses stripper clips?

[R Gor]

ok. thanks for the info. id rather take some practice then spend money on something that won't even always work.

[Dutchman]

I've always used stripper clips when I had a mauser around. I have a mauser on the way from a gunsmith and I plan on using them again. I find them very convenient. What surprises me is others use them as well.

[jeanp1948]

Originally Posted by polishshooter

Don't worry, jean, I don't get offended very easily, ask PS...now I have been accused of offendING before, but trust me, I don't intend it if I ever do...I just get passionate about some things....

Wow, you really DO have a lemon, I have NEVER even HEARD of some of those problems, much less experienced them with any I've owned, and I've owned some RATTY ones...

It's funny how one experience can "taint" our opinion of 12 million weapons!

As to the "creepy" trigger, it's funny how such a simple trigger with so few parts can be affected by so much.

First, check for burrs, especially on the base of the bolt lug, on the lug of the bolt stop, but mainly around the base of the groove of the guide rod on the bolt guide. Don't ask me WHY it affects it so much, but just a few teeny burrs arond the concave end at the base of the guide rod can really affect it...I have smoothed up a lot of triggers by first touching up and removing any burthere with a little rat tail file, then polishing the guide rod with some steel wool.

Then just polish, (don't remove ANY metal EXCEPT if you feel a burr with your fingernail...) the lug on the bolt, and the lug on the bolt stop, make sure they slide away nicely...THAT is where you fell the "break", if the bearing angle" is worn, it might drag a little there.

The only other thing is I've found a LOT of variance between sears/bolt stops between Mosins...I have quite a few, and I one got frustrated with an M44, that was beautiful, but the trigger was atrocious. I tried everything, and no go.

I happen to have 4 91/30s, that I keep on display just to show the progression and differences, from a 1920 hex transition, to a 1931 hex Tula to a prewar 1942 Izhevsk, and a wartime 1943 Izhevsk...

Anyway, the '31 Tula had a SWEET trigger, well worn, smooth, light, broke like glass. Now I don't shoot the 91/30s much, preferring the carbines, so I got a bug up my butt, and switched out EVERYTHING between the two rifles, bolt, sear stop AND trigger, along with the sear screw, and trigger pin......and was VERY surprised...

The Tula STILL had a decent trigger, with all the M44 parts! Just perceptively different, maybe a LITTLE stiffer, but still smooth and crisp...and the M44 got noticeably better, but not anywhere NEAR as good as the same components on the Tula! Then I got creative, switching out components one at a time, and eventually game up with a trigger for the Tula ALMOST as good as it was, and for the M44 a LOT better than it was...

I can't explain that either...


See if you can try the other bolt in your gun with his sear/bolt stop and trigger too, while you are at it....


Finally, you can lighten the pull easily by shimming under the sear...take a beer can, and open it up and lay the sheet of aluminum out on a board (You gotta love any modifications that start with "take a beer can" right?)

Drill a bunch of holes through the can, about 1/2 inch apart or so, maybe a little more, large enough so the bolt stop screw will fit the hole..

Then with snips, cut out a square of the aluminum around each hole, about 1/2 inch square, The MOST I have ever used was 4 shims, you usually only use one or two...

Then take install one shim UNDER the sear spring/bolt stop, and reinstall everything, and try it..it should be noticeably lighter.

You keep going one shim at a time, until the bolt stop engagement doesn't work any mor and the rifle doesn't stay cocked...and then remove one shim and you should be fine. If you are a little scared of the engagement, or you think the trigger is a little TOO light, remove another shim.

MY guess especially since you switched out bolts is you have a burr on either the trigger, or the bolt stop face. Or else your other bolt has a burr in the SAME place as yours (not uncommon!) and due to other relationships, it doesn't effect his but it does yours.

One other thing, check the hole/slot in the bottom of the receiver race above the trigger that the bolt stop lug passes through...it might have a burr, that's causing the lug to drag...I almost forgot, I had that happen ONE time.....the lug should not be touching any part of that slot.

UPDATE: Just bought another M44 for $89.00 in new condition. Bolt etc works great. I no longer have the stripper clips so that's a wash. I also took your suggestion took my older model M44 apart and found by adding a shim between the stock and the front magazine attachment screw made the bolt work 90% better. I like the fact I now have an original M44 and a M44 scout gun with no front sights, no bayonet lug, re-machined and re-blued straight barrel from front scope to muzzle, has composite stock also.
Did it all myself, relying on my old machinist experiance and lots of patience.

[SCHARFSHUTZEN]

C96

[AngelDeville]

[Haligan]

I've tried aftermarket magazines for my sks's but they don't seam to be that reliable, so I use stripper clips. Wish I could figure out the magzine problem. Anyone run into that.

[stash247]

Haligan, the SKS was never designed as a detatchable mag weapon, aftermarket mags are thus, just that, a 'non standard' accessory.
As it was built, and unmolested, the rifle is as reliable as the sunrise; do you wish to improve on that?
Use the strippers, and have a reliable rifle.

[deth502]

i love stripper clips, but they dont work for me in everything.

great in the ar, fal, g3, sks.

ok in the mosin and mini 14

lousy in the ak.

[polishshooter]

Originally Posted by jeanp1948

UPDATE: Just bought another M44 for $89.00 in new condition. Bolt etc works great. I no longer have the stripper clips so that's a wash. I also took your suggestion took my older model M44 apart and found by adding a shim between the stock and the front magazine attachment screw made the bolt work 90% better. I like the fact I now have an original M44 and a M44 scout gun with no front sights, no bayonet lug, re-machined and re-blued straight barrel from front scope to muzzle, has composite stock also.
Did it all myself, relying on my old machinist experiance and lots of patience.

What you also did , Jean, is free float the barrel, at least partially, the poor man's way.

If you use an ATI synthetic stock, this becomes an issue because all three of them I have owned so far were warped badly. The first one I kept rasping out the forearm to relieve pressure on one side, and it kept pressing on that side and the gap on the OTHER side kept getting wider!

By putting a shim or two under the recoil lug it raises the barrel a little bit out of the channel and I saw a nice reduction in group size.

But I don't like it that way, so I plan to glass bed the recoil lug next, mainly to seal in the shims and give it a bed to recoil against. It can be a pain to do synthetics I heard though, having to drill holes at odd angles to "lock" the bedding in, but the stock doesn't have the steel reinforcement behind the lug like a stock stock () does, so the bedding might work well.

I didn't know it might help stripper use though, since I did it only on my "conventional" overbore scope conversion, so I gave up strippers, and my first "Scout" based on a Russian post war receiver took strippers well as is...

My next Scout is based on a wartime highwall M44 in modified Hungarian wood stock, and I'm not done with it yet, so I don't know yet how it takes strippers, but the wartime ones I've had seems to like them better than the post-war ones.....

[AngelDeville]

[anfoman76]

Nice collection of old Iron Angel. I'm happy to say the newest addition to my rifle family arrived today ....A Husquvarna Sporty m96 in 6.5 x 55 I can't wait to finish it properley

[RMT]

I use them with my AR15's.

[happyhunter42]

Use them for the sks and my m-91/30. I've got 25 for the sks but only 3 for the mosin.

[RONSERESURPLUS]

Hello all

Ron L here = SERESURPLUS


I've been reading the responces to this post and thought I'd add my .02! Yes, I like and use stripper clips! While I have used them on Most Bolt action designs such as th the Mauser, I find them a great way to keep and store ammunition for my semi-auto designs like the ar and ak and sks! I like how handly that load, how easliy they store in pouches or in amo can and they are always a value and I never find enough of them! I know many don't use them, but I see that as thier loss? This a cheap, easly found, works great item, why would one NOT USE THE< Thats the better question?

[TranterUK]

Originally Posted by polishshooter

I just picked up a couple of Enfield .303 strippers, and a couple of .308 five round NATO strippers to try with the 2A Enfield and the No4, and I was pleasantly surprised....BOTH loaded into the appropriate Enfield mags smoothly, almost like butter....maybe now I can appreciate more the "detachable, but not meant to be detached" British thinking when it comes to mags....

Yes Polish the stripper clips for No.4s work really well, quick and easy.

If it helps I was taught how to use them as a young cadet in 19 something, and where some go wrong is not looping the four fingers under the gun. With the thumb on top. try it.

[USMC-03]

So...

The other evening I was going through some of my shooting gear and realized that I didn't have as many stripper clips for my M1903's as I'd like. Of course my next stop is Google to see how many on-line purveyors of firearms related paraphernalia carry stripper clips and how much they might be. I found that clips for 5.56 and 7.62x39 are quite common but not nearly so for 7.62N/.30 Cal.

I was becoming a bit discouraged and then a ray of hope... A web site that specializes in selling stripper clips. Fantastic! They should have exactly what I need. Then I saw the disclaimer about adult content and stopped dead in my tracks before I double-clicked on the link.

Hope quickly and decisively squashed...

[Humpy]

I've used them for 35 years in high power competition and for plinking prior to that. Just picked up about 30 more. I am still working on the first five commerical stainless ones I bought at Perry in 73. Good ones done wear out.