And now Obama and Biden have their reason.

GMFWoodchuck · 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM

That jackass who went around shooting at everybody in Alabama yesterday with a semi-auto.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/south_alabama_shootings

GMFWoodchuck · 03-10-2009, 11:26 PM

And now Obama and Biden have their reason.

My error.

armedandsafe · 03-11-2009, 12:01 AM

Cleveland had a shooting, also. Five down at the latest word I noticed.

Pops

artabr · 03-11-2009, 12:21 AM

Obama & Biden are part of the cause. I just heard that the shooter was one of 130 something people that were laid off. This was from a guy that just called in to a talkshow from one of the two towns where the shootings took place.

Art

Big ugly · 03-11-2009, 02:35 AM

Look people here we are, we have got to protect ourselveshere. We got Lay offs goin on all over the place and its gonna get tragic real fast. We all know some one who is gettin laid off or gonna get laid off so here it is, we got to keep an eye on our fellow man and keep him from doin harm. times are gettin desprate. I'm laid off and I know how it feels, trust me it aint gettin no better/

45nut · 03-11-2009, 07:52 AM

Cleveland info here

This guy killed his wife, sister-in-law, her 4 year old and 2 year old twins. Then killed himself when the SWAT team stormed the house. I think the crowd had the appropriate response.

"Several dozen people lined up behind yellow police tape across the street from the home and cheered as a sheet-covered stretcher was removed from the house about an hour later."

I have never understood why cowards feel the need to kill their family in these situations. I understand being depressed, but this always baffles me.

bluesea112 · 03-11-2009, 08:03 AM

You know the "libs" are blaming the guns, not the lay offs/politicians. It would actually take "reasoning skills" to understand the root of the problem.

Teejay9 · 03-11-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45nut

Cleveland info here

This guy killed his wife, sister-in-law, her 4 year old and 2 year old twins. Then killed himself when the SWAT team stormed the house. I think the crowd had the appropriate response.

"Several dozen people lined up behind yellow police tape across the street from the home and cheered as a sheet-covered stretcher was removed from the house about an hour later."

I have never understood why cowards feel the need to kill their family in these situations. I understand being depressed, but this always baffles me.

How can someone look a precious child in the face, innocent of all things, and kill them? What kind of maniac has no conscience that they could destroy a small child? Surely these people are in Hell. Just too terrible to contemplate. TJ

GMFWoodchuck · 03-11-2009, 05:12 PM

Politicians and layoffs have nothing to do with this. The man was a nutjob. None of us (I hope anyway) would ever consider doing this to our own family no matter how dismal the situation is. It is a shame that he wasn't "found" before hand and put into a nuthouse.

hkruss · 03-13-2009, 08:15 PM

Maybe, just maybe, if one of those victims had been armed this idiot could have been taken out before the body count increased. I see it as one more reason for people to carry and be proficient with firearms.

May God help the poor families of those left behind.

obxned · 03-14-2009, 10:14 PM

I guess a person who ignores the law against murder would be stopped in his tracks by a gun control law. On what planet?

dge479 · 03-15-2009, 05:15 PM

With or with out the gun, these people could go out and kill. The gun was his weapon of choice. He could have rented a van and made a fertilizer bomb. Oh wait, thats been done.

GMFWoodchuck · 03-17-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dge479

With or with out the gun, these people could go out and kill. The gun was his weapon of choice. He could have rented a van and made a fertilizer bomb. Oh wait, thats been done.

And now because of that moron if a farmer wants a large quantity of fertilizer he gets questioned and looked at weird for doing the same thing he's been doing for 50 years.

islenos · 03-17-2009, 08:44 AM

Millions of people have been violently killed prior to the invention of the firearm. They act as if, by banning firearms, no one will be murdered.

millwright · 03-17-2009, 05:56 PM

Hmmmm...Fifty Million have been killed post that invention, as well. Most in the 20th Century.

Part of this "problem" is "internet overload". Thanks to speedy communications of the most trivial of incidents, they take on an immediacy all out of proportion to their real impact on society. And those with an "agenda" are quick to seize upon this "immediacy" - IOW, "If it bleeds it leads" - is what rules the day.

Yes I feel sorry for those family members targeted, just as I feel sorry for the well-like guy that tried, (fatally), to use his pickup truck to prevent further carnage. But I also have to ask, "what would have been the result if some of these folks were armed ? ". The perp wouldn't have had a "shooting gallery". That his was a "suicide mission" is evident. And we"re seeing more reports of this sort of thing of late. Why ? I suspect an "anti-gun agenda".

I can't think of any way to prevent this sort of thing, anymore than a lot of professionals at federal, state and local levels, can. By all reports this guy could have joined the FBI, he was so "clean"......So how can any gun-restrictive law prevent these sorts of tragedies ? Only way I can deduce is to remove each and every firearm from private possession. But, then, what's to stop someone from "rolling his own" ? Making effecive firearms is relatively easy. Full autos are by far easier than selective fire. And limitations on bolt guns, ( easier by far), are limited only by the recoil the shooter is willing to absorb......... All it take is some basic machine tooling......Or are we going to investigate/prosecute the tens of thosands of machinests extant in America ? >MW

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GMFWoodchuck Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,369	And now Obama and Biden have their reason. That jackass who went around shooting at everybody in Alabama yesterday with a semi-auto. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/south_alabama_shootings --> Last edited by GMFWoodchuck; 03-10-2009 at 11:27 PM..

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GMFWoodchuck Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,369	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. And now Obama and Biden have their reason. My error.

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artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Obama & Biden are part of the cause. I just heard that the shooter was one of 130 something people that were laid off. This was from a guy that just called in to a talkshow from one of the two towns where the shootings took place. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

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Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Look people here we are, we have got to protect ourselveshere. We got Lay offs goin on all over the place and its gonna get tragic real fast. We all know some one who is gettin laid off or gonna get laid off so here it is, we got to keep an eye on our fellow man and keep him from doin harm. times are gettin desprate. I'm laid off and I know how it feels, trust me it aint gettin no better/ __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

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45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Cleveland info here This guy killed his wife, sister-in-law, her 4 year old and 2 year old twins. Then killed himself when the SWAT team stormed the house. I think the crowd had the appropriate response. *"Several dozen people lined up behind yellow police tape across the street from the home and cheered as a sheet-covered stretcher was removed from the house about an hour later."* I have never understood why cowards feel the need to kill their family in these situations. I understand being depressed, but this always baffles me. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

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bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. You know the "libs" are blaming the guns, not the lay offs/politicians. It would actually take "reasoning skills" to understand the root of the problem.

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GMFWoodchuck Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,369	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Politicians and layoffs have nothing to do with this. The man was a nutjob. None of us (I hope anyway) would ever consider doing this to our own family no matter how dismal the situation is. It is a shame that he wasn't "found" before hand and put into a nuthouse.

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hkruss Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mobile, Al. Posts: 1,092	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Maybe, just maybe, if one of those victims had been armed this idiot could have been taken out before the body count increased. I see it as one more reason for people to carry and be proficient with firearms. May God help the poor families of those left behind.

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obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. I guess a person who ignores the law against murder would be stopped in his tracks by a gun control law. On what planet? __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

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dge479 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haskell NJ Posts: 618	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. With or with out the gun, these people could go out and kill. The gun was his weapon of choice. He could have rented a van and made a fertilizer bomb. Oh wait, thats been done. __________________ Proud GOA and NRA member. Old Mopars and Guns, About as good as it gets. Guns Dont Kill, Socialized Healthcare does

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islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: nd now Obama and Biden have their reason. Millions of people have been violently killed prior to the invention of the firearm. They act as if, by banning firearms, no one will be murdered. __________________

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millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,435	Re: And now Obama and Biden have their reason. Hmmmm...Fifty Million have been killed post that invention, as well. Most in the 20th Century. Part of this "problem" is "internet overload". Thanks to speedy communications of the most trivial of incidents, they take on an immediacy all out of proportion to their real impact on society. And those with an "agenda" are quick to seize upon this "immediacy" - IOW, "If it bleeds it leads" - is what rules the day. Yes I feel sorry for those family members targeted, just as I feel sorry for the well-like guy that tried, (fatally), to use his pickup truck to prevent further carnage. But I also have to ask, "what would have been the result if some of these folks were armed ? ". The perp wouldn't have had a "shooting gallery". That his was a "suicide mission" is evident. And we"re seeing more reports of this sort of thing of late. Why ? I suspect an "anti-gun agenda". I can't think of any way to prevent this sort of thing, anymore than a lot of professionals at federal, state and local levels, can. By all reports this guy could have joined the FBI, he was so "clean"......So how can any gun-restrictive law prevent these sorts of tragedies ? Only way I can deduce is to remove each and every firearm from private possession. But, then, what's to stop someone from "rolling his own" ? Making effecive firearms is relatively easy. Full autos are by far easier than selective fire. And limitations on bolt guns, ( easier by far), are limited only by the recoil the shooter is willing to absorb......... All it take is some basic machine tooling......Or are we going to investigate/prosecute the tens of thosands of machinests extant in America ? >MW