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I did not see this anywhere else on the forum. I do not see a copywrite statement anywhere but I did see a share line. Here it is for those of you following this. IMO, a problem similar to this could become a problem for any of us with just one malfunction.
oldogy Rehearing in 'broken gun' conviction refused Path open for appeal to Supreme Court -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: June 02, 2009 9:48 pm Eastern © 2009 WorldNetDaily A terse two-sentence statement from the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has rejected a request for a rehearing in a case that defense lawyers say stemmed from a broken rifle that was loaned out and then malfunctioned. The ruling from the court today came in the case involving David Olofson, who was sentenced to 30-months in prison for "transferring" a machinegun, even though the weapon in question was described by defense weapons experts as a rifle that misfired. The decision from judges Dan Manion, Michael Kanne and Virginia Kendall said: "On consideration of the petition for rehearing en banc filed by defendant-appellant, no judge in active service has requested a vote on the petition for rehearing en banc, and all judges on the original panel have voted to deny rehearing. The petition is therefore DENIED." (Story continues below) Defense lawyers didn't immediately announce whether they would continue the fight. But WND reported earlier when a panel on the appellate bench rejected Olofson's appeal. The panel found what a federal agent did during a testing procedure to result in "automatic" fire from an AR-15 has no bearing on Olofson's conviction. The ruling had affirmed the trial judge's decision that the Wisconsin man sent to prison was guilty, no matter the reason that the semi-automatic rifle he loaned to a prospective buyer unleashed several bursts of multiple rounds and then jammed. His defense team had explained the case is about nothing more than a malfunctioning gun. But according to judges Manion, Kanne and Kendall of the 7th Circuit, the weapon is a machinegun, and government information about the tests that determined that are not pertinent. Constitutional lawyer Herb Titus, who argued at the appellate level on behalf of Olofson, said the government's case was simple: "Olofson's malfunctioning semi-automatic rifle functioned as a machinegun because it fired more than one shot at the single pull of a trigger." However, Titus contended the government's position is contrary to fact, established law and precedent. The government even, in Olofson's case, applied a definition "contrary to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives own definition in a guide to law enforcement," Titus had argued. Under this government definition, regardless of the reason, a gun is a machinegun if more than one bullet is fired with a single pull of the trigger. That could apply to grandpa's double-barreled as well as the local police sidearm, if it malfunctions similarly, he said. The normally accepted definition of a machine gun is a weapon that will fire repeatedly until the trigger is released or the ammunition exhausts. But in Olofson's case, the trigger was pulled, the first tests showed no "automatic" action. Then the government reported a change in the type of ammunition used and the rifle loosed off several shots and jammed. "By this time, the weapon had been in the hands of the ATF for four months. What caused the functional change in the weapon to fire as it had not done before is unknown, although the ATF agent did acknowledge that the change in the outcome from the October test resulted from a change to 'softer primer' ammunition," the appellate documents said. But the court ruling said neither documentation of the procedures used by the ATF to test the AR-15 nor correspondence between the ATF and the maker about the ability of the AR-15 to fire automatically were needed to reach a guilty verdict. "Regarding the first non-disclosed item – the ATF's internal procedures for test-firing AR-15 rifles – Olofson says he wanted that information because '[f]ailure to follow those procedures by changing the type of ammunition in the second test could demonstrate that the tests had been manipulated to arrive at a reversal of the results of the first test,'" the court said. "We do not see how that information could have exculpated Olofson; section 5845(b) does not require compliance with ATF test-fire procedures in order for a weapon to qualify as a machinegun, nor must the weapon fire any particular grade of ammunition or in the prohibited fashion during the first test-fire. "The government’s expert admitted that the gun fired automatically more than one round with a single function of the trigger without manual reloading in the second test with civilian grade rounds, but jammed in the first test with military grade rounds. Even if the second test was inconsistent with ATF procedures, that fact would not undermine confidence in the outcome of the trial," the court said. "With respect to his request for the ATF's correspondence with the manufacturer of his AR-15 concerning the use of M-16 parts in early AR-15 rifles, the defendant contends that evidence was exculpatory because it was relevant to his knowledge of whether or not his AR-15 was a machinegun. The district court denied Olofson's request on the first day of trial. At the sentencing hearing, the court revisited the issue; the court inspected a document in camera, stated that it was not exculpatory, and placed it under seal. We subsequently ordered that document to be unsealed," the appellate judges wrote. "That evidence is a 1983 letter from the ATF to the manufacturer of the AR-15 in which the ATF advised the company that the installation of certain M-16 parts in AR-15 receivers may permit the weapon to fire automatically even though an automatic sear is not present," the court ruled. "It has no bearing on Olofson’s knowledge of whether his AR-15 was a machinegun." Olofson also argued documents relating to the ATF's registry procedures were needed "because they could have been used to refute the government expert's testimony that the M-16 parts in Olofson's AR-15 made it a machinegun." WND reported earlier when the Gun Owners of America launched a campaign to help support Olofson's family. Olofson, of Berlin, Wis., surrendered to federal authorities last July to begin his 30-month prison term. "A gun that malfunctions is not a machine gun," Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America said that the time. "What the [federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] has done in the Olofson case has set a precedent that could make any of the millions of Americans that own semi-automatic firearms suddenly the owner [of] an unregistered machine gun at the moment the gun malfunctions." ATF officials have declined to speak with WND on the record. "It didn't matter the rifle in question had not been intentionally modified for select fire, or that it did not have an M16 bolt carrier … that it did not show any signs of machining or drilling, or that that model had even been recalled a few years back," said a commentary in Guns Magazine on the case. "It didn't matter the government had repeatedly failed to replicate automatic fire until they replaced the ammunition with a softer primer type. It didn't even matter that the prosecution admitted it was not important to prove the gun would do it again if the test were conducted today," the magazine said. "What mattered was the government's position that none of the above was relevant because '[T]here's no indication it makes any difference under the statute. If you pull the trigger once and it fires more than one round, no matter what the cause it's a machine gun.' "No matter what the cause." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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This case stands alone as proof that there is no justice for the coman man in this country.
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What a damn shame for sure. This is a very piss poor example of our justice system in action.
Rather, this is a great day for the liberal justice system. Speaking of the 7th, weren't they the ones that said you don't have a right to protect yourself?
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This is just a case of BATFE trying to make an example out of someone so they can justify their funding. They just make up the laws as they go along. BATFE is nothing but a tax collection agency that has vastly overblown delusions of their own importance.
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Small wonder why gun owners spit every time they have cause to mention BATFE !!
While "revenoors" aren't universally liked, the modern ilk seems to go out of its way to create public animosity. The Olafson case is yet another iteration of the endemic malfeasance pervading BATFE. Don't get the results you want ? Then change the "test conditions" until you do..... Disregard those "minor inconveniences" like maintaining evidentiary validity. Or perjuring yourself to "prove the point".... >MW Last edited by millwright; 06-08-2009 at 07:00 PM.. |
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![]() Been a while I've heard that term. Funny story about the predecesor to the BATFE, one of my grandmother's uncles would never tie his shoes. She asked why one time and he told her. Seems that during Prohibition, this uncle had himself a still out in the woods making moonshine. Well, one day the revenuers got after him. As he was running his shoe came untied. He eventually tripped on a tree root and the revenuer grabbed his shoe which then came off as it was untied and he was able to get away. After that, he never tied his shoes. I never met the uncle (well, he'd be my great-great-great uncle) as he was dead before I was born.
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