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Old 04-24-2009, 05:04 PM   #26
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I think this guy did the right thing in unloading some rounds near the car but not close enough to possibly hit him. I know this would really be hard not to blow his head off, but I don't want to put myself behind bars for shooting some turd for taking a car. In Minnesota you would have gotten in trouble for even shooting near him, but I still think you did the right thing.
Is it really this bad in MN? I suppose I have an advantage being female, I can get away with defending myself if I ever get into a situation, I think.
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:07 PM   #27
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The .22 is a deceiving round and I think underestimated. As a child growing up on a farm and even in later years my grandfather would kill a 400 to 500 pound beef every year for food. He used an old .22 bolt action with .22 short ammunition. The shot was between the eyes and the kill was immediate. I never saw him fail once.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:59 PM   #28
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Let's not get too confused here, guys. Putting a gun up to an animals skull is vastly different than shooting it at a distance of even three feet. When the muzzle is up very close to the skull, the still-expanding gasses of the powder follow the bullet into the wound, so the gasses do even more damage. This is why even a blank round will kill at very close ranges.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:45 PM   #29
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Let's not get too confused here, guys. Putting a gun up to an animals skull is vastly different than shooting it at a distance of even three feet. When the muzzle is up very close to the skull, the still-expanding gasses of the powder follow the bullet into the wound, so the gasses do even more damage. This is why even a blank round will kill at very close ranges.
Correct. As in the case of Brandon Lee, "the Crow." TJ
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:02 PM   #30
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ive been shot with a .22..above the knee,femeral aurtery and vien blown..pain is like a hot poker..i could have bleed to death in 3 mins..15 days hospital and 7 i.c.u.bout lost my leg..its never been the same.. need more contact me ,pm..mike
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:19 AM   #31
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ive been shot with a .22..above the knee,femeral aurtery and vien blown..pain is like a hot poker..i could have bleed to death in 3 mins..15 days hospital and 7 i.c.u.bout lost my leg..its never been the same.. need more contact me ,pm..mike
Did you have pain when it happened or later? I had a snub nose .357 go off in my hand while trying to unload it after a misfire, I don't believe i was hit by any of the bullet, the the unburned powder and gases finished burning between my first 2 fingers. It was kind of a slow motion of everything being fine to a lot of flesh melting away. The reason I asked, was that with that scenerio I felt no pain whatsoever until about 45 minutes later at the ER. My index finger was loose enough it dangled passed my thumb knuckle. Nothing an ass graft and some stiches couldn't fix. Oh yeh, there was some morphine in there too.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:11 AM   #32
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ive been shot with a .22..above the knee,femeral aurtery and vien blown..pain is like a hot poker..i could have bleed to death in 3 mins..15 days hospital and 7 i.c.u.bout lost my leg..its never been the same.. need more contact me ,pm..mike

Don't know about others, but, I'd be interested in some details of this incident. Not to be gruesome or anything like that, but, I enjoy learning from those who have been there and done that. It's a good source of knowledge.
Thus far, thankfully, I've managed to avoid bodily stopping any errant flying Lead.
(Knocking on wood...)

OH! And BTW, I'm glad to see you came through it. Taking out major arteries usually means lights-out on a permanent basis. Good for you!
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:52 PM   #33
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President Reagan was shot with a 22 as indicated above. So was James Brady. For which we are forever threatened with the Brady bill compliments of his wife Sarah.

I read somewhere that more people are killed in this country with 22 than any other caliber.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:21 PM   #34
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...For which we are forever threatened with the Brady bill compliments of his wife Sarah...
I guess you could then say that the .22 is the most dangerous of all.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:55 PM   #35
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'Pop' was just telling me yesterday of a sad story of when he was a boy and his cousin and a friend went targeting with a .22 and the friend shot his cousin while he was resetting the targets.
The cousin was bent over, the shot hit him in his buttock and went right up his body killing him instantly.
He teared when he was telling the story. It was quite sad
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:08 AM   #36
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More animals are killed each year with the 22LR than any three calibers combined.
They are incredibly deadly and used far more than we might imagine.
Raised on a working cattle ranch I was taught where to shoot our beef cattle when it was time to butcher for the families on the ranch. I never had to shoot one twice and the shot with 22LR standard ammo was the only thing used and it caused them to literally drop right in their tracks.
I personally killed a 5 point bull elk in 85 at about 40 yards in heavy timber while working it for my dad and another older guy to help them get their elk.
I don't think it ever knew I was in there with it and it fell so fast it had fallen straight down on all four legs. I hit it in the indent behind the ear and it was immediate drop.
Remember the 223 is the same bullet at about 15 grains more in weight and 1500 fps more in velocity and we all have seen what they will do when they cut meat.

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Old 05-22-2009, 11:00 AM   #37
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Was picking up a .22 derringer at my local shop, and of course a ‘Bubba’ had to come over and put his 2¢ in during the transaction:
Bubba: “Hell! I wuddon mess wif a 22! Be luk gittin stung by a wasp!”
Gunsmith: “Well, do you actually like being stung by a wasp?”
Bubba: “Uh . . . . . . . . . . no.” (Slouches away)
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Old 05-22-2009, 08:52 PM   #38
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I had an uncle that took out more dear with a .22 single shot Winchester, (the one were you pull the pin back to fire), then anything else. I have an old .20 caliber Sheridan air rifle that has a couple under its belt. Of course were talking 10 to 15 feet, but still...
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:20 PM   #39
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can you use a .22lr revolver for hog shots?

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Exactly. I've seen some mighty big hogs dispatched with a 22 short to the head. I can smell hot cracklins rendering just thinking about it.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:35 PM   #40
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brandon lee was killed due to a dummy round which bullet dislodged from the casing and got stuck in the rifling of the barrel and when they loaded the gun with blanks the bullet was still lodged in the barrel , when they shouted action and the bg started firing blanks , the bullet shot out the barrel and hit lee in the abdomen, he later died in surgery.
the dummy round were emptied from any powder and primers to give the effect of using live ammo.

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Old 06-17-2009, 08:40 PM   #41
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have you ever shot beef with a .22lr revolver?

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More animals are killed each year with the 22LR than any three calibers combined.
They are incredibly deadly and used far more than we might imagine.
Raised on a working cattle ranch I was taught where to shoot our beef cattle when it was time to butcher for the families on the ranch. I never had to shoot one twice and the shot with 22LR standard ammo was the only thing used and it caused them to literally drop right in their tracks.
I personally killed a 5 point bull elk in 85 at about 40 yards in heavy timber while working it for my dad and another older guy to help them get their elk.
I don't think it ever knew I was in there with it and it fell so fast it had fallen straight down on all four legs. I hit it in the indent behind the ear and it was immediate drop.
Remember the 223 is the same bullet at about 15 grains more in weight and 1500 fps more in velocity and we all have seen what they will do when they cut meat.

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Old 06-18-2009, 11:54 AM   #42
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At the Box of Truth Web site, the 22 went through 4-1" boards and bounced off of the 5th. I'm thicker than 4-1" boards, but not as hard. The 22, just keeps bouncing around, damaging organs and does not exit, usually. Don't want to be shot with one.
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:25 PM   #43
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said this before but worth repeating . the 22 ( except for time of war) is responsible for killing more than any other cailber. it was also the caliber of choice for a mid-eastern sercurity agency......
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:54 PM   #44
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Have not verified, but have read in several reports that the guard at DC Museum was killed with a .22 cal rifle.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:42 PM   #45
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My neighbor had a childhood friend playing around with 22 shorts on the creek bed, ended up shot in the head dead. Round was not in a gun. 2 weeks ago an 92 year old man missing his wife shot himself in the head, back home now doing fine, go figure.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:21 PM   #46
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I guess the point is that, though the .22 is not going to make a huge entrance or exit wound, these little guys are lethal. Now, I wouldn't want to try and hold off guys with black rifles, but some idiot coming down my hallway unannounced and uninvited, is going to catch 5 or 6 of these in the body mass or head. I believe he would not continue coming down my way. TJ
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:36 PM   #47
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I guess the point is that, though the .22 is not going to make a huge entrance or exit wound, these little guys are lethal. Now, I wouldn't want to try and hold off guys with black rifles, but some idiot coming down my hallway unannounced and uninvited, is going to catch 5 or 6 of these in the body mass or head. I believe he would not continue coming down my way. TJ
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:39 PM   #48
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A friend was telling me of a Police training video where a cop shot the bad guy in the chest 3 times with a .38 or a 9mm and the bad guy lived, but the bad guy shot the cop through the side of his bulletproof vest with a .22 and killed the cop.
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:12 AM   #49
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Just remember, getting shot by ANY caliber gun sucks. It sucks worse than getting stabbed. Worse than getting hit with a club. Or with brass knuckles. Or, even by *most* martial artists. And, all these do suck a lot. I've had several happen to me. (Never got shot.)
Any of these things can kill you. It's all about where it happens.
.22 LR still kills more people in America per year than any other caliber bullet. Why? 'Cause everybody has one.
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