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Old 03-13-2009, 05:22 PM   #26
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Shades of the 19th century !! Where's Zarchary Taylor when we need his expertise ?

Seriously, we've faced this problem before. The answer then, is the answer now. Armed incursions by Mexican millitants - regardless of affiliation or credentials - needs to be met with lethal force. Doesn't matter a tinker's damn who's doing it. If the drug lords/cartels are buying time hiring Mexican military then death is the wages of sin. No reason not notify the Mexican Government we will prosecute these incidents with all the military powers at our command . >MW
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:47 PM   #27
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Is it possible that the powers that be don't WANT to close our borders or stop the trouble? Could it be part of the plan to allow/cause the downfall of our nation that enables a different kind of rule?

I may be way off base, and I hope I am...but when supposedly educated people (our leaders...work with me here!) have all the facts presented to them about a valid problem, and they do nothing significant about it, something else is going on...
Yep...it is called politics. Pass the ball to someone else, blame the other party, deny involvement...Change we can all believe in my @ss. Same ol, same ol...
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:50 PM   #28
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If we put a 10 foot high wall on the border and another one 1000 meters back and some jersey barriers in between for fun and allowed armed citizens to shoot on sight between the two walls with a $100 bounty problem solved. Anyone who makes the 1000 meters alive gets citizenship the same as the Cubans who make it on their own power. I bet we have a quick drop in illegals. I know what I would be doing for a living.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:25 PM   #29
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If the Government's plan was to stop this, it would have been stopped long ago. It is clearly not the government's agenda. Think it through. McCain sounds the same as Obysmal with only a few nuances of difference.

A serious problem like this border is so obvious that it can't be mis-understood. It can only be spun or ignored.

The object with those in power now is not to stop the incursions but rather encourage them. If this were not so, the greatest military power in all of history would have no problem closing down the boarder. This boarder could be shut down like the slamming of a door if the word were given.

The questions should not be why; by now, with the liberal agenda at hand and the slide of the right towards center left should be obvious. This is part of a grand plan by those in power.

Maybe not all but by those who count.

Boarder incursions have been going on for far to long and under the noses of to many administrations for it not to be sanctioned.

Not about the drugs, though, it is a nice side benefit for those acronyms profiting by it. Not about the Illegals either. It is about the New World Order. The One World.

Pure fantasy, yes I know.

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Old 06-26-2009, 10:02 AM   #30
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The courts continue to turn the bad guys loose but the Federal Prosecutors will jail any LEO who even uses a firearm to defend himself. This couldn't happen without Congressional approval. We keep hearing about Soros and Acorn, but how much drug money keeps the likes of Kenedy, Reed, Pelosi etc, in office? Thats where the big bucks are.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:13 AM   #31
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“The Tucson sector is a real problem, Mr. Chairman, and this is an incredible fact to wrap up on,” Culberson said. “If you are arrested in the Tucson sector, crossing into the United States illegally, carrying less than 500 pounds of marijuana, you have a 99.6 percent chance of never being prosecuted and never go to jail for more than a few hours, which is a source of great frustration to your border agents, isn’t it chief?”
Really!? Has anyone here even seen how much a pound of grass is? Now imagine 500 times that and not going to jail. Cops around here get all excited if they bust someone with half an ounce. Someone with a couple pounds is front page news how do they let people get away with that much.

Think of it this way on average 1/8 of an ounce is $30 around here. That's $240 an ounce which is $3840 a pound. So roughly $30 of pot is going to be a $100 dollar fine but $1,920,000 is just a few hours in jail. WTF
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:37 AM   #32
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First you have to understand that every illegal now in this country is a Democratic vote once an amnesty bill makes it through Congress. Just wondering what effect it would have on illegal border crossings if a 500 yard no man's land were established on our side of the border and made into a free fire zone? Once the word got out, I suspect the crossings would slow down to a crawl. As mentioned here several times, the problem is drugs and not guns but we have too many celebrities and so called pillars of society who like to frequently snort a line, freebase a little crack or smoke a joint. So instead of blaming this overwhelming appetite for drugs blame the legal gun owers instead. Another typical liberal bait and switch operation.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:42 PM   #33
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Is it possible that the powers that be don't WANT to close our borders or stop the trouble? Could it be part of the plan to allow/cause the downfall of our nation that enables a different kind of rule?
You hit the nail on the little flat spot.

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Maybe we WANT Mexico to ask for our aid, we insert troops, quell the violence, and then we annex Mexico for their own "protection." There will be no more "illegals," plenty of cheap labor, more taxes generated, and they have OIL! Sounds like a plan. Just musing out loud. TJ

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