Is nothing new?

TranterUK · 06-28-2009, 01:10 PM

Imagine my surprise when I am reading about the storming of Beziers in 1209 by Crusaders. Many thousands inside were put to the sword and when asked by a Bishop how the Crusaders would know Catholics from the others, the leader replied 'Ceadite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eir' which translates to 'kill them all, God will recognise his own'.

Sounds familiar?

USMCSpeedy · 06-28-2009, 02:33 PM

I guess you just don't need to change what still works.

Pistolenschutze · 06-28-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TranterUK

Imagine my surprise when I am reading about the storming of Beziers in 1209 by Crusaders. Many thousands inside were put to the sword and when asked by a Bishop how the Crusaders would know Catholics from the others, the leader replied 'Ceadite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eir' which translates to 'kill them all, God will recognise his own'.

Sounds familiar?

Well, it was the French who did that, Tranter. They've always been a bit unstable.

fmacsin1 · 06-28-2009, 03:06 PM

Geez, wasn't just about everyone in the Crusades killed, executed or tortured to death? They certainly didn't take too much time out for much else!

armedandsafe · 06-28-2009, 04:03 PM

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Well, it was the French who did that, Tranter. They've always been a bit unstable.

Appaerntly no one there offered them a white flag.

Pops

Pistolenschutze · 06-28-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fmacsin1

Geez, wasn't just about everyone in the Crusades killed, executed or tortured to death? They certainly didn't take too much time out for much else!

There were certainly many cases of mass murder associated both with the "Crusades," as in the nine or so formal ones executed against the Muslims in the Middle East, as well as other "crusades" sanctioned by the Church against various schismatic and pagan religious groups in Europe, Slavs, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and sometimes just political enemies of the popes. The incident Tranter refers to above occurred a crusade against the Cathars (a schismatic Christian group) in France. Just one among many examples was the Christian capture of Jerusalem in 1099 during the First Crusade. After taking the city, the Crusaders killed virtually every man, woman, and child, some 40,000 in all.

06-28-2009, 01:10 PM	#1
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06-28-2009, 03:06 PM	#4
fmacsin1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Moosehead Lake, Maine Posts: 433	Re: Is nothing new? Geez, wasn't just about everyone in the Crusades killed, executed or tortured to death? They certainly didn't take too much time out for much else!