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Cameras keep track of all cars entering Medina
Cameras installed at Medina intersections monitor every vehicle coming into the city. The cameras capture all license-plate numbers, in a crime-prevention measure that one council member says "outweighs concern over privacy." By Sonia Krishnan Seattle Times staff reporter City signs have a unique way of greeting people. In Issaquah, for instance, motorists are told they're entering "a special place where people care." For years, Bothell invited people to stay "for a day or a lifetime." In Medina, a new sign bears this warning: "You Are Entering a 24 Hour Video Surveillance Area." Cameras have recently been installed at intersections to monitor every vehicle coming into the city. Under the "automatic license plate recognition" project, once a car enters Medina, a camera captures its license-plate number. Within seconds, the number is run through a database. If a hit comes up for a felony — say, the vehicle was reported stolen or is being driven by a homicide suspect — the information is transmitted instantaneously to police, who can "leap into action," said Police Chief Jeffrey Chen. "These cameras provide us with intelligence," Chen said. "It gets us in front of criminals. I don't like to be on a level playing field with criminals." He declined to give the number and location of all the cameras. Medina — a city of 3,100 with an average household income of $222,000 — had discussed the idea for years as a way to discourage crime, city officials said. Last year, there were 11 burglaries, Chen said. "Some people think [that number of burglaries] is tolerable," he said. "But even one crime is intolerable." All captured information is stored for 60 days — even if nothing negative turns up, he said. That allows police to mine data if a crime occurs later, Chen said. Doug Honig, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington, said such a system smacks of privacy violations. "Government shouldn't be keeping records of people's comings and goings when they haven't done anything wrong," he said. "By actions like this, we're moving closer and closer to a surveillance society." Medina City Councilmember Lucius Biglow said crime prevention "outweighs concern over privacy." "Privacy is considerably less nowadays than it was, say, 50 years ago," he said. "I think most of us are pretty well-documented by the federal government ... simply because of the Internet and credit cards." It's no secret cameras are everywhere — in stores, streets, parks and intersections where police want to cite drivers for running red lights. A 2005 city survey showed that nearly a half of Medina's residents agreed with the camera installation. In 2007, the City Council unanimously approved moving forward. (A cost for the project was not immediately available Tuesday from city officials.) The city looked to nearby Hunts Point as an example. The peninsula-shaped residential community just north of Medina has been using a video-camera setup to record a continuous loop of car traffic in and out of town for more than three years, town administrator Jack McKenzie said. The town of about 500 residents hasn't had a single break-in since the cameras were installed. "I recommend it highly," McKenzie said. He said visitors to Hunts Point can't miss the video equipment: "It's 12 feet tall and covered with cameras," he said of the installation, which is located at the traffic circle at the entrance to the community. There are eight cameras in all; pairs of cameras point in four directions. No residents have ever complained about it, he said. McKenzie said the town has used it for evidence in a couple of cases. In one case, he said, a woman driving a Mercedes ran into a mailbox pagoda, damaging the mailboxes and her car. Medina police — who provide Hunts Point with police protection — reviewed the tape and picked out the undamaged Mercedes going into town, and the damaged car later coming out. Medina City Council members say the cameras aren't about preserving a gated-community atmosphere. "We're not elitist at all," Councilmember Robert Rudolph said. "There is a mix of people in Medina of all economic strata. What we're doing here is protecting our citizenry." Sonia Krishnan: 206-515-5546 or skrishnan@seattletimes.com. Staff reporter Katherine Long and news researcher Gene Balk contributed to this report.
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Everybody in Medina needs to buy one of these for every vehicle that they have.
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![]() "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<< |
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And here we see the beginning of the entry of the totalitarian mindset of "crime prevention." The totalitarian gov't always says the state can violate peoples' privacy to prevent crime because an innocent person has nothing to hide or fear and a criminal has no right to privacy anyhow.
![]() I love how the chief of police says that the cameras can catch a car that "a murderer is driving." How can they tell from looking at someone if they're a criminal or not? ![]() And so dies our protections under the 4th Amendment ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Here's the original article
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/59291652.html "The system isn't going to be misused," Chen said. Right.... ![]()
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That's a bunch of carp right there. Now the Texas criminals may stay here.
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Big Brother is watching YOU! .
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Once you leave your home, there is NO privacy anymore.
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There is no privacy in your home... Patriot Act did away with that.
Here is a big SCREW YOU! to the liberal goverment and their sheeple.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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In Orlando we have sections of town (huge drug areas) that are under 24 hour surveillance. Moreover, many towns in FL are putting up camera at intersections to make revenue - over $100 a ticket in Orlando. These traffic cameras are being challenged right now in court.
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Big Brother is watching you.
Man, ole George was a prophet.
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A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper KCCO Last edited by 45nut; 09-17-2009 at 08:05 AM.. |
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