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Old 08-28-2009, 05:39 PM   #1
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5 lbs of gator and 5 lbs of frog legs.
Gonna fry some legs tonite, and take a shot at jambalaya with the gator this weekend.

I know there's recipes on the net, but would like some input from the pros here.

Beings I'm about as far away from this type of cooking one can get, I doubt I'll be finding a cajun mix at the store. I'd be better off making one up.
What spices do yall use? I've got sausage and shrimp to go with the gator.

Any tips you would like to share would be most welcome.

Same for the frog. I've read prepping the legs from none, to soaking in saltwater, soaking in milk, citrus squirts w/crushed ice, etc...

Thanks for the help.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:58 PM   #2
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I dunno bout eating that stuff, although I'd try it if prepared by someone who knows how.
Filet Mignon tonite, gonna try it on an applewood plank.
I love applewood chips for smoking filet, we'll see how the plank works.
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Here is two ways I like gator done.

Alligator Etouffee (Etoufee)
Cook Time: 1 hour, 0 minutes
Ingredients
2 medium onions chopped
2 cloves garlic chopped
4 stalks celery chopped
1 can tomatoes or Rotel Brand tomato
salt black pepper and cayenne
1 pound alligator meat cut in thin strips
2 sticks butter
1/2 cup green onions
1 bell pepper chopped


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Saute' onions, garlic and celery (bell pepper optional) in the butter until soft. Add the tomatoes and simmer for twenty minutes in a covered iron pot.
Add the alligator meat and cook over a low fire until tender about one hour. If the gravy thickens too much while cooking or at the end add water. Add the onion tops in the last 10 minutes of cooking.
Serve over rice but especially rice with jasmine scented rice, a fresh tomato and lettuce salad and a thick slice of French bread for mopping your plate clean.
I like it this way because it is faster but the Sauce Piquant is better
Sauce Piquant = jambalaya

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Turtle or Alligator Sauce Piquant
Makes: 8 servings
Cook Time: 3 hours,
Ingredients
1 pound turtle meat or alligator meat
2 large onions chopped
2 bell pepper chopped
6 stalks celery chopped
2 jalapenos chopped without seeds
1 small cans tomato paste
2 1/2 can of water
2 tbsp sugar (cuts the acidity of the tomatoes)
1/2 tbsp basil leaves
2 bay leaves
cooking oil
salt , red pepper, black pepper
garlic and onion powder
Vinegar for marinating
1 can Rotel Brand Tomato
2 tbsp roux
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A Dutch oven or heavy cast iron pot with cover works best for this dish. Season the turtle meat with salt and red pepper. Marinate the turtle meat overnight in enough vinegar to cover the meat. When ready to cook, take the meat out of the marinade and let it drain 10 to 15 minutes. Do not rinse the meat. Season with salt, red pepper, black pepper, onion powder and garlic powder. Pour about 1/2 oil and start heating. Put in enough pieces to cover the bottom of the pot. Brown the meat on all sides. Continue until all are done taking out the meat as they brown. After all the meat is browned, add the onions, bell pepper, celery, jalapenos and cook until the onions are soft. Add the tomato paste, Rotel tomatoes and 2 small cans of water. If you want to use the roux add at this time. Cook on medium fire until the meat turns a lighter brown.

Add 2 to 3 cans of water, sugar, turtle meat, the basil and the bay leaves. Bring to a boil; then reduce the heat to a simmer for 2 to 2 1/2 hours (I like to cover the pot) and stir occasionally to prevent scorching and sticking. Serve over rice with a fresh green salad and tomatoes along with a crisp garlic or plain French bread.

If using gator you can use vinegar or this marinade - Sprinkle meat with garlic powder and Cajun seasoning. Place in a covered dish. Add onions, Worcestershire sauce, soy sauce and lemon juice to meat and let marinate overnight in refrigerator. Remove meat from marinade and fry in vegetable oil in a skillet until meat is brown. Follow the rest of the steps.
I never marinade mine but this was with the recipe when I got it so I am sending on to you Have cooked it this way four time and all I will say is
I NEED MORE GATOR
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:35 PM   #4
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I'd just chicken fry the frog legs. they don't need any soaking or anything.

As for anything Jambalaya or cajun, it's all about the roux.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:49 AM   #5
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Well...ya can't beat that meat.

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Old 08-29-2009, 01:12 AM   #6
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We should have a Recipe section on the forum for game meats etc On the frogs legs I ate them when I lived in Brooklyn NY at Nathan"s in Coney Island years ago, they bread them in egg & flour & then in flavored bread crumbs & deep or pan fry them If you don"t have a deep fryer, I could eat a couple of dozens of them right now along with a nice cold brewski. 358 Win I love your alligator recipe in the Etoffee when I make the shrimp one ( as alligators are hard to find up here in the NY mountains ) HA HA I add a little about a 1/4 of a cup of SAVORY& JAMES CREAM SHERRY in my shrimp Etoffee as per Chef EMERIL LAGASSE recipe from the food network, & What a difference in taste it adds to the dish real cajun stuff I wish that I could find some alligator meat on line to try your recipe, never had gator, Did have Rattlesnake when I was stationed in Texas while in the Army ( It does taste like chicken ) none up here either just copperheads snakes, don"t think that they would taste like a rattler though.

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Old 08-29-2009, 01:30 AM   #7
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We should have a Recipe section on the forum for game meats etc On the frogs legs I ate them when I lived in Brooklyn NY at Nathan"s in Coney Island years ago, they bread them in egg & flour & then in flavored bread crumbs & deep or pan fry them If you don"t have a deep fryer, I could eat a couple of dozens of them right now along with a nice cold brewski.
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:44 AM   #8
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Id love to try Gator - What does it taste like ? You don't see many about down here in NZ, id have to pinch one from the Zoo and don't think they would be too happy

I have tried Kangaroo though and that was good - a bit like steak

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I just made up a 3 gallon pot of Jambalaya yesterday, took it to work today and it was gone in less than 30 min. Feed at least 15 guys and there wasn't even so much as a grain of rice left in the pot. You just can't go wrong with Cajun cooking, 3# of andouille, 2# shrimp and 2# grilled chicken........ them's GOOD EATS !!!!

Sure wish i had some gator to throw in there; excellent lean meat.

Far as frog legs go, a good soak in buttermilk followed by a dunk in some cornmeal seasoned with some Tony C's and deep fryed; can't go wrong!
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Bobitis, these recipes are from my hometown. Trust me, it don't get any more Cajun than this.

http://www.cajun-recipesJambalaya Recipes.com/index.htm

Also here is John Folse's site. In my opinon he's one of the best, if not the best Cajun chefs around.

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So.... how was dinner??
your lucky your about 8 hrs away,
ya might have had company
to share in the experience.
on the gator meat anyhow.

frog legs we batter and fry like chicken.

my dinner was bonless ribeye, imperial cat mushrooms, refried beans and carrots

Did ya get any of the rain yesterday?
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Gator is fine, but the frogs legs are heaven on a plate. Haven't had them in a long time, though they used to be sold in the supermarket all the time. Fry them unbreaded and gently, and with limited sesonings - the flavor is delecate and easily overpowered. A tiny squeeze of lemon doesn't hurt. Enjoy!!
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So.... how was dinner??
your lucky your about 8 hrs away,
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to share in the experience.
on the gator meat anyhow.

frog legs we batter and fry like chicken.

my dinner was bonless ribeye, imperial cat mushrooms, refried beans and carrots

Did ya get any of the rain yesterday?
Got the rain last night. It was QUITE welcome.

Being somewhat avant garde, I soaked the legs int a mix of water, salt, garlic, lime juice, and Mtn Dew (about an hr), then threw em in a bag of pork shake-n-bake. I patted them dry first and let them sit for 30 minutes or so, thinking the mix would bring some of the moisture out. Boy DID it.
I was left with thick gobs of gooey yuck that didn't stick to anything.
I removed the yuck and lightly salted and peppered the legs. Tossed em in a bag with brown flour for ten minutes or so, then into the hot oil.

Heavenly! As I'm a simple man, the sides were tater-tots and brussel sprouts.

I'm puting off the jambalaya as I can't see making 2-3 gallons for just me.

Think I'll fry the gator and add it to a red pasta sauce with mixed bell peppers, onion, and portabella mushrooms. Pour it over some mini pene with garlic buttered sourdough for sopping.

Whatcha think?
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Got the rain last night. It was QUITE welcome.

Being somewhat avant garde, I soaked the legs int a mix of water, salt, garlic, lime juice, and Mtn Dew (about an hr), then threw em in a bag of pork shake-n-bake. I patted them dry first and let them sit for 30 minutes or so, thinking the mix would bring some of the moisture out. Boy DID it.
I was left with thick gobs of gooey yuck that didn't stick to anything.
I removed the yuck and lightly salted and peppered the legs. Tossed em in a bag with brown flour for ten minutes or so, then into the hot oil.

Heavenly! As I'm a simple man, the sides were tater-tots and brussel sprouts.

I'm puting off the jambalaya as I can't see making 2-3 gallons for just me.

Think I'll fry the gator and add it to a red pasta sauce with mixed bell peppers, onion, and portabella mushrooms. Pour it over some mini pene with garlic buttered sourdough for sopping.

Whatcha think?
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Spent the last couple hours in the kitchen.
Slice and dice, simmer and stir.

I gotta be honest here.

The frog came from China and was wonderful. As much as I expected.
The gator (and the frog) were bought from from CajunGrocer.
While I knew I wasn't going to get 'steaks' from them, I expected somewhat more than what I got.

For a hundred bucks, I "assumed" I'd get more than the trimmings from the bones. Not so.

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Aint never had me no frog legs, but gator is quite delicious... The other other other white meat. Tastes alot like chicken, really...
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For a hundred bucks, I "assumed" I'd get more than the trimmings from the bones. Not so.

Buyer beware.
Hey Bob: How much meat in lbs. did you get for $100? Did that price include shipping? Would you do it differently, now that you know what to expect? I love frog legs & was thinking about buying some, but threw on the brakes when you said "Buyer beware".

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If it is a piece of gator tail then slice it, rub jerk spice on it and barbecue it. It is very good. I lived in Florida for a few years and ate a lot of gator tail that way.
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Hey Bob, Ill be at the convention center next friday, tupperware me a bowl
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I'd just chicken fry the frog legs. they don't need any soaking or anything.

As for anything Jambalaya or cajun, it's all about the roux.
Incorrect Sir, Jambalaya does not have any roux. Jambalaya is a rice based dish with vegetables and meat.

Servings: 10


This recipe by Chef John Folse,

Ingredients:

1/4 cup vegetable shortening or bacon drippings
3 pounds pork, cubed substitute your gator
2 pounds andouille sausage, sliced*
2 cups onions, chopped
2 cups celery, chopped
1 cup bell pepper, chopped
1/2 cup garlic, diced
6 cups beef or chicken stock
2 cans diced tomatos
1 cup green onions, sliced
1/2 cup parsley, chopped
salt and cayenne pepper
Louisiana hot sauce
5 cups long-grained rice

*or your favorite smoked sausage

Instructions:

Prep Time: 1 Hour

In a 7-quart cast iron Dutch oven, heat shortening or bacon drippings over medium-high heat. Saute' cubed gator until dark brown on all sides and some pieces are sticking to the bottom of the pot, approximately 30 minutes. This is very important as the brown color of jambalaya is derived from the color of the meat. Add smoked sausage and stir fry an additional 10-15 minutes.

Tilt the pot to one side and ladle out all oil, except for one large cooking spoon. Add onions, celery, bell pepper and garlic. Continue cooking until all vegetables are well caramelized. However, be very careful, as vegetables will tend to scorch.

Add beef or chicken stock and tomatos, bring to a rolling boil and reduce heat to simmer. Cook ingredients in stock approximately 15 minutes for flavors to develop. Add green onions and parsley. Season to taste using salt, pepper and Louisiana Gold hot sauce.

Chef Folse suggests that you slightly over-season because the rice tends to require a little extra seasoning. Add rice, reduce heat to very low, cover and cook 30-45 minutes, stirring at 15-minute intervals. Do not uncover except to stir.
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Any of you folks out there ever heard of beef. It's very popular
in some places. You ought to try it. Beats the hell out of dead
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I prefer Buff to beef, its better for you.
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