Owens breaks 4 promises in 1st 24 hours. oh joy.

[Lori Mick]

http://www.gouverneurtimes.com/index...ews&Itemid=175


GOUVERNEUR, NY - Congressman-elect Bill Owens was sworn in at noon today.

Owens indicated in a press release that he was now in favor of the bill in direct contrast to his earlier position during his campaign.

According to Politico.com, Mr. Owens assured voters that he felt the public option had no place in the health care reform bill. Contrary to that position, Mr. Owens now indicates that he intends to vote in favor of the bill even though it now contains a public option.

Mr. Owens also indicated during his campaign that he was firmly opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, taxing health care benefits, and increased taxes on the middle class in any way as you can see clearly in the screenshot below, taken directly from Mr. Owens' campaign website.



The House Health reform bill contains sections that cut Medicare benefits, tax existing health care benefits, and increases taxes on the middle class, yet Mr. Owens stated today that he will now vote in favor of those things contrary to what he had promised the voters of NY's 23rd Congressional District that he would vote against.

Mr. Owens indicated in his press release today that "This legislation will reform the insurance industry and provide increased access to affordable healthcare without taxing healthcare benefits, cutting Medicare benefits or raising taxes on the middle class, and that is exactly the direction we need to go."

When The Gouverneur Times attempted to contact Mr. Owens to clarify this information, we received no direct response to our phone or email inquiries. Both FactCheck.org and the Congressional Budget Office agree that HR 3962 contains potentially hundreds of billions of dollars in planned cuts to Medicare, yet Mr. Owens indicates that he supports this legislation and says that it does not cut Medicare benefits. Either Mr. Owens has been snowed or the public is about to be.

HR 3962 also includes a range of various taxes on middle-class families as well as language to repeal tax relief already in place. Has Congressman Owens blindly followed Ms. Pelosi's rhetoric in believing that the end to a tax cut is not the same thing as an increase in taxes or is he hedging his bet with very carefully chosen words?

HR 3962 now also contains language that allows illegal immigrants to be covered under the legislation. When The Gouverneur Times attempted to contact Mr. Owens for clarification of this language, we received no response other than the press release heretofore mentioned. Specifically, we asked if illegal immigrants would be forced to purchase healthcare insurance as citizens will be and whether or not they would be forced to do so at standard rates or if they would qualify for the public option subsidy.

The Associated Press said this morning that: "House leaders said that, in keeping with the Hispanic Caucus' demands, there was not likely to be any prohibition added to the House bill against illegal immigrants shopping in the exchange."

In a speech made to Congress a short time ago, President Obama had stated that the bill would not contain support for illegal immigrants - a statement for which he was called a "liar" by Rep. Joe Wilson. Rep. Wilson was severely chastised for his comment at the time though it would now seem to be true.

The mixed-up mess that was the 23rd Congressional District Special Election was a close race between Democrat Bill Owens and Conservative Doug Hoffman. Many feel that it was unlikely Mr. Owens would have won those crucial few thousand votes if the voting public was aware of his intent with regard to the Health Care bill. The majority of residents in this district do not support the Health Reform bill as it is now written and many feel like they've become victims of a fraud perpetrated by their chosen candidate.

Breaking campaign promises is not unusual for politicians... it's a cliche. This is almost certainly a record though. Mr. Owens broke no less than 4 promises in his first 24 hours in office.

[Bobitis]

Wait.... Don't tell me.
He's a Democrat?

[red14]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Wait.... Don't tell me.
He's a Democrat?

Doesn't matter, he's a liar. Isn't this whole episode like 'bait and switch'???

How can we vote for people when they do this?

[millwright]

And you are "surprised" ? Why ?? >MW

[dge479]

So a politition lied, What is this country coming to?

[Trouble 45-70]

I despise lying politicians. Especially the quibblers who parse their words to cover their lies. Recall petition time.

[Terry_P]

I would have been surprised if he had kept his word. If you voted for him you deserve what you got.

[glocknut]

Democrat=Liar

mike
gn

[bcj1755]

Politician = liar.

[red14]

Originally Posted by bcj1755

Politician = liar.

I'll agree to this^^^

Not this >>>>[quote=glocknut] "Democrat=Liar."

I'm a Democrat!

[glocknut]

[quote=red14;534876]I'll agree to this^^^

Not this >>>>

Originally Posted by glocknut

"Democrat=Liar."

I'm a Democrat!

That's not something i would admit publicly....

mike
gn

[henry77]

What else did you expect from a DUMMYCRAP!!!!

[Big ugly]

Its not what side of the fence your on it the a$$holes that gets voted in. Think about this, they will campain one set of promisses yet turn around and do another. "READ MY LIPS, I JUST SCREWED YOUR EYEBALLS OUT, AND YOU VOTED ME IN HA HHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!!"

[red14]

[quote=glocknut;534933]

Originally Posted by red14

I'll agree to this^^^
Not this >>>>
That's not something i would admit publicly....
mike
gn

Why, are you leading a mob to my house? I vote for the man (or woman), not the party.

It wasn't just Democrats that elected Obamalamadingdong, I didn't. I'm a Vet, and worked from 1969 til I was disabled in 06. Climb down off your White Charger, Lancelot.

[ponycar17]

NY voters are obviously not as smart as I had hoped, as a whole. I was sure that Scozzafava's dropping out meant that the Conservative Party candidate had the election in the bag. The fact that this idiot got elected shows me that the district as a whole must be nearly brain dead. If so, they better hope there's a provision to treat them in the health care bill.

[obxned]

Sorry, but that's not even close to a new record.

[Big ugly]

[quote=red14;535010]

Originally Posted by glocknut

Why, are you leading a mob to my house? I vote for the man (or woman), not the party.

It wasn't just Democrats that elected Obamalamadingdong, I didn't. I'm a Vet, and worked from 1969 til I was disabled in 06. Climb down off your White Charger, Lancelot.

SIC em Red

[Old Guy]

If everyone has not figured out by now that a politician will say anything to get elected and then bow down to the "party" thugs when they get to Washington, then they need to get their head out of a dark, smelly place. A Republican is more apt to think outside the box, but don't be fooled. The Republican machine can be just as tough to deal with than the Democrats. The difference is that the Democratic Party was hijacked many years ago by liberal progressives!!! Why do you think that the South has swung Republican? The Democrats have moved away from their centrist base to the elite leftist position.

Old Guy

[UncleFudd]

UNTIL we all wake up and realize we are BY GOD AMERICANS first and party loyalists someplace way down the line we will continue to make and remake and perpetuate these same mistakes.
I don't give a spit in the river what party someone claims to belong. I am going to watch and wait and study everything they have to say especially when they believe they are not on tape or camera.
I want to know the real person running for office.
Look at his family, friends, bank-roll, church, and his off-time activities, (who he hangs with).
Who does he/she owe and who is bankrolling for his/her favors.
Some of these things are the way it is and will be for the foreseeable future when our elected officials get to the congress and senate so it will take time for us to get good people in place.
But ther is no excuse for allowing this to happen and everyone had more questions about him than answers so why did they give him the benefit of doubt.
As said previously, you get what ya brung and everyone now will pay the price for stupidity and ignorance, but it very well may be the time to begin to recall and to do it with a vengence to let these people now and for the future to know and understand that we are no longer going to let them do this kind of thing.
You lie, you die (so to speak) Polotically please!
Are there enough of you concerned and willing constituents out there to make it happen? Again, I doubt it, as it is so much easier to sit on your ass and cry than to get out and work to make the changes that will affect all of your lives and those of your children.

I recently asked the question about what can be done to those such as Arlen Spectre and it brought about some healthy debate. But this is a new and shiny example of that exact same situation carried out in a different manner. But the reslut is the same to you and I. We vote for the person who says they will do what we are expecting and immediately upon confirmation, they switch.
Get the bum out of office right now, while the iron is hot and set the notice for those who will follow, (IF YOU BE LYIN WE BE CLEANIN HOUSE0.

So sorry but certainly not unexpected when you have the Soros machine throwing money around to support as well as to threaten anyone and everyone who does not play by his rules. Obama does and all ther rest of the congressmen/women who want to succed in office.
They actually believe he is the only one they have to worry about and at the moment they are absolutely correct.
Will we get up out of our easy chairs and work finally to make the necessary changes to save this nation?

Nope!!

Our ox has not been gored yet to the extent we will rally in the numbers and with the concentration it will take to geterdone.

When, then?
Maybe when the effects of the health care and cap in trade and some of the other horrible programs designed to completely destroy the free enterprise system and kill small businesses arounf the nation begin to be felt will we finally get involved. MAYBE!!!

UF

[Marlin T]

Uncle Fudd, you are sounding just like Samuel Adams.

In part;

There are other things which, I humbly conceive, require the most serious Consideration of the Legislative. We have heretofore complaind, and I think justly, that bad Men have too often found their Way into places of publick Trust. "Nothing is more essential to the Establishment of Manners in a State, than that all Persons employd in Places of Power and Trust by Men of exemplary Characters. The Publick cannot be too curious concerning the Character of publick Men."

This is from
Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 2
Samuel Adams to James Warren
Philada Nove 4th 1775

[Claude Clay]

i vote not for people. rather against the worst of the pack

I mean, does it really matter which theif has his hand in your pocket??

[Vladimir]

Here is the thing. Republicans are bad sometimes too, but I have never seen a democrat that was worth my vote. The few that looked like maybe they were, screwed it up. So how can any self respecting individual call themselves a democrat? I understand both desires of individuals who want to proudly claim they are republican still, and the desire of individuals who want to proudly claim they are independent... what I cannot understand is anyone wanting to admit they are a democrat...

Originally Posted by Claude Clay

i vote not for people. rather against the worst of the pack

I mean, does it really matter which theif has his hand in your pocket??

Yes, one hand is all covered in ****.

[momo]

[quote=red14;534876]I'll agree to this^^^

Not this >>>>

Originally Posted by glocknut

"Democrat=Liar."

I'm a Democrat!

It's ok Red I still like you!

[Claude Clay]

what I cannot understand is anyone wanting to admit they are a democrat...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Claude Clay
i vote not for people. rather against the worst of the pack

I mean, does it really matter which thief has his hand in your pocket??

Yes, one hand is all covered in ****.

....all their hands are covered in deceit

Vladimir--i am have a bit of trouble reconciling how you think i admited to being a democrat.
----->they are the

worst of the pack

[ToolsForPros]

Politicians lie, no matter their fake facade party. It's their ridiculous paychecks on the line.