DHS to hire 1000

[RunningOnMT]

Rush said on his program today that Janet Napolitano announced the department of homeland security would be hiring 1000 cyber security specialists to "protect our vital internet from attack.

Umm..does anybody besides me think they will just be monitoring sites and possibly hacking accounts in order to gather information about people?

We already have the NSA which is more than capable of handling our internet security concerns.

[bcj1755]

I guess we'll be seeing more trolls pretty soon

DHS will need the extra people when Barry declares a "cyberemergency" and clamps down on the internet.

[Bobitis]

I've never felt threatened by the internet. I'm just one of how many millions of users?

Why does the government want to step in for my sake?

Could it be privacy issue?
Personal tracking perhaps?
Squash freedom of speech?

Silly me. It's in MY best interests.

Just like bird/swine/avain flu vaccinizations.

Is that anything like man/bear/pig speak?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfGmf8L3-z0

[Marlin T]

Here are a couple more threads about cybersecurity.

Friday April 17, 2009
The Cybersecurity Debate
The Obama administration is about to unveil its cybersecurity review, and the turf battles are brewing. What is seldom mentioned in the debate is that this is perhaps one of the most important issues the Obama administration will face.

The cypersecurity issue is an important part of the broader counter-intelligence effort, an effort that was woefully inadequate in past administrations, and one that is costing our nation dearly. As noted in the article above, the Chinese have stolen every single advanced weapons system design we have made in recent years, through human intel operations and electronically.

As the Wall Street Journal recently reported, our entire electrical grid has been mapped for foreign powers. Not just for the fun of it, and not to steal vital state secrets that will benefit them right away.

Rather, it is an embedded program that could remain passive for years, but could be activated in a second if to disrupt the entire electrical supply should they feel the need to. It is not a targeted effort at some parts of the country, but rather an ambitious effort to map the entire grid. Talk about thinking big!

We are only beginning to understand how penetrated our systems are, and the need to push back are figure out what the other guys are doing, why, and how to disrupt it.

The Russians spend millions of dollars hacking into our national secrets, and the vast majority of the cyper security breaches in come from Russia. We are vulnerable enough that people in Asia and elsewhere hack our national secrets for fun rather than profit.

I am not a technofile, nor do I know needs to be in the technological world to fix these gaping vulnerabilities. What I do know is that there are plenty of smart people who do, and the longer we delay, the higher the cost.

Yet we muddle on. The FBI has wasted tens (hundreds??) of millions of dollars trying to create secure systems, without much success. Three or four years ago, while the Chinese were happily stealing our missile designs, the FBI's Washington Field Office was still using dial up modems and were largely unfamiliar with the use of Google. I know this through painful personal experience.

This technological imbalance, where some states attack others in the cyber world, is a form of asymetric warfare. The weaker force (militarily) uses the weapons it has (computers, viruses, etc.) to cripple the larger and stronger opponent.

This all sounds like science fiction, but one of the things the Obama team has brought with it is a broader understanding of how the new technological world works and how it is used.

The narrower debate on cypersecurity must be placed in the context of overall counterintelligence, and both must be strengthened and revamped considerably if we want any state secrets to be secret at all.
POSTED BY DOUGLAS FARAH
http://www.douglasfarah.com/article/...ity-debate.com



http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=59553

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=59325

I don't trust Obomba in the least bit, especially after he called me a terrorist. But we need to keep secret those things that are supposed to be secret .
Obomba isn't helping in this area with him declassifying everything that he has, but that is a different subject.

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

Here are a couple more threads about cybersecurity.

Friday April 17, 2009
The Cybersecurity Debate
The Obama administration is about to unveil its cybersecurity review, and the turf battles are brewing. What is seldom mentioned in the debate is that this is perhaps one of the most important issues the Obama administration will face.

The cypersecurity issue is an important part of the broader counter-intelligence effort, an effort that was woefully inadequate in past administrations, and one that is costing our nation dearly. As noted in the article above, the Chinese have stolen every single advanced weapons system design we have made in recent years, through human intel operations and electronically.

As the Wall Street Journal recently reported, our entire electrical grid has been mapped for foreign powers. Not just for the fun of it, and not to steal vital state secrets that will benefit them right away.

Rather, it is an embedded program that could remain passive for years, but could be activated in a second if to disrupt the entire electrical supply should they feel the need to. It is not a targeted effort at some parts of the country, but rather an ambitious effort to map the entire grid. Talk about thinking big!

We are only beginning to understand how penetrated our systems are, and the need to push back are figure out what the other guys are doing, why, and how to disrupt it.

The Russians spend millions of dollars hacking into our national secrets, and the vast majority of the cyper security breaches in come from Russia. We are vulnerable enough that people in Asia and elsewhere hack our national secrets for fun rather than profit.

I am not a technofile, nor do I know needs to be in the technological world to fix these gaping vulnerabilities. What I do know is that there are plenty of smart people who do, and the longer we delay, the higher the cost.

Yet we muddle on. The FBI has wasted tens (hundreds??) of millions of dollars trying to create secure systems, without much success. Three or four years ago, while the Chinese were happily stealing our missile designs, the FBI's Washington Field Office was still using dial up modems and were largely unfamiliar with the use of Google. I know this through painful personal experience.

This technological imbalance, where some states attack others in the cyber world, is a form of asymetric warfare. The weaker force (militarily) uses the weapons it has (computers, viruses, etc.) to cripple the larger and stronger opponent.

This all sounds like science fiction, but one of the things the Obama team has brought with it is a broader understanding of how the new technological world works and how it is used.

The narrower debate on cypersecurity must be placed in the context of overall counterintelligence, and both must be strengthened and revamped considerably if we want any state secrets to be secret at all.
POSTED BY DOUGLAS FARAH
http://www.douglasfarah.com/article/...ity-debate.com



http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=59553

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=59325

I don't trust Obomba in the least bit, especially after he called me a terrorist. But we need to keep secret those things that are supposed to be secret .
Obomba isn't helping in this area with him declassifying everything that he has, but that is a different subject.

There is a threat there, but we all know that Obambabababa doesn't want control of the internet for our protection, he wants the control to stamp out free speech and to quiet his critics who dare to speak the truth about him and his facism/socialism.

[Doc1911]

There is a threat there, but we all know that Obambabababa doesn't want control of the internet for our protection, he wants the control to stamp out free speech and to quiet his critics who dare to speak the truth about him and his facism/socialism.

+1

[Rocket J Squirl]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Could it be privacy issue?
Personal tracking perhaps?

Its already here, everything you do online is tracked

[PunjabiPillbox]

Originally Posted by Rocket J Squirl

Its already here, everything you do online is tracked

Makes me all warm and cozy knowing they're keeping me safe from my own heinous, violent human tendencies... I hope they will see me as a fit and proper little plebian citizen...

[topper]

I'm so safe now, i don't know what to do. Do i really need more protection from myself?



Anything can be overdone, even from the government!

[GMFWoodchuck]

First of all, why the F*&K is critical weapons design info on computers linked up to the net? Every single person who has this type of info on a computer that is also connected online one way or another should be shot or hung for treason. This information can be physically handed around with an Ipod or some other portable hard drive. And put onto isolated networks. End of story.

And we all know why Obababa is hiring these cyber folks. To track us. The real viable threats to a totalitarian government.

[GMFWoodchuck]

As far as the rest of the stuff on the internet, including The Firearms Forum (no offense to you all), it is not at all vital. We did just fine with out it at all just little over a decade ago. My life is no better or worse with the internet. It is exactly the same. It is just another something for me to read. The only real difference is that I don't read magazines as much as I used to. In fact I did not even have a computer, a tv, or a landline (I only had a cell phone) up until about a year ago when my wife insisted that she have this stuff. (We got married a few months before that.) Now we have 2 tvs, 3 phones, and 2 computers. How we use all this I do not know. This whole information age business is nothing more than a big drain on my checking account. Sure, I've made friends online, but before this I would have just went down and made friends at the local shooting club (or whatever the hobby is) where we moved to.

[Southern Boy]

I agree woodchuck. Did fine without it. i do not use the internet for banking etc.. I never use correct personal info .. I dont even pay wireless bill with correct info or name. i do have a second laptop for all info, pictures, important files and the like, I do not connect this machine to the web and transfer files to it via,flashdrives etc.. Having said all that, let them bring it on. The real problem is another erosion of our liberties and freedom. i also agree National security info should never be, (and probably is not) put on the web for any reason, and such a breach of secirity should be dealt with promptly.

[Haligan]

Hi (waving!)

Sit down stay a while. Join in the conversation. Mabe you DHS might like it here.

[Archie]

Folks, I share this with some trepidation, but I work for DHS.

If any of you read my posts, you'll see I'm here because I'm a shooter and reloader and 2nd Amendment proponent.

I've worked for the U. S. Government for over thirty years now; as a Marine and a federal lawman of a couple types. That doesn't make me 'special' (maybe short bus special) but I do know a bit about how the government works.

No matter what the president directs, someone in the ranks will sabotage the plan. Some by intent, some by incompetence. Don't underestimate government incompetence. One thousand more cyber specialists could beef up hacker defenses, but cannot keep track of the tens or hundreds of millions of U. S. residents who are on line. The numbers are just too big. Yes, they can 'mine' for specific words and combinations of words, but even that is a rather daunting process. This site is the same as a public meeting in a public place. If anyone says anything about committing a crime or planning an illegal activity, it is the same as making that statement at an open town hall meeting, or announcing your intent on a public bus. Nothing sneaky or underhanded about it.

Should you - we - all be concerned about potential inroads on privacy and freedom of speech? Certainly! Keep watch and be aware of laws and 'regulations' intending to limit free speech; but don't be paranoid about it.

Knowing the law enforcement inside, I don't think the government could do it on any large scale, even if they wanted to. Spy on everyone, that is. There are a lot of employees of the federal government and local law enforcement who are really on the side of liberty and freedom.

[mcwoods2]

It must be hell to live in fear....

[RunningOnMT]

Archie, Thank you for your many years of service. I understand your point but you see many of us just don't trust Obama and his underlings. I don't think it would be that hard to monitor communications of a select number of people determined to be a threat. Of course they aren't monitoring everybody but they could develop a system of screening and targetting individuals.

I want our country safe from terrorist attacks as much as anyone, but I personally feel the current administration is more concerned with political enemies than they are with terrorists.

You wont find a more patriotic bunch than we have right here but many of us say without hesitation that we would fight to defend our constitution and our rights. If that means taking up arms against the government then it will be because government has overstepped it's bounds.

Now I know that statement would be interpreted inflamatory to some and considered a threat to many of the socialists running the country. In light of Napolitanos memo to law enforcement agencies regarding potential threats I have to assume those who feel as I do are under some level of scrutiny.

By the way, how do you like your boss?


Semper Fi

[armedandsafe]

McWoods2, Fear of what we see happening to our country and trying to prevent the impending catastrophe is so much better than willful ignorance and denial.

Pops

[PunjabiPillbox]

Originally Posted by armedandsafe

McWoods2, Fear of what we see happening to our country and trying to prevent the impending catastrophe is so much better than willful ignorance and denial.

Pops

Amen Pops, If ignorance is bliss, then I' rather live a cursed life I guess.

[obxned]

I don't need 1000 new government agents to protect me on line, and I bet none of you feel a pressing need for this either. So just who will they be protecting?

It's just a shame that the Arab on Pennsylvania Avenue isn't worried about protecting our borders instead.