Buckmark Target Sights - again! - The Firearms Forum

swank · 11-06-2009, 02:04 PM

I'm one of those shooters who owns a 7 1/4" Buckmark Bullseye Target with the factory black sights . . useless to me with my old eyes. Had an Ultra Dot but had to sell it . . now I back to the factory sights.

My question is . . does anyone know of either a white outline or 3-dot sight set for this gun? I'm not looking for nights sights or high viz sights, just white outline or 3-dot to replace the factory black set. Can't seem to find any after a google search . . can anyone help me ?

LDBennett · 11-06-2009, 07:35 PM

swank:

Fix your eyes not the target sights on the gun. How? Well....

A couple of things help us oldster with old eyes see the front sight clearly. One is to use a pair of reading classes from the drug store so chosen to give you a sharp front sight. Try some on in the store and hold your finger out at arms reach. Try different power spectacles until your finger is noticeably sharp while looking across the room. You may want to compromise and get you finger only a little bit sharper than the background but the experts say the front sight should be the object in focus when shooting pistols.

The other is a aperture device that snaps or suction cups onto your shooting glassed. When you peer through the small hole the sights and the target appear dimmer but both are noticeably sharper. If your eyes are not too bad all three planes will be sharp: the rear sight, the front sight , and the target.

I use both approaches and have for 20 years (an early case of bad eyes, I guess). I tend to use the glass lens approach on rifles and the aperture device with handguns. For the lens approach I have a device that comes with several different lenses that snaps onto my regular bifocal shooting glasses that Olympic shooters use.

When I'm plinking in the canyon with the grandkids I use my progressive lens'ed regular glasses and move my head vertically to get the front sight sharp at the expense of everything else. It works for plinking with handguns.

LDBennett

gazzmann · 11-06-2009, 11:56 PM

I use a dab of white out (liquid paper) correction fluid on my front sights.If it rubs off there is plenty in the bottle to replace it.
It's cheap too.

Big ugly · 11-07-2009, 02:37 AM

same here, White out works wonders. I have even white outed the bead sights on my BPS.

swank · 11-07-2009, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the replys . . I too am a senior citizen and have been wearing progressive lenses (no line bifocals) for years . . tilt head up to see the sights . . tilt head down to see the target . . works ok but the black sights are still hard to see for me, hence my desire for white outline or 3-dot sights. I too have tried the white-out but it's just not the permanent solution that I'm looking for. I'm thinking now of installing some fiber optic sights from Williams Gun Sight . . sold by Brownells (link below). Looks like they may do the trick. Thanks again.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3...rk__Adjustable

JUNKKING · 11-07-2009, 05:51 PM

I seen these sights on another thread I don't remember if it was here or another forum. I bookmarked them because I thought they were cool and cheap enough too.

http://www.nitesiters.com/

LDBennett · 11-08-2009, 07:34 AM

swank:

My problem with the fiber rod sights is that they are just not accurate compared to a good set of target sights. Matching three balls in the sight path is just not accurate enough for me. Same goes for the three white dot sights. The white outline sights have the same problem. Nothing matches putting the square front post in the square cutout of the rear sight for accurate shooting especially when there is only a narrow slit of light coming in around the sides of the front sight blade and the rear notch.

The aperture approach works the best with those target sights (but does not work well with progressive glasses and does work well with bifocals in the far field top part of those glasses). The other thing that helps a lot is blackening the sights with one of the carbide burning smokers. The smoke black is totally none reflective and carbon black. Against a white target the sight picture is amazing. Another help is to make your own targets on the computer with bullseyes X rings that are just the right size to see at your shooting range of interest. If the bull is small and the rest of the target white, it makes seeing the front sight blade in the notch a whole lot easier.

We older folks need all the help we can get!!! Figure out what works for you and it may not be the same as what works for me. But do try using the sights you now have with the aperture, better targets, and maybe even the sight blackening before you go to the trouble of different sights that are less accurate. Also with the progressives don't keep tilting you head back and forth to see both the target and the front blade sharply but find a compromise position for your head that emphasizes sharpness to the front blade with the target slightly fuzzy and leave you head in that position for firing. That's the way the experts say to sight (?).

LDBennett

11-06-2009, 02:04 PM	#1
swank Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	Buckmark Target Sights - again! I'm one of those shooters who owns a 7 1/4" Buckmark Bullseye Target with the factory black sights . . useless to me with my old eyes. Had an Ultra Dot but had to sell it . . now I back to the factory sights. My question is . . does anyone know of either a white outline or 3-dot sight set for this gun? I'm not looking for nights sights or high viz sights, just white outline or 3-dot to replace the factory black set. Can't seem to find any after a google search . . can anyone help me ? -->

11-06-2009, 07:35 PM	#2
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,754	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! swank: Fix your eyes not the target sights on the gun. How? Well.... A couple of things help us oldster with old eyes see the front sight clearly. One is to use a pair of reading classes from the drug store so chosen to give you a sharp front sight. Try some on in the store and hold your finger out at arms reach. Try different power spectacles until your finger is noticeably sharp while looking across the room. You may want to compromise and get you finger only a little bit sharper than the background but the experts say the front sight should be the object in focus when shooting pistols. The other is a aperture device that snaps or suction cups onto your shooting glassed. When you peer through the small hole the sights and the target appear dimmer but both are noticeably sharper. If your eyes are not too bad all three planes will be sharp: the rear sight, the front sight , and the target. I use both approaches and have for 20 years (an early case of bad eyes, I guess). I tend to use the glass lens approach on rifles and the aperture device with handguns. For the lens approach I have a device that comes with several different lenses that snaps onto my regular bifocal shooting glasses that Olympic shooters use. When I'm plinking in the canyon with the grandkids I use my progressive lens'ed regular glasses and move my head vertically to get the front sight sharp at the expense of everything else. It works for plinking with handguns. LDBennett

11-06-2009, 11:56 PM	#3
gazzmann V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: So. Fla. Posts: 147	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! I use a dab of white out (liquid paper) correction fluid on my front sights.If it rubs off there is plenty in the bottle to replace it. It's cheap too.

11-07-2009, 02:37 AM	#4
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! same here, White out works wonders. I have even white outed the bead sights on my BPS. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

11-07-2009, 02:32 PM	#5
swank Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! Thanks for the replys . . I too am a senior citizen and have been wearing progressive lenses (no line bifocals) for years . . tilt head up to see the sights . . tilt head down to see the target . . works ok but the black sights are still hard to see for me, hence my desire for white outline or 3-dot sights. I too have tried the white-out but it's just not the permanent solution that I'm looking for. I'm thinking now of installing some fiber optic sights from Williams Gun Sight . . sold by Brownells (link below). Looks like they may do the trick. Thanks again. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3...rk__Adjustable Last edited by swank; 11-07-2009 at 02:33 PM..

11-07-2009, 05:51 PM	#6
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,817	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! I seen these sights on another thread I don't remember if it was here or another forum. I bookmarked them because I thought they were cool and cheap enough too. http://www.nitesiters.com/ __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

11-08-2009, 07:34 AM	#7
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,754	Re: Buckmark Target Sights - again! swank: My problem with the fiber rod sights is that they are just not accurate compared to a good set of target sights. Matching three balls in the sight path is just not accurate enough for me. Same goes for the three white dot sights. The white outline sights have the same problem. Nothing matches putting the square front post in the square cutout of the rear sight for accurate shooting especially when there is only a narrow slit of light coming in around the sides of the front sight blade and the rear notch. The aperture approach works the best with those target sights (but does not work well with progressive glasses and does work well with bifocals in the far field top part of those glasses). The other thing that helps a lot is blackening the sights with one of the carbide burning smokers. The smoke black is totally none reflective and carbon black. Against a white target the sight picture is amazing. Another help is to make your own targets on the computer with bullseyes X rings that are just the right size to see at your shooting range of interest. If the bull is small and the rest of the target white, it makes seeing the front sight blade in the notch a whole lot easier. We older folks need all the help we can get!!! Figure out what works for you and it may not be the same as what works for me. But do try using the sights you now have with the aperture, better targets, and maybe even the sight blackening before you go to the trouble of different sights that are less accurate. Also with the progressives don't keep tilting you head back and forth to see both the target and the front blade sharply but find a compromise position for your head that emphasizes sharpness to the front blade with the target slightly fuzzy and leave you head in that position for firing. That's the way the experts say to sight (?). LDBennett Last edited by LDBennett; 11-08-2009 at 07:37 AM..