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Old 11-08-2009, 01:22 AM   #51
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California just passed a law that limits handgun ammo purchases (I assume that includes 22 ammo?) to 50 rounds a month. It is to start in July 2010. It includes any ammo for which there is both a handgun and a rifle. I'll bet someone fights it in court as it is counter to self defense and home defense. You can not maintain your proficiency with a handgun only shooting 50 rounds a month. Add to that the liability of the state if someone can't buy ammo and gets hurt or killed by an intruder or a mugger. We are also looking forward to the micro marking of the firing pins at some point (??). CA sucks! Wish I were NOT here! Too many family ties keep me here. Darn.

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Good to know. I heard Febuary, not July. Gives me more time to stockpile. Was told by local dealer that 22 ammo was not being limited. Don't know if he is right or not. Ca does suck. Stuck here also, same reasons.
LD just wondering if your family came from Oaklahoma?
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:04 AM   #52
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My family is from Omaha Nebraska (and I was born there and came to CA at the age of 4).
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The original press stories said July 2010. The law states that if a caliber of ammo can fit in rifles and handguns then the limit of 50 per month applies. 22LR certainly fits that description.

Here is parts of the law AB962:

"This bill would require that commencing July 1, 2010, unless
specifically excluded, no person shall sell or transfer more than 50
rounds of handgun ammunition in any month unless he or she is
registered as a handgun ammunition vendor, as defined."

"This bill would, subject to exceptions, commencing July 1, 2010,
require certain ammunition vendors to obtain a thumbprint and other
information from ammunition purchasers, and would require submission
of that information to the Department of Justice, as specified. A
violation of these provisions would be a misdemeanor."


Handgun ammo is defined in CA penal Code Section 12323 and is referenced in the new law:

"(a) "Handgun ammunition" means ammunition principally for use in
pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed
upon the person, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 12001,
notwithstanding that the ammunition may also be used in some rifles."


That sure sounds like that includes 22LR ammo to me. This law and the one it modifies is for the control of gangs or so it was sold as such. Every gang banger in CA carries a concealable 22 pistol and that is suppose to be the target of this law and the one it modifies.

There is still confusion about the enactment date in my mind as the law being modified is not suppose to be enacted until Feb 2011, yet this section is to be enacted by July 2010 (???).

Note that this law and the one it modifies means every sale of ammo in CA is registered as to seller and buyer, with a thumb print, ID, and residency address. The government will now be watching you!

CALGUNS is supposedly challenging the law in court (??).

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Old 11-08-2009, 01:02 PM   #53
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Just curious. My last name is Bennett too. My Grandfathers family is from Oak. He moved out here after WW2.
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