Colt Pocket Positive - The Firearms Forum

Trainer · 01-17-2004, 08:48 PM

I would appreciate any information you could provide about this weapon..

Pistol is a Colt Pocket Positive cal. 32 Colt.
Lockwork seems solid
Serial # 47xxx
Very little finish remaining
Original hard rubber grips

Trainer · 01-17-2004, 08:53 PM

other side.

Smokin Guns · 01-17-2004, 09:47 PM

Welcome to TFF Trainer, I'll look around and see what I can find out!...

gamachinist · 01-17-2004, 10:33 PM

Dadgum,
That's the biggest pocket revolver I've ever seen.Did it belong to Paul Bunyon?
Seriously,it was made late in 1909,so it's no wonder most of the finish is gone.
This gun was introduced in 1905 to replace the New Pocket model.The main diffeerence is the lockwork that featured a "positive" lock for the firing mechinism.It was an early safety device to prevent the gun from firing unless the trigger was fully to the rear.
The model was discontinued in 1940.
I can't give you a value as my price guides are outdated,but the last blue book I have gives a price of $145.00 in 10% condition.
I hope this helps,Robert.

Trainer · 01-18-2004, 12:19 AM

Thank you very much. I appriciate your assistance.

JPrescott

Xracer · 01-18-2004, 08:03 AM

The 23rd Edition (2003) of the Blue Book still has it at $145 for a 10% gun.

gamachinist · 01-18-2004, 01:23 PM

My book is the 18th edition.I'll probably buy the next one that comes out.
It's surprising how "flat" prices have become for many guns.
Of course,the only things that affect prices are inflation and demand (or percieved demand from media hype or other factors like when Colt raises their retail prices to insane levels that no one pays anyway).
Remember the demand for S & W M29's after "Dirty Harry" came out?Dealers were having to pay the MSRP plus buy a lot of other S & W products (guns,holsters,ammo,cuffs,etc.)just to get one from the distributors.
How about Trans Am's after Smokey and the Bandit?(A buddy bought a silver one in '75.He wrecked it several times and resold it to the same dealer who also did the repair work for what he paid for it after the movie came out!)
Or the Datsun 240Z, Mazda Miata,and the Viper for the first year or so?
So what you need to do is find someone to praise whatever it is you have to sell a few times in the media and sit back and rake in the dough!
Wonder if Chevrolets copy of a Studebaker truck will have the same effect?
Robert.

merc · 02-01-2004, 06:45 AM

As Gamachinist mentioned, yours was made in 1909.
Pricing on these vary a lot depending on condition, how much the seller actually knows and what the buyer is willing to pay.
I bought one not long ago for 125 in very good shape.
If you paid under 200 bucks you did very well.
from 200 to 250---fair deal
over 250---tooo much

01-17-2004, 08:48 PM	#1
Trainer Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Texas Posts: 3	Colt Pocket Positive (large pics) I would appreciate any information you could provide about this weapon.. Pistol is a Colt Pocket Positive cal. 32 Colt. Lockwork seems solid Serial # 47xxx Very little finish remaining Original hard rubber grips Attached Images --> Last edited by Trainer; 01-17-2004 at 08:54 PM..

01-17-2004, 08:53 PM	#2
Trainer Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Texas Posts: 3	other side. Attached Images

01-17-2004, 09:47 PM	#3
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Welcome to TFF Trainer, I'll look around and see what I can find out!... __________________

02-01-2004, 06:45 AM	#8
merc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pelham, NH Posts: 309	As Gamachinist mentioned, yours was made in 1909. Pricing on these vary a lot depending on condition, how much the seller actually knows and what the buyer is willing to pay. I bought one not long ago for 125 in very good shape. If you paid under 200 bucks you did very well. from 200 to 250---fair deal over 250---tooo much __________________ Merc Living without Liberty is not Living

01-17-2004, 10:33 PM	#4
gamachinist V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Locust Grove GA Posts: 213	Dadgum, That's the biggest pocket revolver I've ever seen.Did it belong to Paul Bunyon? Seriously,it was made late in 1909,so it's no wonder most of the finish is gone. This gun was introduced in 1905 to replace the New Pocket model.The main diffeerence is the lockwork that featured a "positive" lock for the firing mechinism.It was an early safety device to prevent the gun from firing unless the trigger was fully to the rear. The model was discontinued in 1940. I can't give you a value as my price guides are outdated,but the last blue book I have gives a price of $145.00 in 10% condition. I hope this helps,Robert.

01-18-2004, 12:19 AM	#5
Trainer Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Texas Posts: 3	Thank you very much. I appriciate your assistance. JPrescott

01-18-2004, 08:03 AM	#6
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	The 23rd Edition (2003) of the Blue Book still has it at $145 for a 10% gun.

01-18-2004, 01:23 PM	#7
gamachinist V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Locust Grove GA Posts: 213	My book is the 18th edition.I'll probably buy the next one that comes out. It's surprising how "flat" prices have become for many guns. Of course,the only things that affect prices are inflation and demand (or percieved demand from media hype or other factors like when Colt raises their retail prices to insane levels that no one pays anyway). Remember the demand for S & W M29's after "Dirty Harry" came out?Dealers were having to pay the MSRP plus buy a lot of other S & W products (guns,holsters,ammo,cuffs,etc.)just to get one from the distributors. How about Trans Am's after Smokey and the Bandit?(A buddy bought a silver one in '75.He wrecked it several times and resold it to the same dealer who also did the repair work for what he paid for it after the movie came out!) Or the Datsun 240Z, Mazda Miata,and the Viper for the first year or so? So what you need to do is find someone to praise whatever it is you have to sell a few times in the media and sit back and rake in the dough! Wonder if Chevrolets copy of a Studebaker truck will have the same effect? Robert.